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Title: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 10 March 10 08:58 GMT (UK)
I have photographs of, I think, all of the memorials at Spion Kop, and would be willing to forward copies to interested parties.  Just let me know the name and I'll look for him.

BumbleB
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: walkerpete on Thursday 11 March 10 22:25 GMT (UK)
BumbleB

I would be interested if you can find

MCCORQUODALE - Lieutenant Hugh Stewart - Thorneycroft's Mounted Infantry.
Killed in action at Spion Kop. 24th Jan. 1900. Aged 24. Son of George and Emily McCorquodale, of the Isle of Anglesey. Born August 1875.

He was my mother in law's 1C1R

Many thanks

Pete
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 12 March 10 07:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Pete:  I've got two photographs for you.  Lt McCorquodale appears on the main memorial, but also has his own headstone.  PM sent to you to ask for your e-mail address, as I'm not sure if I can upload these photos here, due to size (little brain, and I haven't worked out how to do it  ::)).

Sue
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: BumbleB on Friday 12 March 10 08:26 GMT (UK)
Let's try this!
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: walkerpete on Friday 12 March 10 09:34 GMT (UK)
Sent email address by PM as requested - thanks!
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: ladysmith on Saturday 13 March 10 09:04 GMT (UK)
Pete - Here is his entry in 'The Last Post', a roll of officers who died in the Boer War.

"Lieutenant Hugh Stewart McCorquodale, Thorneycroft's Mounted Infantry, was killed in action at Spion Kop, 24 January 1900. He was the youngest son of the late George McCorquodale, Esq. of Newton-le-Willows and Gadlys, Menai Bridge, Isle of Anglesey, by his second wife Emily, daughter of the Rev. T. Sanderson, vicar of Doddington, Lancashire. Lieutenant McCorquodale was born August 1875, and educated at Harrow, where he was in the school football team. From Harrow he sent to Trinity College, Cambridge, and took his degree in June 1897. He was fond of all sports, shooting, hurling, fishing, and when at Cambridge, was whip to the drag hounds. He had intended joining his brothers in business, but when war broke out went to South Africa and joined Thorneycroft's Mounted Infantry on 23 January 1900. In the battle the next day he and his men were exposed to a terrific flank fire. Mr. Winston Churchill, MP, states that the night beforeSpion Kop, when crossing the pontoon bridge over the Tugela he heard his name called, and recognised the face of a boy he had known at Harrow: this was Llieutenant McCorquodale, who said he had just arrived and hoped "to get a job." Next day Mr. Churchill heard that someone who could  not be identified had been found leaning forward on his rifle dead. A pair of field glasses, broken by a bullet, bore the name "McCorquodale." Joined in the evening, killed at dawn, "gallant fellow, he had soon got his job: the great sacrifice had been required of the Queen's latest recruit." Lieutenant McCorquodale is buried on the field of battle where he fell."

David
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: walkerpete on Saturday 13 March 10 11:01 GMT (UK)
Thanks David

Your account gives a little more detail than I have seen previously. Unlucky chap!

Pete
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 13 March 10 11:56 GMT (UK)
I know I'm a mere female, and don't understand these things, BUT  ;D

If he joined Thoneycroft's Mounted Infantry on 23 January 1900 and died on 24 January 1900, where does his rank come from?  Is one able to join as a Lieutenant?

Sue
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: walkerpete on Saturday 13 March 10 17:15 GMT (UK)
Not an expert on the army but I believe you have always been able to join as an officer. Years ago it probably depended on how much cash you had and who you knew. Nowadays there are educational and health qualifications.

Pete
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: BumbleB on Saturday 13 March 10 17:48 GMT (UK)
Fair enough, Pete, didn't want to detract from Lt McCorquodale, but just wondered whether it still went on even in the Anglo-Boer War (and he obviously had connections, from Ladysmith's answer!).  Death doesn't make distinctions.  Thanks

Sue
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: walkerpete on Saturday 13 March 10 20:37 GMT (UK)
I wonder from Ladysmiths piece whether he was the unlucky new recruit who put his head up at the wrong  time and paid the ultimate price.

