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Title: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: staceyk84 on Saturday 06 March 10 21:33 GMT (UK)
Would anybody be able to tell me which schools were in Earsdon, in 1841 my relative Jesse Dawson is a school master, just wondering if there is anything i can find on him but a search for a school has not come up with anything, any ideas welcome  :)

Thanks
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: c-side on Saturday 06 March 10 23:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Stacey,

There was a school in Earsdon but I'm not sure when it was built.

If there is any information or existing records they are likely to be at Northumberland Archives at Woodhorn.

Christine
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: staceyk84 on Sunday 07 March 10 20:57 GMT (UK)
Thanks Christine, didn't think i would find anything online but it was worth a try as i don't live local to Northumberland  :(

Thanks for your help  :)
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: c-side on Sunday 07 March 10 22:13 GMT (UK)
i don't live local to Northumberland


But I do  :D

I'll check out what they have when I am there on Wednesday - can't guarantee to find time to look at any records but at least we'll know if they have any

Christine
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: staceyk84 on Sunday 07 March 10 22:16 GMT (UK)
Thats very kind thank you  :)

Please do not go out of your way to find anything though, just a school name would be great if possible, its a start for me atleast, again Thank You.   :)
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: LizzyD on Monday 08 March 10 14:21 GMT (UK)
The link below should take you to a document produced by North Tyneside Council about Earsdon

http://www.northtyneside.gov.uk/pls/portal/NTC_PSCM.PSCM_Web.download?p_ID=224046

Page 17 states that the old primary school in Earsdon now used as a community centre was built in 1860 so probably not the one you are looking for.  However the document contains information about Earsdon that may be of interest to you as well as some photos of the village today.

Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: staceyk84 on Monday 08 March 10 16:14 GMT (UK)
Thank you LizzyD i will take a look at it  :)
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: c-side on Monday 08 March 10 21:07 GMT (UK)
There are references in National Archives catalogue to the purchase of land for this school so I did wonder whether we'd need to look further afield for where your ancestor taught.  Possibly Seghill or Seaton Delaval.

C
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: staceyk84 on Monday 08 March 10 21:19 GMT (UK)
It is possible c-side, i have not found reference myself, i will get onto it again, it must be local as people did not really work far, within walking distance usually wasn't it, hopefully i will find something, thank you  ;D
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: Michael Dixon on Monday 08 March 10 21:29 GMT (UK)

 C is right to suggest  a look further afield.

 The Earsdon of 1840s cannot be easily compared to the village of Earsdon of today.

 In the relevant era Earsdon was three different entities...

1) a village, lying within
2) a "township" lying within
3) a Parish.

The Parish consisted of eight "townships".
Burradon, Seghill, Backworth, Holywell,  Seaton Delaval, Hartley, South Blyth and Earsdon ( the parish HQ)

After many population shifts and boundary shifts over the years, the communities of Seqhill, Backworth, Holywell and Earsdon, lie within the modern
unitary authority of North Tyneside.

The remainder of Seaton Delaval, Hartley and Blyth now lie within modern-day county of Northumberland.

So a school in Blyth , or other areas, in 1800s could have been categorised
as Earsdon, mother parish.


Trade Directories are a good source of schools of the day, usually listed under master/mistress.


Several directories are on line. Michael
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: c-side on Monday 08 March 10 21:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Michael, not seen you on here recently, or have I not been looking in the right places!

I've just checked out the 1841 census record (afterthoughts again  ::) ) and discovered that Jesse Dawson was living at Seaton Lodge which I think was down near Seaton Sluice and quite a distance from Earsdon village.

Christine
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: staceyk84 on Monday 08 March 10 21:39 GMT (UK)
Yes Michael i think you are both correct, i think a search for Jesse may provide more useful than a search for a school by the sounds of it, thank you Christine, i have only been to Northumberland once so do not know the area very well, sadly  :-[

I suppose saying Earsdon school is a bit like asking if there is a school in Northumberland today  ::) silly question really.

