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Title: William Brown 1900
Post by: sandra c on Tuesday 16 March 10 09:12 GMT (UK)
Hi i am trying to find the sibling of William Brown born 1900 at Aston Tirrold Berkshire England. William is my grandfather. William parents where Thomas Brown and Elizabeth West. Elizabeth was born at ASton Tirrold.

 I do know that William dad a brother Thomas and a brother George both older then William.

Thank You Sandra C 
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: Lolly2881 on Tuesday 16 March 10 09:23 GMT (UK)
1901 census

Street Address is 85 Aston Street, Aston Tirrold

Thomas H Brown head 59 1859 born hillingdon occupation Coach man domestic

Elizabeth Brown wife 30 1871 born Aston Tirrold

Elizabeth Mary Brown Dau 11 1890 born Aston Tirrold

Agnes Annie Brown Dau 9 1892 born Aston Tirrold

Thos James Brown Son 6 1895 born Aston Tirrold

George Arthur Brown son 3 1898 Aston Tirrold

William Richard Brown son 1 1900 Aston Tirrold

Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: Lolly2881 on Tuesday 16 March 10 09:29 GMT (UK)
1911 census not much info though just search

District Wallingford, Berkshire

Thomas Henry Brown 1858 53
Elizabeth Brown 1868 43
Thomas James Brown 1895 16
George Arthur Brown 1898 13
William Richard Brown 1900 11
Winifred Joan Brown 1903 8
Bessie Katie Brown 1906 5
Herbert Walter Brown 1909 2
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: Lolly2881 on Tuesday 16 March 10 09:36 GMT (UK)
Birth Mar 1913

Ruth S Brown
mother maiden name West
Wallingford
2c/598

hope these help
Lolly  :)
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: sandra c on Tuesday 16 March 10 10:24 GMT (UK)
Thanks Lolly

   For the information.

    Does anyone know how i will find them after the 1911 census.


  Thanks Sandy
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: ribbo39 on Tuesday 16 March 10 12:29 GMT (UK)
Sandra c,

From the Aston Tirrold Presbyterian Church PRs (ex OFHS) are these baptisms;

26-4-1903  Winifred Joan dau of Thomas Henry & Elizabeth Brown  (b.18-2)
6-5-1900     William Richard son of    "        "                "        "        (b.8-3)
14-11-1897  George Arthur   "           "        "               "         "        (b.24-8)
4-11-1894  Thomas James     "          "         "              "          "       (b.29-7)

Aston Tirrold  St.Michaels church.

12-11-1905 Bessy Kate dau of Thomas Henry & Elizabeth Aston Tirrold  groom
29-11-1908  Herbert Walter son of   "      "               "            "        "     caochman
5-1-1913  Ruth Sophia dau              "        "               "           "        "   coachman(b.4-12-12)

From the Aston Upthorpe PRs is their marriage;

9-11-1889 Thomas Henry fa bach Aston Upthorpe  groom son of  Richard Brown, Labr, to Elizabeth West fa sp  Cholsey  dau of  Benjamin West carter
By Banns.
wits; William Weller,  Annie West

and from the Aston Upthorpe PRs are these baptisms;

9-2-1890 Elizabeth Mary dau of Thomas Henry & Elizabeth Aston Up. groom

Burials;
Aston Tirrold;


 1-4-1922  Thomas Henry Brown Aston Tirrold age 64
15-11-1937 Elizabeth Mary Brown  "          "       "  69

I know some  details have already been supplied but I thought you might like to
have these as well.

I hope they help.

Alan
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: sandra c on Tuesday 16 March 10 14:27 GMT (UK)
HI Alan

      Thanks for the information it is a big help to me .

      I wont to find out about my grandfather family as i lived with them for a few years and i grow up in Aston Tirrold but no longer live there.

  Many thanks Sandra C
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: newburychap on Tuesday 16 March 10 16:16 GMT (UK)
1901 census

Street Address is 85 Aston Street, Aston Tirrold

Not quite - the address is just Aston Street - schedule 85.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: sandra c on Tuesday 16 March 10 16:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Folks
     I have another question When i lived in ASton Tirrold if you lived one side of the Main  road your address was Aston Tirrold and you used ST Michael's Church, if you lived the other side of the road in Aston Upthrope you used All Saints Church, if you were Methodist you used the Presbyterian  church.

