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I'm have been researching the Witherow surname in Ireland (Mostly in County Derry/Londonderry) for some years now, and have amassed quite a lot of information on approximately a dozen families who are all interconnected. There are also quite a few gaps that are difficult to close. I would love to hear from from any other people doing similar research so that we can help each other. As this is my first ever post on rootschat I hope I'm doing this right
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Welcome to Rootschat- you have posted in the right place.
Not researching Witherows but do have a bit of information on them.
Witherows in Cuilbane were same as Professor Witherow.
First Garvagh Presbyterian (old) burying-ground: Erected by John Witherow, of Coolbane. In loving memory of his sister Isabella, who died 10th August 1903, aged 72 years. The above John Witherow died 5th July 1905, aged 80 years.
Coleraine Chronicle, 8 July 1905: Death- WITHEROW- July 5, at Mettican, Garvagh, John Witherow, late of Culbane, Garvagh, aged 80 years.
John Witherow's nephew Joseph came to Cuilbane from Australia and is in 1911 census (http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Londonderry/Slaght/Guilbane/591369/) with wife and 2 sons.
Wife's death- Northern Constitution, 24 Feb.1917: Death- WITHEROW- At Western Infirmary, Glasgow, from shock, on the 13th inst., Annie Reid, the beloved wife of Joseph Witherow late of Cuilbane, Garvagh.
PRONI D2587/3A/10: 25 Dec.1898-4 Mar.1890 John Witherow of Coolbane, farmer, cousin of Pref. Witherow of Magee College. Nephew Joseph formerly Queensland came back to uncle's farm. Joseph's wife Annie, eldest son Alexander died young, sons George Reid and John Edward b.16 May 1898?.
St. Paul's Parish Church, Garvagh: To the memory of James Hughes depd this life 23rd Decb.1815 age 77. Anne Hughes Depd 13 Sept 1817 aged 76 of Garvagh. Mary Woodrow or H late of Coolbawnl. Depd this life 27th June 1836 aged 70 yrs. Here lieth remains of Robert Woodrow late of Coolbawn who departed this life 7th of June 1838 Aged 79 years.
There's more if you are interested.
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Hi,
If you let us know of some of the "gaps" we may be able to fill some. I have access to information on the Aughlish Witherows.
Regards
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:)Many thanks Aghadowey, you have filled in a few blanks on the Cuilbane connection, I was aware of the connection of Professor Witherow, and the connection with his townland of Aughlish, and also the Joseph Witherow who returned from Queensland, Australia, didn't know Josephs wife was a Reid or that she died in Glasgow. I have read the letters online at PRONI re the brief in regard to the disputed will but haven't yet made it to Belfast to get my hands on the original documents. (I live not that far from Aughlish) and it's a bit of a trek.
I'm very interested as to the Hughes connection as the name appears in another context in the will of another branch of the Witherow tree. For your information John Witherows mother died at Coolbane
Death Notice in Londonderry Sentinel of 28th December 1864
On 17th December, at Coolban, the residence of her son, Mr John Witherow,
Mrs William Witherow formerly of Aughlish, Aged 72 years.
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Do you want more on the Culbane family?
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Do you want more on the Culbane family?
Yes please, You guys are like lightning!!!!!!!
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Hi,
If you let us know of some of the "gaps" we may be able to fill some. I have access to information on the Aughlish Witherows.
Regards
I've got a direct line of descent from George Witherow and Isabella Gault, right through until present times.
Fairly good tree on descendants of Hugh Witherow of Aughlish including Rev. Thomas Witherows Family trying to link trees of Witherows of Kilculmagrandal and a nephew of a George Witherow (Joseph who emigrated to Millikens Bend Louisiana, USA fought on the side of the Confederacy. I'm in contact with one of his descendants living in Washington state and If I can close that gap it will certainly make her a happy woman. Anything I can do for you?
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Ironmongers' Notes on Tenants (1863)- Cuilbane: John Witherow and A. McAlister 71 acres 3 rods 11 perches annual rent £20 18s. J. Witherow, his sister, and mother; one servant. This man partner with McAlister, keeps a grocer's shop, and appears to be well off. A good house and offices. The deputation of 1860 gave him £10 for his improvements. He and McAlister have borrowed of the Company a considerable sum (?£100). wants the mearing ditch cleared out.
Also- Cuilbane: John Witherow 19a 3r 24p (£12 8s).
