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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Cambridgeshire => Topic started by: jaxy on Friday 05 March 10 11:30 GMT (UK)
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seeking any information on Jabez Docura born about 1785, he married Elizabeth Harradence in aporx 1810. Looking for information on his parents names and when they came from,.
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If you put in where you got that info, Ie, marriage cert or census and place it would help us start
Garth
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oh ok.. if i could remember :(
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The IGI says he married Elizabeth HARRADIN at Bourn on 26 Nov 1810. Bourn PR transcript describes them as bachelor and spinster and spells their names DOCWRA and HARRADINE.
In the 1851 census in Bourn he was 61 born Bassingbourn, Cambs
David
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thanks so much david.. Im very new at all this and really appreciate you looking that up for me. I am unsure of the correct spelling or which name is right.. im not even sure what the IGI is?
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I can't find his baptism at the moment but am wondering if this might be a transcription error - JAVIS Docwra baptised at Bassingbourn 27 July 1788, same day as Miriam Docwra, children of Daniel and Kesiah.
Selina
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Hi Jaxy
The IGI can be found at www.familysearch.org. and is invaluable. Entries marked in the messages box as being extracted are reliable. Beware of entries "Record submitted by a member of the LDS Church" as these can be very unreliable.
The 1851 census reads
Well Lane Bourn, Cambs
Jabez Docwra head marr 61 ag lab b Bassingbourn (transcribed by Ancestry as Bafungbocaer - the B's were right, but not much else!)
Elizabeth Docwra wife 60 laundress b Bourn
Ann Howard Harradine widow 90 annuitant b Bourn
Good spot Selina, that looks like Jabez to me - the vicar spelled it the way he heard it!
David
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Found him in the 1841 - transcribed as Jares Doersam!! To be fair that is what his forename looks like and actually may have been Javis as in the baptism. It certainly does not have a b in it. Also with the surname - Docr is clear but the rest of the word is a mess so can't really blame the transcriber this time!
Caxton End, Bourn (HO 107/68/1)
Javis Ag Lab 50
Elizabeth 50
Daniel 14
Anne Haradine 82
All born in County.
Lucky that Anne Haradine was with them and also think that having a son Daniel helps to confirm the baptism in 1788.
Marriage at Guilden Morden 2 May 1774
Daniel Dockwra bac of Bassingbourn
Kezia Masters sp otp
Witnesses: James Simpson and Thomas Masters.
Banns were called at Bassingbourn but contain no more information.
Keziah wife of Daniel was buried at Bassingbourn 29 May 1793.
There are three burials that could relate to Daniel so need to look at them a bit more.
Selina
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Baptism possibilities:
Daniell Docwra baptised at Bassingbourn 19 April 1752 son of Daniell and Jackaminea.
Kezia Masters baptised at Guilden Morden 25 September 1757 daughter of Edward and Jemima.
Now I have come to a standstill - there are probably quite a few siblings of each generation.
Selina
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One of my 3XGGMs was Susannah Webb b1769, Bottisham Cambs. She died between the 1841 and 1851 censuses.
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Hi Jaxy,
Please see P/M
WhiskyMac
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wow , you people are absolutely AMAZING, thankyou so much for your hard work, i SO appreciate your efforts to help me, :))) a million times thankyou x
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i am amazed, the more i think about it the more amazing it gets... i am gobsmacked that you have all been able to find out this information for me, there are so many questions i have in relation to relatives, on my dads mums side. My dads fathers side is going to be like looking for a needle in a haystack... all i have is a name and where he used to live.. but will have to do another post i guess about that.. cant expect any miracles there.. again thankyou selina and david, :)
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You're welcome.
Miracles may take a little longer!!
Yes do another post you never know, its surprising what different people on here come up with.
Good luck.
Selina
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im just wondering then when Jabez and Elizabeths daughter Jemima was born, as its her line that is my grandmother came through. I am not sure what year she was born. I am nt sure of how many children they actually had? You have mentioned Daniel and Mirriam, but no mention of Jemima as yet? i have a year 1818 .. but i dont know if thats the actual year she was born... i believe she married a THOMAS WEBB
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There was a Jemima Docwra baptised at Bourn in 1818 but I only have the index. David might be able to tell you more about that one.
Selina
Added - Miriam was the sister of Jabez not his daughter in case that is muddled.