    My great grandparents have used all three churches i wonder why

      Sandra C
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: SHUFTIE on Tuesday 17 August 10 16:58 BST (UK)
Hello, I have been reading with great interest all your questions and answers.            May I ask if Lolly 2881(or anyone really) can help me please.  I cannot travel due to a spinal injury so I am relying on good people such as yourself who seem to be a bit of an oracle of knowledge. I am trying to find information on the following ........   Rev.John CAMPBELL,curate of Aston Tirrold,between about 1811-ish and 1832-ish. His wife was Mary Hackett and their children that I know were born in Aston Tirrold  were ..... 1. William Knight Campbell,b.1817; Robert murray Campbell,b.1819; Henry Elmes Campbell,b.1822; Catherine Hackett Campbell,b.1823;Thomas Campbell,b.1826 and George Knight Campbell,b.1831.   There was another child born John Campbell,but I do not know where or when????      Whilst I know of the later lives of most of these ancestors I know nothing of John and  Thomas Campbell,at all.     It MAY be that John (jr) is older than the other children.   Can you help please.Very best regards.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: Lolly2881 on Tuesday 17 August 10 18:14 BST (UK)
Hi
Do you have the family in 1841 census? I would like to know the reference to gather more info on the family.

thanks
Lorraine
Title: Re: Campbells
Post by: SHUFTIE on Wednesday 18 August 10 13:16 BST (UK)
Hi Lorraine, thank you so much for the quick reply. I can not find  them on the 1841 Census,anywhere.Rev.John and Mary went to Bloxham/Adderbury in 1832.Mary dies there,March 16th 1833 at 41 YRS..               He remarries in 1836 to an Anne Borton.    Anne is then found on the 1841 Census visiting her family(Bortons) in Bloxham at the age of 40.  I could not find Rev.John C.  on the 1841 Census,but found him Pigots 1842 and 1844,still at Bloxham.   To go to the children .... I did find "A" William Campbell with Catherine and a Henry on the 1841 at Lenton,Notts.  ??????  If it is them that is? The men are down as Clerks which may well be right as they became solicitors. We then find Rev.John  with Anne his wife, at Cowbit,Lincs. and her  brother and sister in law,William and Sarah Borton(nee Marlin). Now George Knight Campbell is catered for as Vicar in Lincs also William Knight C. ; Henry Elmes C.; Robert Murray C. and Catherine Hackett C.   B I G   B U T    I cannot find any details of  John C. (JR) nor of Thomas Campbell. Nor can I find any one of them in early years i.e.bet 1811  and  1851.   So  H  E  L  P   PLEEEEEESE !!    Sorry if too long an explanation but you should know what I have already, so you can help me.            David.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: Lolly2881 on Wednesday 18 August 10 17:31 BST (UK)
I have searched the entire 1841 census for Bloxham town and have come up with nothing, Ann seems to be the only Campbell in town.

Im really am having trouble with this, I will keep looking, but maybe someone else might know bit more.