1886 Ironmongers' Tenants' Lists (The Brewers' Company)- Cuilbane, Parish of Desertoghill: John Witherow 19a 3r 21p (£11), John Witherow 71a 3r 11p (£19 5s).
Coleraine Chronicle, 9 Jan.1915: a farm of land at Cuilbane belonging to Joseph Witherow containing 71a 9p was sold to Bernard McNicholl of Brockaboy for £502.10s + fees (this is just a note of article- Coleraine Library have the newspaper on microfilm).
First Garvagh Presbyterian Church- marriage: 6 Jan.1824 James Hues to Isabella Woodrow. Note: Witherow sometimes written as Woodrow.
I take it that you've obtained a copy of Prof. Witherow's autobiography? There's also a bit of information in Historical Gleanings from County Derry by Sam Martin about Prof. Witherow's background and family (p.167-169).
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Thanks again Aghadowey, I'll try and link this new information into the various trees. Yes I have a copy of Thomas Witherow's autobiography, I'll have to try and get a copy of Historical Gleanings.
There are a lot of links with my tribe and an awful lot of Presbyterian clergy. All of the following have either added a bit to the Witherow gene pool or have had a bit of Witherow blood in their veins, they are:
Rev. James Milling curate of Battersea
Rev. James Milling Witherow
Rev Thomas Witherow, Maghera, Magee College, Moderator of the general assembly
Rev. William Witherow, Westbourne, Belfast
Rev. Thomas Hastings Witherow
Rev. William Oliver, Dunluce.
Rev. A.H. Wray, Isle of Man
and there might be another couple if I look a bit harder
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Some Witherow baptisms in Ballykelly Prebyterian & Church of Ireland:
Ballykelly CI 19 Mar 1801 Jane d’r of James & Anne Withero
Ballykelly P James Widerow a dau born Jan 1 1808 baptised Feb 26, Lilly
Ballykelly P 1810 Thomas Widrow, Drumreighland, a dau born March bapt April 14, Rebecca
Ballykelly P James Witherow Drumreghlan, a son born Aug 26 bapt Oct 6 1810, James
Ballykelly P 1812 Thomas Woodrow, Drumreighland, a dau born Feb bapt Lilley April 5 1812
Ballykelly P 1813 John Widerow, Drumreighland, a dau born July 19 bapt Elizab Jean Aug 1 1813
Ballykelly P Thos Witherow a son born June 15 1814 bapt 25 July Thomas
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Some Witherow baptisms in Ballykelly Prebyterian & Church of Ireland:
Many thanks Gortinanima, Much appreciated
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Any connection to William Witherow who married ?? Scott and emigrated to Australia (Melbourne) c 1950.?They called their house "Aughlish"
?? Scott was my late husbands cousin. Her mother was Elizabeth Gibson m'd Samuel Scott on 22nd August 1920,in Dungiven Presbyterian church, and my husbands mother was her sister, Margaret Gibson. (m'd Joseph Harper 1920)
Agnetta.
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Agnetta,
My sources show that Samuel Morrison Scott married Elizabeth Gibson in Bovevagh (2 miles north of Dungiven) Presbyterian Church on 15 Sept 1920. Samuel appears to have been a widower, having married Hannah W. Thompson on 12 Jun 1913 in the same church. Hannah Scott died Apr-Jun quarter 1919.
Regards
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Any connection to William Witherow who married ?? Scott and emigrated to Australia (Melbourne) c 1950.?They called their house "Aughlish"
?? Scott was my late husbands cousin. Her mother was Elizabeth Gibson m'd Samuel Scott on 22nd August 1920,in Dungiven Presbyterian church, and my husbands mother was her sister, Margaret Gibson. (m'd Joseph Harper 1920)
Agnetta.
All the Witherows of Aughlish and Gallany seem to be related but as there were so many Witherow families living in the area in the late 1800's and early 1900's I'm having real trouble tying the whole thing together. Perhaps we can help each other. I don't know if you are aware of the magazine "Benbradagh" but there is quite a bit of information in editions 16 & 17 on the Witherow and Scott families in Australia. Including family photographs of both families. It's a bit on the large side to put on rootschat and would be possibly in breach of regulations as it may contain references to living people. If you are interested I can PM it to you. Do you have any references to the surname Henry in relation to your Scott family? If you have I may have some very interesting information for you.