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ok thanks.. i was a little muddled then..thanks for clarrifying that for me.. :)
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I will try and get back later on any siblings I have in my records.
Selina
Added - it rather looks as though all their children might have been baptised Bourn as I can see none in Bassingbourn.
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At the risk of seeming over-innocent, have you pursued:
http://www.docwras.org.uk/
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I have on my scratch file (rough stuff: needs to be fully documented):
James DOCKWRA (Xtn: 11 Dec 1687, Bassingbourn; buried 1 Mar 1779, Bassingbourn.)
Married:
Rosamund RIDING (no other info here)
Known child: Daniel
Daniel DOCKERELL/DOCKWRA (Xtn: 11 Aug 1717, Bassingbourn; buried: 13 July 1799, Bassingbourn) -- I expect there are other children, I don't have them noted.
Married: Jacaminea WINCH
Known Children: Elizabeth, Charles (two of them) Henry and William
My main interest is Elizabeth.
Elizabeth DOCKWRA (Xtn: 13 Oct 1745)
Child by Robert Rowland Lacey PIGOTT (d. 21 Apr 1774. Dartmouth) -- Robert Pigott DOCKWRA.
So, hello, distant cousin.
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oh my goodness me............:)) hello distant cousin alright :)) thats fantastic, my head is spinning :))
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The IGI has three children baptised to a Thomas and Jemmima Web in Cambridgeshire are any of these familiar?
John baptised 28 APR 1839 Bourn, Cambridge
Deborrah 13 AUG 1843 Orwell, Cambridge
Elizabeth Esther 02 NOV 1851 Orwell, Cambridge,
Can you give us the names of your Gran and do you know the names of any of her siblings?
Meg
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In 1851 HO107; Piece: 1758; Folio: 354; Page: 12 Orwell Cambs
Thomas WEBB 39 baker's man
Jemima 33 born in Bourn
John 12
Deborah 8
William 2
Is this them do you think?
Meg
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In case you want to get the marriage cetificate it was Dec qtr 1838
DOCARA Jemima Caxton &c. 14 33
WEBB Thomas Caxton &c. 14 33
This means the marriage was betweenSept and December in 1838 in the registration district of Caxton You can find Birth, marriage and Death registrations here:
http://www.freebmd.org.uk
Hope that helps a little
Meg
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The 1861 census RG9; Piece: 1017; Folio: 127; Page: 3
shows they have moved from Orwell to Great Gransden Hunts between 1851(birth of daughter Elizabeth E and birth of a son Stephen 1856 in Gt Gransdon.
Thomas was now a miller and farmer of 12 acres the address says "miller of bake house"
Meg
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thanks meg, i think you are on the right track, Jemima Webb( nee Docura)born in 1818, was my GGG grandmother, All i know of her is that she married Thomas Webb in 1838,and had a daughter Deborah in 1843, so looking at what you have written, this would certainly match you findings with Deborah being 8 in the 1851 census. I was unaware of any other siblings :))
This Deborah Webb went on to marry a WILLIAM HODGE (born in 1872-1917). I believe they had 6 sons , William, Walter, Edwin,Webb(my interest), Steven and Ralph.
Webb Hodge is my GG grandfather, he was born in 1874 and died in 1969. He married Clara Clark in 1914, last night i was helped to find some information about her :)) including her maiden name and her parents names and her parnets names :)) so im over the moon.
MY grandmother(nana) was Nancy Deborah Hodge born in 1921, i believe she was the only child of Webb and Clara.
Nancy then went on to have my dad at the age of 16( illigitimate) to somoneone that was apparently already married. ( all i have is a name and a road he used to live on) so that will be like trying to find a needle in a haystack. I wont give up though, as my dad never knew his father or any of this family history. Unfortunalty my dad passed away in 2003.
I am now trying to research the HODGE side( my maiden name) I am not in a position to be able to afford to buy the certificates i need, so will have to rely on the generosity of those who can help me without those at this present time :( ..
So... i am looking for the parents of William Hodge born in 1842 and dying in 1917,( who was married to Deborah Webb.) I believe his fathers name was also William Hodge, but thats all i have to go on.