thanks
Lorraine
Title: Re: Campbell clan.
Post by: SHUFTIE on Wednesday 18 August 10 18:57 BST (UK)
Me again,   Ann Campbell is found on the 1841 Census. Birth date about 1801,Bloxham,Oxfordshire. Source information HO 107/875/6.Registration district Banbury. Other ref's  ... Folio 7;Line 14; G.S.U. number 474572.    Much of these ref's do not mean anything to me but may be to you ????   David.
Title: Re: William Knight Campbell
Post by: red rum on Monday 23 August 10 19:08 BST (UK)
Hi. Just read Shuftys post that he knows about the Campbells. I am looking into William Knight Campbell's life. I know he was born 1817, Married Ann Horn in 1848 and died in Liverpool in1868. He was a solicister and had at least one child called William. Any futher information would be helpful.
 Many thanks David.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: SHUFTIE on Monday 23 August 10 22:36 BST (UK)
Hello Red Rum. Going by that name I surmise you might be from the north of Cheshire, south of Southport and East of Runcorn.    Am I close??  What relation are you to William Knight Campbell??   Regards, David.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: SHUFTIE on Monday 23 August 10 22:38 BST (UK)
Red Rum,sorry, west of Runcorn,I meant. Stupid boy !!       David.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: SHUFTIE on Wednesday 25 August 10 06:41 BST (UK)
Hello Red Rum,          William Knight Campbell,1817-1868,the solicitor/barrister,was my Gt.Gt.Grandfather.He was born Aston Tirrold,Berks. along with his sister Catherine  and his brothers Henry,Robert and Thomas.He did have another brother John,but I cannot find out anything on him. He (William) ended up in Liverpool,with offices in Castle Street and Vernon Chambers,Vernon Street.  You may well know all this so if you do, my apologies. Would you be so kind as to let me know any info. you are aware of please.We can compare notes and it sounds as if we may be related if you are also researching William. Good to be in touch.  Best regards,   David.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: SHUFTIE on Wednesday 25 August 10 06:43 BST (UK)
Meant to ask, do you know what happened to Ann,his wife??        David.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: red rum on Wednesday 25 August 10 18:52 BST (UK)
Hello, Shuftie.
Yes you guessed right. I am from Liverpool.
I am looking for WKC as he is my brother-in-laws gt. gt. grandfather. His family seems to think he was known as "judge campbell". I think his reputation was slightly over blown! I don't know much more than what you have said already. I don't have any knowledge of what happened to his wife Ann.
Regards David.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: SHUFTIE on Wednesday 25 August 10 22:35 BST (UK)
Did'nt know that. He is just in records as a Country attorney.   Who is your brother in law??    David.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: red rum on Thursday 26 August 10 18:39 BST (UK)
Need to ask his permission first to put his name on here. Get back to you on that another time.
The only other thing I know is that WKC is burried in Toxteth park cemetery. Check out their website it is very good. Notice the names of the children burried in the same grave!!!
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: SHUFTIE on Thursday 26 August 10 19:10 BST (UK)
Quite understand. I believe I know who it is and I have been trying to contact a member of the family for years. Suffice to say .... clue .... one of the children of a different name is buried with William ... now I think it may be a descendant of that name ..... but check first with them to see if it is o.k. Tell them I am the grandson of George Knight Campbell and Ethel Stoll. Wonderful to be in contact. Thank you for your correspondance with us both. Speak soon.   David
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: red rum on Friday 27 August 10 18:53 BST (UK)
Hi, I think your on the right lines. He is the grand son of Martha Campbell and Henry Pedder. Where abouts are you from?   David.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: SHUFTIE on Saturday 28 August 10 07:34 BST (UK)
David, good name that!!    Great stuff. Wonderful to make a contact.I am near Stratford upon Avon     and yes I thought as much!! He may know my parents too... Con and Joyce. Unfortunately,Dad passed away a while ago now,Mum still near Evesham. She remembers Henry,Edward and Ethel.I have fond memories of all my Aunties,Grandpa Campbell's sisters. Please tell me how are the family.?? Who's who and where etc etc.?? How far have you gone down the ancestry?? I am so pleased we have contact.We should swap information,of course,i would be so happy to. Give them my very best regards,  David.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: navyrum on Saturday 28 August 10 20:41 BST (UK)
Hi Shuftie, I am red rum's sister. I really don't know where to start but here I go, I am am married to Edward ,son of Edward , son of Martha Campbell. . I can tell you that Henry, Edward and Ethel are now all deceased. My Eddy seems to recollect Joyce lived of Allerton Road not far from his aunt Effies (ethel) he not very good at remembering the past so most of what I have learnt has come from his dad before he died and from my mother in law Betty.
David my little brother has been a great help and I won't of got this far with out him. hope this make sense

Barbara
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: SHUFTIE on Wednesday 01 September 10 16:53 BST (UK)
Barbara, great to be in  touch with you.  Mum knew of the passing of Edward,Henry and Ethel but is only aware of a William Knight Pedder.   Whoodat? Is that your Edward's brother or maybe she's got it mixed up.     Mum lived with Ethel and George Knight Campbell,her parents and my Grandparents, on Springwood Avenue,just around the corner from Mums and my old School.... Gilmour Springwood Primary School. I actually went to school there with a Laurence Pedder.  I often wondered if he was a relative of ours.Do you know of him?He would be about 21  ...... no I lied ... about 60 now. Ha Ha!        Speak soon,give my very best to your Edward and any other relatives  of course. Can you send your e/m address in a private message on this site??     Best regards,   David.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: stombs on Thursday 02 September 10 22:09 BST (UK)
hi funny to see my name on the internet seems we share common ground. I am Henry Pedder, and Eddie is my cousin . I lived in Allerton and yes I do remember most of those mentioned. You are right Eddie is a little over twenty one. still arnt we all ! If you need further information I will try to search the fog of sinility and help hope to hear from you soon
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: navyrum on Friday 03 September 10 19:14 BST (UK)
Hi David,
 havn't for gotten you, just a bit busy at the moment.
Will send you my email in the next few days.  See the Pedders and Campbells
are starting to pop up out of the wood work.
Bye for now
Barbara
Title: Re: William Brown 1900/CAMPBELL/PEDDER
Post by: SHUFTIE on Friday 03 September 10 20:37 BST (UK)
No prob..... busy here too. Have to reply to Ed ... great to be in touch after all this time. Speak soon.   David.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: navyrum on Sunday 05 September 10 13:59 BST (UK)
Hello Henry,
Eddy says hi  Harry its been a long time.
Hope you are well.
Barbara
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: stombs on Sunday 05 September 10 14:36 BST (UK)
Hi to All;
Yes you are right it has been a very long time, how is everybody? We are fine

