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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Suffolk => England => Suffolk Lookup Requests => Topic started by: hotrodpansy on Monday 08 March 10 22:49 GMT (UK)
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Hello, William Rush Bruce, I cannot find his birth details, he was living in Hintlesham around 1810 but I cannot trace any details for him. I know his daughter is called Harriett Selina Bruce born 1810 Hintlesham. Can anyone have a look for me? around Hintlesham? Any help would be appreciated Thanks Jenny
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In my file I have a Robert BRUCE buried in the neighbouring parish of Aldham on 3 March 1812, aged 26 years. He married Lydia FROST in Elmsett on 11 Oct 1808.
If you have not already done so, it might be worthwhile checking these parishes.
Regards,
Kevin Scott
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Hello Kevin, Thanks for looking, I will have a look at the surrounding parishes for any connections but as the dates are before the Census starts, it will prove quite difficult unless anyone is able to look at certain parishes for me. I only have really basic info on him but wondered with a middle name of RUSH that it may help. Thanks again for all your help Regards Jenny
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Hi hotrodpansy, I have seen your posts regarding William Rush Bruce. My grandmother was the grandchild of William Rush Bruce who emigrated to South Africa and got married at Post Retief in the Cape Colony. I am trying to find out which year he came to the Cape Colony and on which vessel he arrived. I know there was a Captain Bruce of the British Forces at Post Retief (Gordon Highlanders 74th Regiment) and I want to establish if there was a connection between the two. Our William Rush Bruce was part of the Frontier Wars and belonged to the 91st. Argyllshire Regiment.
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ernchat, the William Rush Bruce of this thread is not, unfortunately, the same man of this name who went to South Africa.
The William Rush Bruce of Hintlesham was born 5/8/1787, bp.25/5/1788 Hintlesham, son of John and Hannah (nee Rush). He didn't leave these shores and died in Ipswich, Suffolk in 1870.
Annette
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Hi Ernchat
I am unable to access my tree at the moment, but YES there is a link. William Rush Bruce senior did have a son or grandson named after him called William Rush Bruce who went to South Africa and from memory Cape Colony. As I did not renew my subscription to Ancestry, I now have restricted access. I found lots of information on there about the family and I am very interested to hear that your grandmother was a grandchild of William Rush Bruce senior. Do you have much info or photos on the earlier family? Would love to hear from you?
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Hotrodpansy, this is fantastic news as we could not find any information of his birth in South Africa which pointed to his birth in Hintlesham. We also could not find out when he travelled to the Cape Colony and whether there was a link between William Rush Bruce and a certain Capt. Bruce at the Post Retief Barracks where he lived for a number of years. I am going to attempt to attach a photo of my Great Grandfather George Henry Bruce and family, the son of William Rush Bruce who was born at Post Retief Barracks in 1859. I have attempted to get a copy of William Rush Bruce's will from the Ipswich Legal Office. Could you possibly point me in the right direction to obtain this. Many thanks. Ernchat.
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Hi, it's really nice to meet you.
I have a hectic few days, but I will try to access my info soon and let you know. Could I ask the name of your grandmother who was the child of William Rush Bruce? Any info and dates will help me narrow it down as I believe from memory, there were quite a few children born in Africa but the line originates from Suffolk. I am in the line of William Rush Bruce senior daughters name Hannah...a direct line down through to me. Thanks
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My Great Grandfather was George Henry Bruce, son of William Rush Bruce and my Grandmother was Lilian Bruce, his daughter. I tried to attach the photo but somehow the prompts to do this do not work. I will try to find out how to do this.
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Annette, the William Rush Bruce you are mentioning is the father of the son, William Rush Bruce that travelled to South Africa c., 1840-1850. He is my grandmother's, grandfather and is attested to by William Rush Bruce senior who stated in his will that his son was in the Cape Colony (see post by Hotrodpansy). I tried to post a photo of George Henry Bruce and family, c., 1860 but the process advised did not work (the Browse button did not come up). Stay well.
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Sorry if I unwittingly gave wrong information. The full name being quite specific I had gone from research and not the trees on Ancestry - since the latter mainly have his birth year as 1808 Hintlesham or 1832 in South Africa??
William Rush Bruce and his first wife Elizabeth Finch (died 1823) did indeed have a son William but he is shown as plain William bp.8/7/1820 Hintlesham. If 'senior' refers to 'junior' in South Africa in his will then that's fine and proves the connection - however, in my defence, he was a plain William when he was born in England.
Annette
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Ok, I just had a very quick look and definitely we are the same family. So William Bruce (William Rush Bruce's son) was the 2nd William to be born, as the first William died. I only have him as William and not with his fathers middle name (rush) Do you have evidence that Rush was given as his middle name?
To stop this becoming confusing, I will list as I know it from the actual records:
William Rush Bruce 1787 married Elizabeth Finch 1783
Their son William Bruce 1820 married Dorcus Boucher 1830
Their son George Henry Bruce is who I think you are referring to?
William Bruce 1820 was a soldier, Kent England (1851) but married Dorcus June 1856....so I believe he would have travelled to Africa sometime just before this. His birth is not Africa it is 8th July 1820 Hintlesham Suffolk.
I really hope you can attach some of your earlier photos...would be amazing to see? and also do you have any info/idea's on the earlier part of the family...ie: before they came to Africa?
I hope this info helps you
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I am trying to send photo's but after clicking the attachment button the Browse button does not appear. I have contacted the Help service and awaiting their response. Maybe someone can direct me.
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Hi'ya,
When you click the attachment button, you are looking for a heading that says "attach" followed but a button that says "choose file" this should let browse your computer for the image.
If you are not seeing this option please can you try to view RootsChat on a different browser to see if this may resolve your problem.
Regards
Sarah
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Ok, I just had a very quick look and definitely we are the same family. So William Bruce (William Rush Bruce's son) was the 2nd William to be born, as the first William died. I only have him as William and not with his fathers middle name (rush) Do you have evidence that Rush was given as his middle name?
To stop this becoming confusing, I will list as I know it from the actual records:
William Rush Bruce 1787 married Elizabeth Finch 1783
Their son William Bruce 1820 married Dorcus Boucher 1830
Their son George Henry Bruce is who I think you are referring to?
William Bruce 1820 was a soldier, Kent England (1851) but married Dorcus June 1856....so I believe he would have travelled to Africa sometime just before this. His birth is not Africa it is 8th July 1820 Hintlesham Suffolk.
I really hope you can attach some of your earlier photos...would be amazing to see? and also do you have any info/idea's on the earlier part of the family...ie: before they came to Africa?
I hope this info helps you
I don't believe the soldier born circa 1822 St. Margt. (? Ipswich), Suffolk is the William born 1820 Hintlesham - I think that soldier William was the one b.13/9/1822, bp.29/12/1822 St. Peter, Ipswich son of Richard and Lydia. In 1841 they are living in St. Mary Stoke, Ipswich.
Annette
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Hi
I don't have access to the 1851 census as no longer a member, so I cannot check and of course it could be a different William. However, William Rush Bruce confirms his son William Bruce is in the Cape of Good Hope in his will. thank you
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Hi'ya,
When you click the attachment button, you are looking for a heading that says "attach" followed but a button that says "choose file" this should let browse your computer for the image.
If you are not seeing this option please can you try to view RootsChat on a different browser to see if this may resolve your problem.
Regards
Sarah
The problem may be that we cannot create attachments in Lookup threads?
Perhaps hotrodpansy and ernchat might be better to pm each other to share photos. :D