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Witherow - I'm not researching "Scotts" as such.It was just that I knew Willie Witherow through my late husband,who was a cousin of Willie's wife. We visited them when we went to Australia.(my husbands mother was Margaret Gibson and Willies wifes mother(step mother actually) was Elizabeth Gibson,Margarets sister.When your post said Aughlish and Gallony,I just thought there had to be a connection.
I don't have any "Henrys" in my research. Agnetta.
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Kingskerswell - Is it possible Samuel Scott and Elizabeth Gibson could have had a marriage ceremoney in both churches(Dungiven and Bovevagh)? I know Samuel was a widower when he married Elizabeth (k/a Lizzie)Gibson.
According to the Gibson family Bible,they m'd in Dungiven on 22nd August 1920. and you have Sep 1920 in Bovevagh.Could it have been to accomodate both families.? I have come across two marriages for the same couple,several times,but usually it has been a case of one in Scotland, and then in Ireland a week or so later,not in 2 churches so close tog.
Lizzie was actually step mother(much loved) to the 3 Scott girls (that I know of) Annie Scott m'd Andrew Smyth. May? Scott m'd William Witherow,and one m'd William Mc Farland
I'm really curious now about the 2 marriage dates and places.Agnetta.
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Agnetta,
Like you I have come across two marriages for the same couple but they often occurred on the same day and often involved a Registry office. In this case I am afraid that I cannot account for the two dates.
Should not already know it Samuel Morrison Scott was born in Dungiven district on 28 Sept 1872 to Joseph Scott and Mary Ann Smyth. He had a twin sister, Margaret. Parents married on 27 May 1872 in Bovevagh Presbyterian Church.
Regards
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Thanks for the info in Sammy Scott.A little more detail for the Gibson tree.
Speaking of Gibsons does this ring any bells for your research?
Mary Ann Gibson b 1889 married John Moore in 1910They had one daughter Elizabeth (k/a Betty)bc 1912, who married a man called ?? Morrison.They had no children.
Betty was my late husbands cousin.Mary Ann Gibson and Margaret (Gibson) Harper were sisters. Agnetta
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Agnetta,
Yes, I can find a William John Moore who married Mary Anne Gibson in Dungiven Presbyterian Church on 3 Mar 1910. My sources only give children up to about 1885.
Regards
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Kingskerswell - I didn't know he was WILLIAM John.Thanks for that. Agnetta
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Just caught up with this thread.
Some time ago, aghadowey, and others, were helpful with my Witherow research.
As Witherow is a new member, I wonder if he/she has come across my family. They were
at Killygullib Glebe, Bovedy, near Kilrea in the 1911 census, (transcribed as Withrow), but I have no idea where they came from before that. I hope the 1901 census will help, but any ideas would be
gratefully accepted. Thank you ama
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AMA
Good to hear from you. I've had a wee look at your previous threads re Witherows and if I've got it right for your tree I might have a few thoughts for you. The John Witherow who you were enquiring about seemed to have a brother James. There was a marriage of a James Witherow and a Rose Mc Namara in the registration district of Limavady in the Oct - Dec Quarter of 1908. The now Rose Witherow turns up in the 1911 census at Benares Street in Belfast and she is now a widow with a child. You seem to indicate that John & James mothers name was Barnett or Barrett. Now it might be a long shot but there are quite a few Witherows living in the Townland of Three Trees in Donegal on the 1911 census and there are 14 Barnetts living in the townland of Drumskellan in the DED of Three Trees. Rose Mc Namara's family were Catholic and that could fit in with your family legend that there was a fleeing after a marriage. If the family did flee to Killygullib as a result of that marriage it may well be that they went there to be near other Witherow relatives and all the Witherows that appear in the Garvagh, Kilrea area seem to be of my tribe. If you want to PM me any other details that you have, particularly in regard to any earlier generations I'll do my best to see if I can fit it in with any details that I have to the Donegal branch of the tree.
Hope this is some help
Witherow
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Witherow,
Thank you for the reply and offer of help.
As you will have seen from my posts, I do not know anything about the earlier family.
However, Barnett was the surname, (not Barrett), that much I do know.
James, born 1886, son of John & Matilda joined the British Army, and survived the Great War, so Rose Witherow in 1911 Belfast was probably not his.
John, born 1889 went to London and married there in 1912.
Matilda born 1892, went to USA in 1912 where she married.
William born 1895 remained farming ( later at Laragh townland, DED The Grove, Co. Derry)
I'm sorry not to be more specific, but would love to know how the family ended up where it did,
I hope it will become clearer with the 1901 census.