Thanks for your information in regards to their occupations, I never knew any of that information Meg, thanks ever so much :)
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In 1881 RG11; Piece: 1656; Folio: 101; Page: 16 Thomas and Jemima and Stephen (now also a miller) are sill at the mill and with them is Owen Hardie grandson born 1877 in Bow Middlesex
Thomas was born in Eltisley, Cambridgeshire about 1812 A William and Sophia Webb were having children Christened there at that period but there is no Thomas shown in the Family Search for Eltisley ???!
June qtre 1875
Hardie Edward Caxton 3b 743
WEBB Elizabeth Esther Caxton 3b 743
Meg
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Bits and pieces from Bourn parish register transcript
Marriage 30 Oct 1838 Thomas Webb widower baker, father John Webb, miller and Jemima Docwra minor spinster dau of Jabes Docwra labourer. Witnesses: John Ellis, Jane Webb & Joseph Chew
Baptism 28 Apr 1839 John Webb son of Thomas & Jemima, baker
Baptism 20 March 1818 Jemima Docwra dau of Jabez and Elizabeth, poulterer & wagoner
There's no Thomas Webb baptism c1812 in Eltisley transcript
David
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Jemima's death:
Jemima Webb age 67(birth year 1818) Sept qtr 1885 Caxton District Cabrige?Huntingdon
Caxton 3b 239
Thomas's death
Webb Thomas 85 Caxton 3b 279 Sept qtr 1898
Stephen married Dec qtr 1885
Munton Ann Severina Caxton 3b 947
Webb Stephen
Ann was from St Neots
their first son
Webb Lewis Claudious St. Neots 3b 310 born June qtr 1889
1n1891 Stephen is still a Miller RG12; Piece: 1243; Folio 179; Page 2 in Great Gransden, Huntingdonshire,
I cant find Thomas in 1891 strange ???
Meg
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there is a marriage of Thomas Webb and Ann WITHEROW 22 JUL 1834 Elsworth,
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In 1841 HO107; Piece 70; Book: 3; Civil Parish: Elsworth; County: Cambridgeshire; Enumeration District: 3; Folio: 6; Page: 6;
There is a John Webb aged 50 in Elsworth but he is a farmer married to Elizabeth
could this be his dad?
meg
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there is a marriage of Thomas Webb and WITHEROW 22 JUL 1834 Elsworth,
Not sure about this one
The transcript says Thomas Webb of Ellington Hunts and Ann Witherow otp. Witnesses Ann Webb & John Witherow, on 22 July 1834
David
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There's a baptism in Elsworth on 22 June 1834 of Thomas Webb of Ellington Hunts miller aged 21 son of John & Esther
John Webb bachelor of Gamlingay Cambs married Esther Cross spinster of Tetworth Hunts on 30 Jan 1810 at Everton cum Tetworth, Beds
There's also a burial at Elsworth on 8 July 1836 of Ann Webb age 22, no other detail. Perhaps I was being over cautious about the 1834 marriage, as it fits with the 1834 baptism
David
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It might also be worth consulting Peter Coxall's page:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/o/x/Peter-Coxall/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-Index.html
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1841 HO107; Piece 68; Book: 6; Civil Parish: Croxton; County: Cambridgeshire; Enumeration District: 7; Folio: ; Page: 2;
John Webb 49
Esther Webb 50
Joseph Webb 15
Maryann Webb 14
Jemima Webb 11
Charles Webb 7
Stephen Webb 6
both John and Joseph are Millers at Croxton mill
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It might also be worth consulting Peter Coxall's page:
http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/c/o/x/Peter-Coxall/WEBSITE-0001/UHP-Index.html
Other people's trees are useful as a guide, but are no substitute for doing your own research. But there's not much about this family, other than having a baptism date shown as a birth date.
David
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Very true David but contacting the owner of trees with your ancestors shown can some times lead to shared research and save on certificate costs and travelling to church yards and RO's :)
Meg
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i am looking for the parents of William Hodge born in 1842 and dying in 1917,( who was married to Deborah Webb.) I believe his fathers name was also William Hodge, but thats all i have to go on.
From the 1881 census which you can find on www.familysearch.org William Hodge, living on the Isle of Wight, age 39 born Gt Granston,sic, Hunts.