RIP

Pete
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: ainslie on Wednesday 09 November 11 12:40 GMT (UK)
Coming late to this thread. 
Lieut McCorquodale already held a commission as Lieutenant in the 6th (Volunteer) Battalion, the King's Liverpool Regiment - then equivalent to the TA.
He had gone out as a correspondent for the Liverpool Daily Post, but like his school-fellow Winston Churchill, found that was not exciting enough and was taken on the strength by Thorneycroft.  There were plenty of these semi-private units involved in that war and paper work would not be a priority.
A
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: walkerpete on Wednesday 16 November 11 09:52 GMT (UK)
Ainslie
Many thanks for this latest information. Do you have a reference for it please?

Pete
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: ainslie on Wednesday 16 November 11 10:53 GMT (UK)
There are several websites which will give information via Google, but this one especially:
http://newton-le-willows.com/history/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=1834

A
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: walkerpete on Thursday 17 November 11 09:05 GMT (UK)
I'll look into it. Thanks again!
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: Donald2177xx on Monday 16 December 13 08:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Pete,
I was in my local charity shop on saturday in Manchester. They had on sale a collection of old books lether bound with gold leaf edging. In the cover was a prinetd sticker "Hugh Stewart McCorquodale " with a coat of arms ie a stag and a latin inscription. There are about 6 books in total.
Scots poetical works, Wilima Tell, Carlyle etc.
Its a remarkable piece of family history. #
regards Don

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Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: walkerpete on Monday 16 December 13 16:55 GMT (UK)
Thanks for passing this on Donald.

I will contact a member of the family who might be interested in the books.

Thanks again

Pete
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: arkay on Wednesday 18 December 13 08:29 GMT (UK)
Hi Sue,

I just noticed this post, and if your offer still stands, could you please look and see if there is a Private J. SWINDELLS on the Spion Kop memorial?  I would like to confirm his first name (Josiah), which isn't given on the website I found.  It shows he was killed at Spion Kop on 24 Jan 1900, Natal Field Force, Royal Lancashire Regiment, 2nd Battalion, Number 5385.

Thanks!

Arkay

Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: BumbleB on Wednesday 18 December 13 09:51 GMT (UK)
Yes, got him!  Not a brilliant photo, I'm afraid, but!!  And sorry it doesn't show first names on the monument either, nor regimental numbers.

If these are not clear enough, then please let me have your e-mail address, via private message, and I'll send full-size photographs.

Sue
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: km1971 on Wednesday 18 December 13 10:10 GMT (UK)
Boer War medal rolls only give initials. As does the casualty list. Even the memorial in Priory & Parish Church St Mary's. Regimental Chapel north wall Lancaster LANCASHIRE England, appears to only says 'J'. Also, as he died before WW1 his service record would have been destroyed.

You should contact the regimental museum as they may have more. Or try the local newspapers or a local memorial.

The regiment was The Kings Own (Royal Lancaster) Regiment.
Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: arkay on Wednesday 18 December 13 20:29 GMT (UK)
Thank you, Sue.  The photo is quite clear, although I was really hoping for his first name, as I'm not certain that he's mine.  (I'm pretty sure he is, though.) 

And thanks also for the additional information, KM.  From what I've read, the Battle of Spion Kop was an absolute catastrophe!

Merry Christmas to you and all the helpful Rootschatters!

Arkay

Title: Re: Anglo-Boer War - Spion Kop
Post by: km1971 on Wednesday 18 December 13 22:07 GMT (UK)
Even though the British had been in Natal for more than 50 years there were no detailed maps of the Tugela valley. If there had have been the army would have realised that Spion Kop was overlooked by other peaks within rifle range. The pity is that you can see Ladysmith from the top of Spion Kop.

Ken