we have 2 children , well not kids now and 2 grandsons one aged 15 and one aged 2 tomorrow. Time flies Good to be back in touch after all this time.
Harry
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: navyrum on Monday 06 September 10 19:15 BST (UK)
Hi Harry,
yes we have two children as well and three grandchildren and a fourth on the way. Barbara
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: shooby on Thursday 23 September 10 00:15 BST (UK)
Hello Shuftie, Red Rum & Navy Rum - boy have I struggled to get to this point (first time registered tonight).   I am so thrilled to read your entries.  I have been looking for Willliam Knight Campbell, solicitor, died 1868 West Derby and came across you in my search.  I believe I am one of his ggg/daughters (Liverpool & Greater London) and its nice to make your acquaintance.  You've given me so much information - when I had so very little to go on.   Our family has also heard reference to the Judge, so that seems to fit in well.   I hope I'm right and we can exchange information.  Bye for now.  S.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: shooby on Friday 24 September 10 07:35 BST (UK)
Hello Shuftie have received your PM but am unable to reply to it.  As soon as I can find out what I'm doing wrong or can get fixed, I will get straight back to you.   Help shows 4 butons with message and I only have two and, of course, reply is not there.  Bye for now.  S.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: KN on Friday 24 September 10 11:29 BST (UK)
Shooby, you're not doing anything wrong!

see http://www.rootschat.com/help/pms.php

You need to post three times on Rootschat before you can use the personal message feature.

KN

p.s welcome to Rootschat!
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: shooby on Friday 24 September 10 22:43 BST (UK)
Thank you KN - much appreciated.  I will get more familiar with what to do the more use I get.  Its been very productive so far.  Glad to be aboard.  S.
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: sandra c on Saturday 09 July 11 10:45 BST (UK)
Hi
  I am going to be in Aston Tirrold  & Aston Upthrope next week. I was wondering if anyone know where  Thomas Henry Brown  was buried and Elizabeth Mary Brown. Thomas was buried 1-4-1922 and Elizabeth 15-11-1937 is it the Church yard or the crematory

Thank you Sandy
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: ribbo39 on Saturday 09 July 11 10:55 BST (UK)
Hi Sandy,
According to the Aston Tirrold PR transcripts they are both buried
in Aston Tirrold St.Michael.
The same place is also listed in the Berks Burial Index (ex BFHS).

Alan
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: sandra c on Saturday 09 July 11 10:58 BST (UK)
Hi Allan
       Thanks we are away and i forgot to look it up before we left home. I now have the parish records on CD at home and it is a great help
Thank you Sandy
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: sandra c on Monday 18 July 11 09:39 BST (UK)
Hi I am back to William Richard Brown born 1900 at Aston Tirrold son of Thomas Brown and Elizabeth West. I had a great time in Aston Tirrold last week finding my family,but i have come back home with the information that William Brown my grand father when to war. I was told that he was in the first word war but i keep thinking that he was to young as he was born in 1900.
  I did think that he did not go to war in 1939 as he was a farmerr and a part time fireman. I am sure as a child that William told me that he help build a mock village up on the down. How will i find this out. Thank Alan for the information on how to get parish records on CD having a great time with the parish records
Thank you Sandy
 
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: Peregin on Tuesday 11 September 12 20:17 BST (UK)
I have just stumbled upon this post re., Rev., John Campbell and his wife Mary Hackett.  I note they named two of their children Henry Elmes Campbell and Catherine Hackett Campbell.   Having spent some time researching my G Grandmother [Catherine Jane Elmes] who was a native of County Wexford I am familiar with these names.   My GGGG Grandfather Samuel Elmes [died 1798] from near New Ross had a brother Henry who had a daughter Catherine.  Catherine married a William Hackett who became embroiled on the rebel side in the 1798 rebellion.  It seems too much of a coincidence that these names would suddenly appear in Oxfordshire without some relationship to Wexford Ireland.  Can anyone assist?
Title: Re: William Brown 1900
Post by: KN on Wednesday 12 September 12 14:44 BST (UK)
Sandy

Could the mock village on the down be the Churn military camp?

http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=86830

The Didcot to Newbury railway (no longer in existence) used to deliver military personnel for training camps up there. 

Perhaps he helped build temporary accommodation for the troops or a pretend village for battle training?

KN