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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Kent => Topic started by: swede2 on Thursday 11 March 10 22:37 GMT (UK)
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Hi
Looking for information on James Staats Forbes, Quartermaster, Royal Horse Artillery, Woolwich, Kent. Born approx 1796 Scotland and died 1846 Woolwich. Wife - Ann.
Particularly on his son, Arthur Rowley Forbes born approx 1828 who emmigrated to Australia and married Catherine Mutter Young of Lanark, Scotland.
Have the census records for 1841 but Arthur is gone by the 1851 census.
Any help on this family at all appreciated.
Thanks!
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I'm not quite sure what you are looking for so there is an Arthur FORBES baptised Woolwich (born 21 Aug 1827) 7 Sep 1827 son of James and Ann http://www.familysearch.org (select Record Search Pilot) where you will also find other children baptised to James and Ann.
Are you looking for a marriage for James and Ann? If so, does the 1841 census indicate where everybody was born?
Casalguidi :)
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Thanks for that. I have actually managed to find a lot more info since I posted the query including James and Ann's marriage and the birth/baptism records for Arthur and his siblings. I would really like to know now when Arthur migrated to Australia, (which I have been very unsucessful at). I know he is missing by the 1851 census but he didn't marry until 1870 in Qld, Australia, so I have a few missing years. Would also like to know where James and Ann were born. The 1841 census only lists Scotland for James and Cerk, Ireland for Ann.
Appreciate your time in replying.
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I assume Ann's birthplace would be Cork ie. the county of Cork in Ireland? With regards to James was he still serving when he died or was he an army pensioner would you know - pensioners are easier to trace?
Casalguidi :)
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James is listed as residing at the Royal Artillery Barracks at the time of his death, as a Quarter Master Sergeant, so I am presuming from this that he was still in the army and not on the pension.
Do you think if I obtained his service records I would be able to trace birthplace and perhaps parents names or did they not keep such information in army records that early? I have very little knowledge of these records in the UK. WW1 and WW2 records here in Australia keep this info but of course that is 100 years further on than James when record keeping had improved!
Thanks
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I am a descendant of Arthur Rowley FORBES & Catherine Mutter YOUNG
m. 24 Feb 1870 Bindango near Roma Qld Aust.
I am a Granddaughter of their 4th child William
b. 18 Sep 1876
d. 16 Sep 1968.
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hi ko-alla-ann....can you modify your post and remove your e-mail address,,,,the mods will delete it anyway....once you have made a reply to this message,,,you will be able to send a private message to swede. You are leaving yourself open to spamming by posting your addy online ;)
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Thank you gortonboy.
Sure can tell I am new at this huh! Just getting back into researching some more family information after a phone call out of nowhere recently from someone who does up bush graves. He only knows the surname was FORBES and an approx. year of death and the position of the grave in bush Queensland.
Thanks again.
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Are you still requiring information about James Staats Forbes and his family. he is a direct ancestor on our family tree. Please send any questions you may have.
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Have managed to track a bit more info down but would very much like any information on Ann Forbes (nee Walker) and where she came from as well as where James Staats originally came from in Scotland. I have him enlisting in the Royal Artillery in Negg, Kincardineshire when he was 18 putting his birthdate at 1795. Any information regarding the family in Scotland would be much appreciated. I am particularly interested in Arthur Rowley (his son) who came to Queensland. As I mentioned he is on the 1841 census and gone by the 1851 census. I would like to know when he came out to Australia. I have some info on his siblings and their marriages from the census. Which member are you connected through?
Thanks for your help
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Hi, I replied yesterday but it has not appeared on the web page so wonder if you have received it. Anyway, will have another go. I hope I can fill in a few of the missing links for you. Our line is of Alexander Forbes the brother of Arthur.
I am intrigued that Arthur Rowley is on the 1841 census and birth register as Arthur and not Arthur Rowley, but there is a younger sibling called Rowley who died in infancy, and I wonder if it is possible that he later took on that middle name. Do you know of any explanation?
Firstly, James Staats Forbes (1796-1864) and Anne Walker to my knowledge had 8 children James Staats 1823 1904, John Adams, 1825 1843, Arthur (Rowley), 1827 1890, William 1830 1888, Ann 1833 ?, Alexander 1835 1880, Rowley 1838 1839 and Harriet 1841 1841.
As you say, they were a Scottish family from Aberdeen. James (1796) was in the British army and moved to Woolwich where he worked in the Royal Arsenal as a quartermaster. His father, also James Staats, b 1760, was a wine merchant in Queen Street, Aberdeen. The family believes Staats is a Dutch name that was given to the first born male of each line.
So, four boys and one girl made it to adulthood.
James Staats. You will find much on the internet about him. He is described as a railway administrator and art connoisseur. I know he did at sometime work on the building of the Karunda railway in Queensland, (date on my lost hard drive), so perhaps Arthur Rowley went there to work with him and stayed.
William became General Manager of the Midland and Great Western Railway of Ireland.
Alexander was also a railway manager in England.
I have more detailed information about them if you would like it, although Arthur Rowley is not known to the family. At the moment much of my information is on a broken hard drive which is being transferred to a new computer this week, but even if I cannot retrieve the files I will be able to supply more details if you are interested.
I know nothing about Ann Walker, but perhaps James was sent to Ireland with the army and met her there?? I think it is possible James Staats (1760) was married to Jean Jopp, but not 100% sure. Also, another web post has James (1796) as married to Annie Beattie and I wonder how this fits in.