In 1851 at Gt Gransden, Hunts
William Hodge head married 35 Shoemaker b Gransden Hunts
Mary Hodge wife 35 b Cambs Drayton (Dry Drayton)
William Hodge son 9 b Gransden Hunts*
Jane Hodge dau 6 b Gransden Hunts*
Walter Hodge son 2 b Gransden Hunts
In 1841 they were married and living in Gt Gransden, but with no children, so were presumably married c1840. But I can't see an obvious marriage on Freebmd. Still working on it!**
David
* William and Jane were both baptised at Gt Gransden on 28 Sept 1845 according to the IGI at www.familysearch.org
**The Camdex site at http://www2.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/db/ridmars.nsf/search?OpenForm shows a marriage in 1840 in Huntingdon registration district between William Hodge and Mary Edwards. This looks to be the right marriage as on the Cambs FHS site at http://www.cfhs.org.uk/cgi-bin/baptismindex.cgi there's a Mary Edwards baptised at Dry Drayton in 1815, the daughter of William & Anne. Ideally of course you should purchase the marriage certificate, or at least William's birth cert (his birth is on www.freebmd.org.uk in the Dec quarter 1841 in Caxton registration district) which will confirm his mother's maiden name.
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Hi
I am descended from the Harradence's of Bassingbourn and Litlington. My 3 x gt grandfather was William Harradence b. 1802 in Bassingbourn, his father was John Harradence.
Any connections do you think....?? I seem to remember Docwras somewhere along the line there, I won't know for sure until I go through all my notes!
Sylvie.
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Marriage Great Gransden 17 December 1840
William Hodge bac shoemaker otp to Mary Edwards 24 spin
(no fathers given)
Wits: David Hodge and Ruth Hodge
Baptism Great Gransden 28 September 1845
William Hodge aged 4 son of William and Mary shoemaker
same day as Jane Hodge daughter of ditto.
Selina
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There is a bapt of a William Hodge, Gt. Gransden 31 March 1816 son of William and Edith labourer.
Marriage there 5 December 1813 William Hodge widr to Edith Wagstaff spin botp Wits: Mary Winn and William Chandler.*
Selina
*his previous marriage may have been 29 December 1795 William Hodge bac to Dinah Tomms spin botp Wits: James Ellwood and William Wynne.
Burial 29 November 1809 Dinah Hodge
Gt Gransden Churchyard MI
In loving memory of William Hodge who died 30 Octr 1885 aged 69 years also Mary his widow who died 8 Nov ? aged 74 years
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there is so much info there... im going to have to go read it all over again prob 10 times :)) thanks to everyone who has been searching for me.. The isle of white sounds right... will get back to you all.. thanks
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i am looking for the parents of William Hodge born in 1842 and dying in 1917,( who was married to Deborah Webb.) I believe his fathers name was also William Hodge, but thats all i have to go on.
From the 1881 census which you can find on www.familysearch.org William Hodge, living on the Isle of Wight, age 39 born Gt Granston,sic, Hunts.
In 1851 at Gt Gransden, Hunts
William Hodge head married 35 Shoemaker b Gransden Hunts
Mary Hodge wife 35 b Cambs Drayton (Dry Drayton)
William Hodge son 9 b Gransden Hunts*
Jane Hodge dau 6 b Gransden Hunts*
Walter Hodge son 2 b Gransden Hunts
In 1841 they were married and living in Gt Gransden, but with no children, so were presumably married c1840. But I can't see an obvious marriage on Freebmd. Still working on it!**
David
* William and Jane were both baptised at Gt Gransden on 28 Sept 1845 according to the IGI at www.familysearch.org
**The Camdex site at http://www2.cambridgeshire.gov.uk/db/ridmars.nsf/search?OpenForm shows a marriage in 1840 in Huntingdon registration district between William Hodge and Mary Edwards. This looks to be the right marriage as on the Cambs FHS site at http://www.cfhs.org.uk/cgi-bin/baptismindex.cgi there's a Mary Edwards baptised at Dry Drayton in 1815, the daughter of William & Anne. Ideally of course you should purchase the marriage certificate, or at least William's birth cert (his birth is on www.freebmd.org.uk in the Dec quarter 1841 in Caxton registration district) which will confirm his mother's maiden name.
thankyou David.. thats awesome :)) i know we had conections with isle of wight.. so this all sounds correct. Will keep looking on those links you sent.. thanks for that ever so much
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There is a bapt of a William Hodge, Gt. Gransden 31 March 1816 son of William and Edith labourer.