Thank you again, ama
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Hi,
Maybe this will interest you, from Australia.
Jane Witherow was my 3rd g grandmother, who married Robert Ramsay. Their daughter, Jane (1830) married John Irwin in 1855 at Bovevagh Presbyterian, Derry.
Jane & John had 3 sons who came to Qld, Australia in the 1880's, Joseph (1864) (my G grandfather), James(1859) and John Witherow Irwin(1871). (The name Witherow was used as second names at least 3 times here). Joseph was a carpenter and the other two were policemen.
On 17th April 1895, James married his 1st cousin, Rebecca Ramsay at the residence of Joseph P Witheron ("n" being likely a transcription error, it is "W" on the marriage Certificate), Flinders Street, Townsville, Qld.
In my searches on Joseph Witherow I found he had married Annie Reid, certificate No. 1893/C1806. Children born in Australia were Alexander (1894), George Reid (1896) & John Edward (1898). There are no deaths in the Index for any of them.
I was interested when I read the comments from aghadowey, that they had moved back to Ireland.
All the best, Ian
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Ian
Many thanks for all this information, It is much appreciated. As you'll see from my thread I'm trying to connect about 10 families of Witherows who all came from the same area here in Ireland. I have quite a lot of information on Joseph Witherows family including letters from Queensland to his uncle at Coolbane which I can send as a personal message to you if you are interested. There was also a legal case in respect of an inheritance of his which I'm still in the process of researching, I'll keep you informed of that when I find out more. In regard to Joseph Witherow's wife Annie Reid, she was born in Scotland and died in Scotland at Western Infirmary, Glasgow on 13th February 1917 (of shock) Her first child Alexander died in Australia (prior to December 1898) and she and her husband Joseph and children George Reid and John Edward returned to take over one of their Uncle John Witherow's farms at Coolbane, near Garvagh. I am also really interested in the Ramsay connection as there are several mentions in other letters I have from another Joseph Witherow of Louisiana in the USA of "Cousin Ramsay's estate" there.
I have a few questions that if you have answers may help greatly.
1. Do you know where Joseph Witherow and Annie Reid were married?
2. Do you know the relationship between Joseph Witherow and your GGG Grandmother Jane Witherow?
3. Do you have a copy of Joseph Witherows and Annie Reids marriage certificate and if so are their parents names on it?
Many thanks again for all your help
Witherow
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Hello Witherow,
To answer your Questions;
I do not know the relationship of Joseph and my 3rd G Grandmother, or any of the family. I found her name to be Witherow and when I saw on James and Rebecca's Marriage certificate, Joseph's name, I assumed they were related in some way.
Joseph and Annie's marriage I believe was in Townsville but as I have not bought the certificate I can't be sure. The "Qld Australia"Certificate no. is on yesterdays notice.
I will attach 3 documents which may be of interest as far as the Ramsay family go. I have family information of John and Jane (Ramsay) Irwin, John and Mary (Fleming) Ramsay. The gravestone is of John Ramsay's family and some of their grandchildren. Marriage Cert is John and Mary Fleming. The other attachment is of some Bovevagh Presbyterian Church Records on that Derryork Ramsay family. John is Jane (Ramsay) Irwin,s brother and son of Jane (Witherow) Ramsay. This is only the second time I have replied to postings on Rootschat so you may not be able to send anything through PM. I would love to recieve the information you spoke of.
All the best for now, Ian
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Ian
Many thanks for the information, much appreciated. I'll personal message the other information to you.
Witherow
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Ian,
Thanks again for your information, Tried to personal message that other stuff to you but can't as you have only made two posts and need three for personal messages. If you reply to this one that will give you three and I'll be able to send the PM.
Thanks
Witherow
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Hello Witherow,
So many learning curves these days, not long ago I said I didn't want to know any more. I have the families of the Jane Witherow/Robert Ramsay marriage as well as Jane and John Ramsays, if you want them. It would be clearer than the info posted on the attachments. Look forward to recieving your information.
Ian
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Hi Witherow,
Have you come across a Thomas WITHEROW who married a Mary ROSBOROUGH possibly around 1814. Thomas also went by the name of WETHERALL.
Thomas was from the parish of Banager.
Regards, Christine
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Thomas Witherow & Jane Rosborough of the Irish Green Newtownlimavady had a son James baptised in Christchurch [Drumachose] Church of Ireland, Limavady 1st September 1817.