Thanks for your help.

Stacey
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: c-side on Monday 08 March 10 21:41 GMT (UK)
This link may be of use

http://www.genuki.bpears.org.uk/NBL/index.html

Lots of good info on Northumberland and further links

Christine

Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: Michael Dixon on Monday 08 March 10 22:02 GMT (UK)
Christine ( just when I was thinking I was immortal, got knocked down by respiratory and gastric bugs for last 3/4 weeks)

Michael
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: staceyk84 on Monday 08 March 10 22:04 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the link Christine  ;D
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: LizzyD on Tuesday 09 March 10 09:33 GMT (UK)
Seaton Lodge is indeed in Seaton Sluice.  Stacey if you are interested in Seaton Lodge, which I believe comprised a lodge house, farm and an assortment of cottages, let me know as I can direct to you to bits and pieces about it.

Liz
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: staceyk84 on Tuesday 09 March 10 09:35 GMT (UK)
That would be great Lizzy thank you, i am always interested in finding out whatever i can to add to the picture of how my relatives lived etc  ;D
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: LizzyD on Tuesday 09 March 10 09:38 GMT (UK)
I have to go out now but will put something together and get it to you later today.

Liz
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: LizzyD on Tuesday 09 March 10 18:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Stacey

I'm working on the assumption that you don't know anything about Seaton Lodge so apologies if I am giving you information you already have.  First of all location - go to the gsi map page at Durham County Council link below

http://www.durham.gov.uk/pages/Service.aspx?ServiceId=5655

and search using the post code NE26 4QL.  You have to go into historic maps as there is no image for current maps.  I find the oldest ones a bit hard to read but your computer may be better than mine.  Anyway you can go through the various years.

As for the history of the actual Lodge - click on the link to the E book given in the Northumberland resources section and go to pages 161 and 162.

Finally go to Northumberland archives web page

http://www.northumberland.gov.uk/default.aspx?page=1665

go to the Electronic catalogue quick access point and search the catalogue for Seaton Lodge.   NRO 05729/P/1/41 onwards are photos of Seaton Lodge from around 1910.  Click on full record as sometimes images don't come up on the thumbnail.  Hope some of this is of interest to you.

Lizzy

Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: staceyk84 on Tuesday 09 March 10 21:19 GMT (UK)
Thank you Lizzy, i know nothing of it so that is great i will get looking at it all, thanks again and sorry for the late reply :)
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: staceyk84 on Tuesday 16 March 10 22:47 GMT (UK)
Hi Lizzy, just wanted to thank you again for the links, especially the Archive Catalogue, it also has photos of St Mary's Island before the lighthouse was built, my relatives used to live on the Island at this time so its great to find a useful website  to learn a bit more even if its not all available online there are still some useful items ;D
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: LizzyD on Wednesday 17 March 10 16:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Stacey

I'm so pleased that you found the links useful.  I think the Archive Catalogue is great as I have come across things I wouldn't have even thought to look for.  Usually when looking for something else.  :)

Lizzy
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: staceyk84 on Wednesday 17 March 10 17:15 GMT (UK)
Yes Lizzy it is fab, i found a photo of an ancestor not just the Island but her and her family being evicted from it which i already knew about but i didn't know there was a photo so thanks  :)

I now know where to look in future  :D
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: c-side on Wednesday 17 March 10 19:50 GMT (UK)
Just to briefly pop back to the original query - I was in the archives today and looked at Robsons directory of Northumberland 1841.

Under schools it lists Dawson Jesse, Seaton Sluice.  From this I am assuming that he ran his own private school.

There was also a listing for Mary Dawson at Hartley - half a mile up the road.

Christine
Title: Re: School's in Earsdon 1841
Post by: staceyk84 on Wednesday 17 March 10 20:29 GMT (UK)
Thank you Christine for looking its appreciated  :D

Jesse and his family lived at Seaton Lodge for quite some time, there are a few other Dawson's listed there but i am not sure if they are connected although it is very likely living so close.