Marriage there 5 December 1813 William Hodge widr to Edith Wagstaff spin botp Wits: Mary Winn and William Chandler.*
Selina
*his previous marriage may have been 29 December 1795 William Hodge bac to Dinah Tomms spin botp Wits: James Ellwood and William Wynne.
Burial 29 November 1809 Dinah Hodge
Gt Gransden Churchyard MI
In loving memory of William Hodge who died 30 Octr 1885 aged 69 years also Mary his widow who died 8 Nov ? aged 74 years
thanks selina, im so new at this, and there is so much info to read. This sounds right though, a William being born in 1816, and grandsden hunts ... I need a BIG sheet of paper to put it all on..
so do u mean he..William (who married Edith) was married twice? wonder if there were children?
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Hi jaxy,
Yes appears that the William Hodge who married Edith in 1813 had been married previously and it might have been to Dinah.
I can't see any children baptised to William and Dinah Hodge between 1795 and 1809 at Great Gransden.
Selina
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Allow me to summarize.
I must have gone through the records of St Peter & St Paul, Bassingbourn, at some time. The following is taken therefrom.
We can identify nine children of Daniel Docwra[/color] and Jacaminea Winch:
1. James, christened 11 Sep 1743;
2. Elizabeth, christened 13 Oct 1745;
3. Charles, christened 28 June 1747, buried 18 Oct 1747;
4. Jackaminea, christened 8 Oct 1748, married Joseph Spalding 6 June 1774;
5. Charles, christened 15 July 1750, married Lydia Payne 16 Apr 1778, ten identifiable children;
6. Daniel, christened 19 Apr 1752, married Kezia Masters, 2 May 1774, eight identifiable children (see below);
7. Henry, christened 26 Dec 1754;
8. William, stillborn?, buried 21 Mar 1755;
9. William, christened 26 Apr 1756, buried 9 May 1756.
Daniel and Kezia's eight children were:
1. Daniel, christened 13 June 1775;
2. Edward, christened 23 Mar 1777;
3. James, christened 14 Jan 1779;
4. Jemimah, christened 11 Feb 1781;
5. Keziah, christened 23 Mar 1783;
6. Jabez, christened 27 July 1788 and Jaxy's main man;
7. Miriam, christened 27 July 1788;
8. Simeon, christened 10 May 1790.
My interest there is Elizabeth Docwra, christened 13 Oct 1745. She became entangled with Rowland Pigott, scion of Granado Pigott the squire of Abington Pigotts (which is half-way between Bassingbourn and Guilden Morden). But that's another story, subject of another thread.
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John.. you are awesome.. that makes perfect sense now.. thankyou for your time and patience with me. seems we are related LOL.....in a distant sort of way :)
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Jaxy: Look at the recent posts on the thread Gypsy Wedding.
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trying to find it
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Hi Jaxy
It's at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,438868.msg3072015.html#msg3072015
Is there any sign of travellers in the family? I haven't spotted any
David
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not that i know of 8)
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See the gypsy wedding thread, apparently Webb along with Ayres etc. is a traveller surname in Cambridgeshire.
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Read it Roger, but Webb isn't mentioned in it. The Webbs in this thread were farmers, millers and bakers; not typical traveller occupations.
I think travellers are a red herring here
David
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no travelers in our family that i know of.... a few millers and farmers though yes
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My point is that Ayres (in my tree) is certainly a gypsy name, Webb is recorded as a gypsy name in Cambs. amongst other places, and gypsies tend to marry into rather than out of their community, so I believe that the situation is a lack of evidence at present, but in my experience it is a probable.
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"Webb" is an occupational name, meaning "weaver". As such there probably were gypsies with the name - but there were even more non gypsies also with the name.
Following your logic, Roger, that gypsies tended to intermarry, which I have found to be largely true, then the Docwra, Hodge, Cross and Witherow names that the Webbs in this thread married must be gypsies also.
In my experience I think it's very improbable
"I think they were gypsies, you just haven't found the evidence" is not an argument that I buy!
David
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Time will tell David, in the meantime I'll get the crystal ball working! :)
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In 1851 there were 26,000 odd Webbs living in England. 1,150 of them lived in Cambs. Were they all gypsies? No chance!