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Hi,
According to the IGI Thomas Witherow and Mary Rosborough had a son, Thomas, christened in Drumachose on 1 Sept 1817.
Regards
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Sorry my mistake:
The exact entry is as follows from the original reigister [PRONI MIC/583/35]
Thomas son of Thos Witherow & Mary Rosborough of the Irish Green NT' Limavady September 1st 1817; Thos Plunket [Rector]
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Thank You. I was aware of this entry but not the exact wording so this is appreciated. I believe that there was a son William born about 1815. In 1842 he was living in Belfast.
I have found a burial record for a Mary ROSEBURGH wife of Thomas WETHERALL in Glasgow in 1834 age 38 which gives her birthdate at around 1796.
I also have a Mary WETHERALL born c. 1832 in Glasgow (according to census record) married at Drumachose Presbyterian Church in 1851.
Not sure what happened to either Thomas. Did they return to Limavady and if not who was Mary WETHERALL living with at the time of her marriage.
I would like to find ( if possible) a marriage entry for Thomas WITHEROW and Mary ROSBOROUGH and baptism for William WITHEROW born 1815.
Any info would be appreciated.
Regards, Christine
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It is unlikely that you will find the marriage as it is before civil registration therefore you have to rely on the church registers if they have survived.
Most of the L'Derry church registers have been indexed by the Derry genealogy centre and this index is searchable at the following website:
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/csi/index.html
I did a search for Witherow/Rosborough marriage and the return was negative
Likewise for the birth of a Thomas Witherow c.1815.
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Christine,
I could not find the detail you are looking for but the 1851 marriage of Mary Wetherall was to John Simpson and date was 28 Jan 1851. Hope this helps.
Regards
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Mary Wetherall, age 20, daughter of Thomas Wetherall married John Simpson, son of David Simpson.
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1584964
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Yes, according to her marriage entry as per above, Mary was the daughter of Thomas WETHERALL whose occupation is given as Pensioner . This ties in with a Thomas WITHEROW or WEATHERALL born Banagher, Londonderry who served in the 37th Foot Regiment and 4th Royal Battalion. Presumably he returned home to Banagher after his discharge. His occupation was also given as weaver and plaisterer on other documents.
The Griffiths Valuation has one entry for a Mary WITHEROW living at Irish Green but it is dated 1858.
Christine
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Noticed some Witherow entries on www.neelb.org.uk/search-results/?q=magherafelt. Check out the spreadsheet at the first entry under Assets.
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Hi Ossie,
I don't think this is the family that I am looking for but it might be of use to someone else.
FNAME SNAME SEX AGE STATUS OCCUPATION RELIGION ELECTORAL TOWNLAND ADMDATE DISDATE
James Witherow Male 45 Married Labourer Presbyterian Clady Fyanee 15/07/1847 10/08/1847
Mary Jane Witherow Female 40 Married None Presbyterian Clady Fyanee 15/07/1847 11/08/1847
Mary Anne Witherow Female 14 Single None Presbyterian Clady Fyanee 15/07/1847 11/08/1847
Dorothea Witherow Female 12 Single None Presbyterian Clady Fyanee 15/07/1847 11/08/1847
William Witherow Male 10 Single None Presbyterian Clady Fyanee 15/07/1847 23/08/1847
Regards,
Christine
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Not sure where you got the above information but it's Clady, Tyanee not Fyanee.
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I'm trying to trace a Withrow ancestor who left northern Ireland around 1718-1720. We have a bible record for a Robert and Jennet Withrow, who were the ancestors of a goodly number of Withrows now living in the USA. But as far as I know, no one has been able to connect our group with a family in Ireland or the Withrows around Glasgow, Scotland. Any help or pointers would be appreciated.
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Hi,
If you look on the IGI, part of www.familysearch.org, there are several conflicting, submitted entries for what seems to be your Witherow.
Regards
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Thank you. I did know about the IGI records. As far as I can tell, all that information is based on the family bible record as transcribed by my uncle, Kenyon Withrow, back in the 1970s. We have been unable to get past Robert and Jennet Withrow, however, or determine exactly where they came from in Northern Ireland. The places mentioned in the IGI are speculation only as far as I can tell.
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Hello there rwithrow, welcome to Rootschat.
Whilst I have been researching mainly the Witherows in county Derry and have not yet come across a Robert or Jennet there are many Witherows also in the county of Donegal, Donegal is also in the province of Ulster and I feel that they are also related to my tribe. My lot are related to the Wodrows of Eaglesham near Glasgow. Including Wodrow the historian (see Scotlands people) I don't know if this is much help to you but I'll keep you in mind as my research with the Donegal Witherows and Scottish Wodrows goes on.
