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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Armagh => Topic started by: mmbutts on Tuesday 16 March 10 15:13 GMT (UK)
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Looking for any information on this family in County Armagh.
My gggg grandparents James and Mary(no maiden)Furfey had a son(there could be more children - liked to know that), my ggg grandfather William b1788. William married Elizabeth McGee(like to find their marriage). Their children: James b 1825, Hugh b 1828, William b 1830 Isabella b 1833 Mary b 1836 Patrick b 1839.
On one census more family members are listed with James' family and I don't know how they fit into the family - could be cousins.
I do know that they came to US in 1845 and that Elizabeth(McGee) Furfey died on the voyage over here.
This information was obtained from census info and death info in the US. It could be wrong as far as who was born to who because I found more Furfey family that came to US, lived near James Furfey(b1825) and were even in his business with him(Mat Manufacturing)in Cambridge, MA and also started a Mat Manufacturing business in NY.
I'm trying to straighten out parents. Is there any birth and marriage records that someone would look at for me??
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Civil registration of births, deaths and Catholic marriages in Ireland started in 1864 (from 1845 for other marriages). For earlier dates you need to know the family's religion and where they lived (parish if not actual townland) to see if any church records survive for the period you need.
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Family was Catholic.
The only town info I have is Armagh.
I know nothing about city/town info in Ireland.'
In the states we have: city/town, county, state
I'm from: Revere, Suffolk, Massachusetts
What now?
Margaret
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Armagh is the name of a county as well as a town so you could be talking about a family living in Armagh city or anywhere in Co. Armagh.
A townland is the smallest land division in Ireland and would have been the 'address' used to identify families in all sorts of important records like census, church and valuations.
For pre-registration dates you need to search for you need to find a fairly exact location then see if any church records for that period do survive.
If you're in Revere you're not too far from Logan- last time I was there my plane from Halifax was last one allowed to land in fog before airport was closed!
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I did find some births(someplace on the internet)but couldn't look at because I wasn't a paid member.
I guess I'm out of luck - County Armagh is the only thing I have!!
Thanks for the help!
Margaret
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Sorry to bother again but....
'Playing' around on the internet I found:
'Freeholder's list' and found a bunch of Furfey's and 'Doneygreagh' - is that a town/city, parish??
Margaret
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Was it Freeholders List from PRONI website?
www.proni.gov.uk/index/search_the_archives/freeholders_records.htm
It's probably Donagreagh townland, Magheralin Parish, Lurgan Poor Law Union, Co. Armagh.
Griffith's Valuation (mid-1800s) lists the tenants of Donagreagh but no Furfeys there- and no Furfey's anywhere in Co. Armagh- however, there's a Turvey in Donagreagh (?).
www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearch
uite a few Furfeys listed in civil index-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=collectionDetails
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Yes it was from Proni site.
So does that mean they came from Donagreagh - which would be what - city/town?
or how you have it,
Donagreagh townland, Magheralin Parish, Lurgan Poor Law Union, County Armagh, Ireland
Could you explain!!!!what all that means
Margaret
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Finding people named Furfey in Freeholders' list does not mean they are the family you are looking for (even if you knew your Furfeys were from the same townland still doesn't connect yours to Freeholders list).
Forget U.S. geographical terms- town/city, county, state.
In Ireland it is townland, parish, county. I included the Poor Law Union as that correspods with the civil registration district (for births, deaths, marriages).
Counties are made up of parishes and parishes are made up of a group of townlands. If you are doing any research in Ireland these divisions become extremely important.
For further information:
http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/browse/records/land/townland.htm
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Townland
http://www.ancestryireland.com/database.php?filename=townlands
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Great!!
Thank you for ALL the information.
I did get your message and I responded(I hope I did it correctly) - won't let it happen again!!
Margaret
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Yes, thank you.
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I just thought of something else
If I wanted to see that area, Donagreagh townland, Magheralin Parish, Lurgan Poor Law Union, County Armagh, Ireland on a 'google' map, what would I put in for the search.
Just like to see the where I think the family came from.
Margaret
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The IGI shows the Furfey surname in Lurgan Armagh and Tartarghan Armagh which is
approx 14km west of Lurgan.
Today the name appears only in Lisburn Antrim which is approx 20km east of Lurgan.
Mike.
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Go to link for Griffith's Valuation I posted earlier-
www.askaboutireland.ie/griffith-valuation/index.xml?action=placeSearch
Search for 'Donagreagh' in 'Armagh'- when the result comes up click on 'map' on right side of page and then zoom in on area.
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You can search for free on the following website, details are on a fee basis.
http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/
Mike.
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You can search for free on the following website, details are on a fee basis.
http://ifhf.brsgenealogy.com/
Mike.
The site I posted is free and includes scans of original printed page and maps.
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Index is free but to look at records they charge you.
I was trying to figure out parents!
Thanks
Margaret
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Did you get anywhere with your Furfy (1800) spelling at PRONi freeholder records online. I have the Kinego Furfys Brownlows Derry near Lurgan Armagh if you think it might be them. The Magheralin Furpheys are living in Lurgan currently and the Catholic Church at Kilwarlin may help you with them.
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I didn't have any luck looking for Furfey records.
