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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Staffordshire => Topic started by: stevecol on Wednesday 10 March 10 00:36 GMT (UK)
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hi guys,
I'm new to genealogy and and need a little help. Frank Bloomer married Mary Astley in Dudley in 1919. I'm interested to know more of the Bloomer side and wondered if anyone can offer any help. Unfortunately this is the only info i have.
thanks
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Welcome to rootschat Steve. Probably the best place to start is with their marriage certificate. This will give both father's names and occupations. The marriage is here:
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl
You can order online using the reference details given. The price for certificates is currently £7 but this will be going up very soon, so get in quickly. ;)
FreeBMD is generally a good site though records are not yet complete, but it's getting there. So worth checking back regularly if you are initially unable to find who you're looking for.
Once you know the name of Frank and Mary's fathers you can look for them (possibly in a famly group with parents and siblings if your're lucky) in the 1911 census:
www.1911census.co.uk
You have to pay for credits to find out the full details though you can search for free.
Beyond that it is a matter of tracing the people back through the censuses which were taken every ten years, so 1901, 1891 and so on.
Don't hesitate to ask if you get stuck. There is a lot to learn and much of it is trial and error and just slogging away ....
Buying that cert is definitely your first step. :)
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A quick check on freeBMD reveals at least four Frank Bloomers born in Dudley that could fit the bill - one in 1894, one in 1897, and two in 1899.
Interestingly, in 1919, a Frank Bloomer was born in Dudley - mothers maiden name was Astley. It seems they liked the name Frank on that side of the family!!
Tony
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thanks for the help guys. really appreciate it.
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You're welcome Steve. Let us know if you have any problems or further queries. Good luck.
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Hello Steve
Marriage at St Lukes Cradley Heath. I think these parish registers are held at Dudley Archives Mountpleasant St Coseley.
Jackie
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I have a Frank Bloomer born 1898 Cradley, parents were Noah Bloomer and Maggie Fellows, let us know if your Frank has a father called Noah Steve.
Linell.
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Hi
I'm also searching for the parents of Frank Bloomer born about 1899. I believe he is my husband great grandfather. So far I have recovered the same as you. He married Mary Astley in 1919 and I believe he died in 1943 aged 44. I have found his burial records at Dudley Cemetery. I know they had at least one child Charles T Bloomer (1921) who married Lilian Sinclair in 1940, possibly two others. Charles died in 1973 aged 52. I am currently waiting for charles' birth certificate to confirm all of this, however I am 90% this is correct so far.
The two other possible sons of Frank Bloomer are (*) and Frank (1919)...and interestingly I think (*) is still alive, as I cannot find a death cert!
I am stuck as there appears to be two Frank Bloomers born in the same year, and both in Old Hill!
I'm am new to this too, so any tips would be appreciated!
Jo Bloomer
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scribbledog do you have Franks marriage cert? what was his fathers name?
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Hi
No I don't, I'm sorry....this is all work I've done without any certificates so far.
Basically my husbands grandad was Charles Bloomer...Charlies mother was Mary Astley...the only marriage I can find for Bloomer/Astley is that one in 1919....I am waiting for Charlies birth certificate to confirm his parents...then I will go for Franks certs if I'm proved correct. ;D
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I have found a frank bloomer, aged 3, who was brought up by his 'grandfather' john priest (77) in the 1901 census....
He lived there with his 'sister' Maggie Bloomer (25), and 'brother' Cyril Bloomer (4)...I wonder if Maggie was their mother?...if that is the case his father was Noah Bloomer?...
Ive found a Noah and Maggie Bloomer who had two boys Frank and Cyril????
Maggie Bloomer was Maggie Fellows, her grandfather was James Priest (known as John????)
to confuse matters Maggie had a brother called Frank born abt 1874, but she DIDNT have a brother called Cyril.......
Sorry if its all written down a bit random!
too much coincedence???????
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http://bcconnections.tribalpages.com/family-tree/bcconnections/39323/18574/Phoebe-Priest-Family
Yes Maggie's mother was Phoebe Priest, daughter of James Priest and Martha Kendrick.
Linell.
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Surley one of you must be related to the great Steve Bloomer , Derby County and England Fooltballer?
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update
the Frank Bloomer i am looking for is definately not the child of Maggie and Noah :'(
Maggie and Noah moved to Illinois in 1905, where Noah had two? other spouses and further children.....this is why i couldnt find any further info on either of them!
This Frank Bloomer married Jane...and they had children
hope that helps someone!
back to the drawing board!!!
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post what the birth cert says and we will help you some more :)