Witherow
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Thank you, Witherow. I suspect our Withrows are also from the Eagleham area originally. When I read about the Robert Withrow who got into trouble stirring folks up at the kirk to physically oust a minister back in the 1640s...well..I thought, yes! he's got to be one of ours. I don't know about your Witherows, but mine seem to have a genetic disposition for being...outspoken, always involved in politics and generally...rabble rousing.
Actually, the Withrows in my family truly have been a colorful lot, often quite passionate about their particular causes.
I'd love to hear more about your Eaglesham discoveries when you have time.
Thanks again.
Robin Withrow
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I am new to rootschat. I have research for the Witherow family who left about 1750 from Auglish area and immigrated to Emmitsburg, MD/Gettysburg, PA area in USA. I have from the immigrant to present family. I know that the Witherow's in the Claudy-Aughlish area are from the same family lineage. They have info for 3 generations back and beyond that it is a mystery. I would like any help or guidance.
Our family history has:
Notes for ... WITHEROW:
About 1749 All known children immigrated from County Antrim and/or Londonderry, Northern Ireland to United States.
Children of ... WITHEROW are:
+ 2 i. Margaret2 Witherow, born 1729 in Northern Ireland; died 10 Apr 1799 St Clair, Allegheny Co, PA
+ 3 ii. John Witherow, born 1731 in Northern Ireland; died 21 Aug 1794 Emmitsburg, Frederick Co, MD
+ 4 iii. Jane Witherow, born 30 Dec 1732 in Northern Ireland; died 23 July 1785 Gerttysburg, Adams Co, PA
5 iv. William Witherow, born 1735 in Northern Ireland; died 2 Nov 1785 in Emmitsburg, MD (buried, Presbyterian Cem). Notes for William Witherow:24 May 1771 Deed, FrederickCo, MD, Bk O, pg 327.
6 v. Elizabeth Witherow, born 1739 in Northern Ireland; died 20 Mar 1750/51 in Gettysburg, Adams, PA (buried, Lower Marsh Creek Cem).
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There are two brief mentions of a William Witherow in letters that were written by James Rosborough of Alla to his brother and my great-grandfather, William John Rosborough.
Letter dated 13 January 1939:
"William Witherow of Alla is In hospital at present his family are all married."
Letter dated 10 November 1941:
"George Hopkin is dead and his daughter married a son of old William Witherow."
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I have a Mary Witherow who married John Collins. She was born about 1801 in Aughlish I believe.
Can any of you throw any light on her?
I have posted previously about Colllins of Desertmartin and this is a branch to the Witherows
Thanks
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1821 census Auglish, Banagher [T808/15137]
No 4
Joseph Witherow, aged 60 farmer of 12 acres
Mary, wife, 56
James, 26
George, 23
Joseph, 15
Mary, 20 * [could be your Mary who married John Collins?]
Fanny, 13
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What is the best way to link the USA - Witherow's with the Irish - Aughlish Witherow's? I have very old data back to 1740's lineage to Maryland and Pennsylvania line. We feel that they are from the same family, we just can not connect the parentage.
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Does anyone have any info about the -erow origin? I have seen other names with that suffix. Does is have a meaning.
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Thanks again Aghadowey, I'll try and link this new information into the various trees. Yes I have a copy of Thomas Witherow's autobiography, I'll have to try and get a copy of Historical Gleanings.
There are a lot of links with my tribe and an awful lot of Presbyterian clergy. All of the following have either added a bit to the Witherow gene pool or have had a bit of Witherow blood in their veins, they are:
Rev. James Milling curate of Battersea
Rev. James Milling Witherow
Rev Thomas Witherow, Maghera, Magee College, Moderator of the general assembly
Rev. William Witherow, Westbourne, Belfast
Rev. Thomas Hastings Witherow
Rev. William Oliver, Dunluce.
Rev. A.H. Wray, Isle of Man
and there might be another couple if I look a bit harder
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I am a member of the Robinson family which also includes Nina Ellen Robinson, wife of James Milling Witherow (married 3 November 1896 at Chiswick).
Would very much like to exchange information.
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Hello there Elphie Bey. Welcome to Rootschat, I must apologise for not getting back to you sooner but I have been a bit on the busy side recently and had a family bereavement so I'm afraid the old genealogy had to take a back seat for a while. I'll personal message you with some details.