I'm awfully sorry but I have know idea what you mean by:
" I have the Kinego Furfys Brownlows Derry near Lurgan Armagh if you think it might be them. The Magheralin Furpheys are living in Lurgan currently and the Catholic Church at Kilwarlin may help you with them. "
The only thing I know about my Furfey's is that they come from County Armagh - I know nothing about Ireland. So if what you have might help me - please let me know!!
Thanks
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Did your William die in Cambridge Pt MASS in 1900?
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Sorry for not reading all of the posts in this thread before responding. There are two William Furfys in County Armagh on proni.gov.uk freeholder one at Kinego and the other refered to by previous contributors to this thread. The Kinego records are for the lives of William and James Furfy 1822 and I assumed rightly or wrongly that these are brothers. Kinnego as it is known now is a townland about a mile from Lurgan on the shores of the south east corner of Lough Neagh in the Census DED of Brownlows Derry County Armagh. These Furfy (furphy)s are in my tree I will check if there is an Elizabeth McGee (Magee) marriage. I have found your Williams children in Mass and New York and all were born in Lurgan Hugh possibly married Anna McGinnis on 2 Dec 1856 at Cambs, Mass. She was the daughter of John McGinnis, William an engineer died in Brooklyn on 9 Aug 1901, immigrated 1846 married 1860 Isabella died 20 Nov 1872 in Boston Mass and Mary died 16 Dec 1888 Boston Suffolk, Mass (Occupation) seamstress.Neither of these women married? I will check if these baptisms are in my St Peters Parish Furphy records which should prove or not that they are Kinnego Furpheys. My records are in work and I am at home but will get back to you in the next few days :)
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Thank you very much for getting back to me.
With the Furfey's that came to US - you have to watch out for names - Both brothers - James b 1824 Ireland and Hugh b Oct 1827 Ireland married an Ann. James married Ann McGuiness, Hugh married Anna Maginniss(sp) and both brothers ended up naming their children the same. Drove me crazy on Census.
James Furfey b 1824 is my gg grandfather, he died 1900 Cambridge, MA. His wife, my gg grandmother, was Ann McGuiness b 1825 Ireland, she died 1891 Cambridge, MA.
James's father was William Furfey b 1788 Ireland. He died 8/15/1854 Cambridge, MA. James's mother was Elizabeth McGee born Ireland died on voyage over here(found that out from her son's(Patrick) record at Tewksbury, MA State Hospital . William's father was James Furfey and his mother's first name was Mary. This info was from a death listing.
What I figured out was that William and Elizabeth Furfey had:
James b 1824 married ?, died 1900 Cambridge, MA, Hugh b 1827 married 1856 died 1898 Cambridge MA, William b 1829 married 1861 died 1901 NY, Isabella b 1833 never married died 1872, Mary b 1836 never married died 1888 and Patrick b 1839 married 1860 died 1910 . All children born in Ireland.
When I first found them on the 1850 Census for US there were other family members living with them. Cornelius, Richard and a Michael. Never found out how Cornelius was involved in the family - brother,, cousin or whatever. A woman did contact me and thought that Michael and James b 1824 were cousins. James opened up a Mat Manufacturing business in Cambridge, MA and Michael worked there and lived next door to him. There were also Furfey's that opened a Mat Manufacting plant in New York. This is what I was trying to figure out - who were cousins. Was William b 1788 an uncle to the Furfey's in NY. That is why I would love Ireland birth records.
I have more names and ,marriages and deaths if you would like them.
Margaret
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Can you give me some other surnames who were in the same house in the census forms, I think I saw a Homes or Holmes yesterday when I did a quick check. There is a John Furpfy in Edward St Lurgan with 7 children around 1850 who married a Martha Holmes (Homes) This might help with the other furphey forenames. A lot of Lurgan boys headed for Cambridge Point and Ontonagon because of the Copper Mines and the huge presence of local people. I will look at Furphey BMDs from St Peters and revert. My connection is Thomas Furfy 1835-1879 born Kinnego son of William and husband of Isabella Hart. Their daughter Mary married Teddy Livinstone and ended up in Ontonagon MI. I think there might be a connection so I am quite happy to spend some time on this - will keep you posted :)
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I was trying to attach sheets of my Furfey Family Tree that I created on Ancestry.com - and there are 14 attachments. Keep getting error that it is too big. Can you give me your email and I will send them that way.
Thanks for your help.
Margaret
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Hi Margaret,
I am the g niece of Michael Furfey who lived next door to James in Cambridgeport. James' parents and Michael's partents are not the same. On my g uncle Cornelius' naturalization papers, it listed Michael Furfey, witness to naturalization, as living at 43 Perry St. in New York in 1852. I wonder if the Furfey's all lived in the same neighborhood in New York. I have not been able to find the ship Michael, Cornelius (Neil) and Richard came came over in. I have even checked Philadelphia with no luck.
Will try to get your family tree from Ancestry.
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There was the Michael Furfey that lived next door to my gggrandfather James but there was also a Michael Furfey in NY that also opened a Mat Manufacturing Co.
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Do you know what year?
Also, on my ggrandfather came from Lurgan, County Armagh. I was told by my genealogy group that often times immigrants used the largest town/city near them to say where they came from.
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On the 1880 Cenus( I use Familysearch.org) there is a Michael in Ny and a Michael in Cambridge, MA
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Furfey was a common name in the Lurgan area and I have come across it many times whilst adding records. You might also want to look at spelling variations such as Furfy and Furphy.
Best of luck with your quest.
Ken