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Hi
New to site. Ultimate goal to link MD/PA Witherow immigrants (?1740) to later MN/ND group (1860's) of which I am a member. Saw reference from Gortinanima to census of 1821 which was supposedly destroyed. Is data valid as these are likely my line ?. I have been to Aughlish House and talked with the folks there. Built by Hugh but he is not my immediate relative. My grandfather said the Aughlish at one time was exclusively Witherow Need better info. Is this site still active?
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1821 census Auglish, Banagher [T808/15137]
No 4
Joseph Witherow, aged 60 farmer of 12 acres
Mary, wife, 56
James, 26
George, 23
Joseph, 15
Mary, 20 * [could be your Mary who married John Collins?]
Fanny, 13
I think this is my grandfather's great granfather
Your posts interest me - I wonder if we could communicate directly
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I have a book that has been staring at me from my shelf every since my father died 10 years ago. Its called The Autobiography of Thomas Witherow 1824 - 1890. It was published by the ballinascreen Historical society in 1990 on the centernary ofThomas Witherow's death. He was born in Aughlish and became Presbyterian minister of maghera nd then first Professor of Churgh History in Magee College Londonderry.
As you might suspect is mostly about church history but he does talk about his famly a little.
Here is his ancestry that I have put together from what I have read so far.
James Witherow had a small farm in Aughlish
born 1759 in Aughlish
died 1845 in Aughlish
m
Jane Chambers one of 3 daughters of Hugh Chambers of Upperland
died 1839
They had 4 sons and three daughters
Hugh born 1787 was the eldest
Thomas
James
He does not give the name of the other son or any of the daughters
Hugh married Elizabeth Martin daughter of Thomas Martin
Hugh inherited the farm from his father.
Hugh and Elizabeth had 4 sons
Thomas the author of the autobiography
Robert inherited the farm and when he died intestate it was sold.
The other two died young
Thomas was born on 29 May 1824
he married Catherine Milling on 13 April 1859
He had 3 sons two of whom died in infancy
The third was Rev James Milling Witherow
His daughters were
Mrs W Adams
Mrs D Craig,
Mrs A Gilchrist
Mrs Dr Hamilton
Mrs H M Knox
Miss J Witherow
Hope this is of interest to some one.
Dave MacLurg
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I was wondering if anyone could help me connect the Witherow families in Alla, Claudy with the Aughlish and Gallony families. or even with the Witherows in Co Donegal.. Im sure they must all be connected.
I have a Hugh Witherow B. 1826 D. 1915 married to Mary Jane Johnston D. bef 1901. I believe Hughs father was Alexander Witherow but I have no further information on him.
According to the 1831 census there looks to be 2 Witherow families in the Alla, Claudy area at that time but I have no information on them
Witherow Witherow Alexander Tirkeeran Cumber Upper Alla Upper
Witherow Witherow David Tirkeeran Cumber Upper Alla Upper
Any help would be greatly appreciated
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Tanya
I can perhaps help you a little bit anyway. Your Hugh Witherow appears on the 1901 census of Ireland but the name was wrongly transcribed as Witheron and so you would have to search for that. I had his wife as Mary Jane but didn't know her surname until I saw your post. Hugh's Father was Alexander and his mother was Mary, again I'm sorry but I dont know her maiden surname.
Like you I firmly believe that all these Witherow families are linked and I have around 15 Witherow trees that I am slowly getting linked together. I have quite a lot of information on the younger descendants of your Hugh Witherows tree and would be happy to assist you in any way I can. Feel free to personal message me an e-mail address if you feel It would be easier. I'm away all day tomorrow so it might be Sunday or Monday before I can get back to you.
Regards
Witherow
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Thanks Witherow for your reply..I would be interested in some information..I already have most of the younger descendants but it would be.nice to fill in some gaps. I couldn't find Alexanders wife's name so that's one gap filled already...:-)
One thing I'm really interested in is where have all these Witherow families gone? Like you mentioned there were a lot of interconnected families at one stage but now there are only a few In this area
Ill be in touch
Tanya
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Also looking for any further information on a Thomas Wodrow, son of Robert Wodrow (Eaglesham, Glasgow) brother of Rev James Wodrow, who moved to Ireland and changed his name to WITHEROW. Found some information that says he moved to Ireland and changed his name to get away from some "political trouble" and that he had 3 sons that settled in Donegal, Derry and Antrim???
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I, too, am trying to find information about this Thomas Witherow/Wodrow, brother to Rev. James Wodrow of Eaglesham, Scotland, subject of a book by by his son Robert. I also read that Thomas moved to Ireland because of some political trouble. A number of online genealogies show him as father to a Christopher Paul Withrow, who, they say, was father to Robert Withrow, b. 1692, who was the ancestor of many American Withrows, including me. However, I have seen no evidence at all to support this claim and can't figure out how it got started. If anyone has any information on Thomas's children or this mysterious Christopher Paul Withrow, I would love to hear from you.
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I would like to contact anyone who is researching the Witherow family from Londonderry County, Ireland. I have an ancestor named Thomas Witherow born 1795 and I can find neither his parents nor any information on him in Ireland - any help would be greatly appreciated.
Thank you
Darin Flansburg
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Just to save people from having to read all through this thread-
"he was born in the parish of Aghadowey in 1795 and that he came to the USA in 1821 (per his naturalization papers). Also his first wife was Jane Campbell. They probably married around 1817/18 as their son John was born about 1819. Jane died soon after coming to the USA and Thomas married next Nancy Patterson. Their children were Robert, William, Thomas, James, David, Joseph and Samuel."
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I have a book that has been staring at me from my shelf every since my father died 10 years ago. Its called The Autobiography of Thomas Witherow 1824 - 1890.
I have a copy too! My mother provided some of the pictures that are in it.
Thomas was born on 29 May 1824
he married Catherine Milling on 13 April 1859
He had 3 sons two of whom died in infancy
The third was Rev James Milling Witherow
His daughters were
Mrs W Adams
Mrs D Craig,
Mrs A Gilchrist
Mrs Dr Hamilton
Mrs H M Knox
Miss J Witherow
Hope this is of interest to some one.
I've just joined rootschat and I'm like a child who has suddenly opened a box of treasures.
The Mrs D Craig mentioned above (Marie Lilias, known as "May") was my Great-Grandmother on my mother's mother's side. I remember visiting her as a very small boy, in a great tall house in Portrush, and that she -- to tiny me -- was an ancient and scary apparition all in black. I probably knew, or know of, some of the others, but mainly by their first names ("Aunt so-and-so") so I'm not sure which is which. I have a photograph of Oaks Lodge, where David and May Craig lived for a period early in their lives. It was in Goshaden, and has been demolished.
My grandmother, daughter of Marie Lilias, married Thomas Watson and I have extensive information about that part of the family, but nothing much about either the Witherows (aside from the renowned Thomas), or the Craigs.
I have some photographs, including some Millings; I didn't know until now who they were and where they fitted.
Glad to read any more, if this thread is still alive.
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Hello there Belfast Henry
Welcome to Rootschat, this thread is definitely still alive and I have extensive information on quite a few of the Rev Thomas Witherows son and daughters and indeed am in contact with quite a few of their living descendants in various parts of the world. The Craig line is the one that I have the least information on as I have just started a short while on that one, but I can take the Witherow line backwards and sideways quite a bit for you. You will need to post another two posts on Rootschat to enable me to personal message you my e-mail address and then we can get cracking by e-mail or if you are resident in Northern Ireland we could even meet up somewhere. It may be next week before I can get going for you as I'm off to Scotland this weekend (leaving Friday and back on Sunday) Prepare to meet some interesting characters and information, it's a very interesting tree.
regards
Witherow
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Interesting that you should say that you're short of information on the Craig line; in my bit of the family we have extensive information on the Watsons for several generations back but hardly a word on the Craigs. I have a photograph of David Craig (who married Marie Lilias Witherow) but even my mother, who still remembers who everybody was, has knowledge only of a few Craig uncles and cousins and little else.
I do know of a Craig of my generation living in Co Derry and I expect he knows something. When I've done my three posts I'll PM you and we can compare notes.
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Witherow, you're plainly an old hand at this so I expect you found ages ago what I've just found, but at http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/index.php?id=931 (http://www.historyfromheadstones.com/index.php?id=931) there's a record of a gravestone inscription for a number of members of the Craig family, some of whom I can place because I've heard talk of them.
Also interesting is that Robert Edwin Lee Craig (d 1977) was married to a Lena Lilias (d 1998), who I'm sure was a Witherow, since it was often said in the family that Uncle Lee and Aunt Lena were cousins, but not of one another.