I don't doubt Roger when he says his specific Webb family in Bottisham, east of Cambridge near the Suffolk border, were gypsies. But the Webb family from the Gamlingay/Guilden Morden area in west Cambs and into adjoining Hunts and Beds had been there from the beginning of the 1700s. Hardly what you'd call "travellers".
Generalising with a fairly common name like Webb can lead to faulty deductions.
See the thread at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,416579.0.html. regarding the Smith family, gypsies, in Cambs and numerous other counties ie they moved around a lot, with exotic Christian names. So were all Smiths gypsies? Hardly.
David
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No David, but many Smiths were and are. Regarding the sedentary nature of the Webbs in Cambridgeshire, my mother's family Ayres a well known gypsy surname had been sedentary in Cambs particularly Bottisham since before 1700. Certainly sedentary, and equally certainly of gypsy origin, it's not where you live, it's in the genes as they say.I think it would be more accurate to say that the Webb's and other people marrying into families with known gypsy surnames might themselves also be of gypsy origin.By the way, I had no idea whatsover that Ayres was a gypsy surname until I started researching through this site.Where I live now, Bournemouth/Poole there are very many sedentary gypsies, in 200 years time they will still be of the same ethnicity.
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Not wishing to spoil the fun folks......
But would it be a good idea to raise this as a separate topic and allow this thread to get back on track. :)
WhiskyMac
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Jaxy has got a lot of information to digest and evaluate. Doubtless if she has any follow up points she'll post again, possibly as a new thread as this one is getting a bit convoluted, with a number of families being covered.
Whether or not her Webbs were gypsies or of gypsy origin is relevant. Bouncing ideas around is an integral part of these boards which can sometimes lead you in interesting directions. Sometimes they lead into a siding, sometimes when you think you've hit the buffers someone comes up with an idea which removes them, and you're steaming ahead on the main line. Who knows what's the right track.
David
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Good point David, but remember the Buffers are on the front (and rear) of the locomotive, it's the buffer stops that you hit! If you do you face discipline procedures unless there was a very good reason for the collision.
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Hi Jaxy
I'm new to Roots Web - happened to notice your search for ancient Hodges! I'm Doug Hodge & have done quite a bit of research into the family. I note that Selina mentions that your William (b 1842) was the son of William Hodge b 1816. This William was my great great grandfather. He married Mary Edwards from Dry Drayton in 1840. Thay had seven children. As you have heard he died in 1885. Mary died in 1895. Your William had a brother called Edwin b 1853. Edwin moved from Great Gransden to Radlet in Hertfordshire to become a metropolitan police officer - his son Silas Edwin was my grandfather.
Back to William b 1816. Selina was spot on - William was the son of William (yet another one!) b 1769 eldest of 5 children of William (!) Hodge & Elizabeth (nee Staffford). He married Dinah Toms in 1795. Dinah died in 1709 & they had no children. He then married Edith Wagstaff in on 5th December 1813. William & Elizabeth were married in 1768. William was born in 1741 one of 6 children of Mark Hodge & Bridget Sergisson. Mark & Bridget married in 1733. Mark was the village wheelwright & was the son of John & Anne Hodge. John was also a wheelwright as was his father John (we believe he may have known Oliver Cromwell who lived just up the road in Huntingdon where he was MP). Mark was born on 4th November 1706 & died in 1760. Bridget died on 20th December 1782. We're not sure where Bridget came from but there may be a Scandinavian connection.
Hope this helps
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Hello i am new to roots chat my name is paul webb , have read with interest comments re Webb's of bottisham. My family have lived and are still living in bottisham/lode since the 1600s and possibly before this, to my knowledge we were not of the travelling persuasion, we were carpenters and wheelwrights. I am researching my family tree so if i can be of any help pls ask.
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Hi Jaxy thanks for PM hope to hear from you soon Paul ;D
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Interesting Arthur1, My Ayres ancestors are recorded in Bottisham/Lode since around 1700, and likely earlier. One of my maternal 3xggm was Susannah Webb, (1769- c1850) b Bottisham, the daughter of William Webb and Ann Richardson. Do these names from the 18th century ring any bells?
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Hello Redroger
Yes these names are familer to me, if your William Webb born 1754 is the son of William Webb and Catherine [ Howard] married 1745 then William would be my 6 x gt uncle.
Paul
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I didn't give a birth date for William Webb, but on what you have posted it would seem there is either something wrong with one of the dates, possible as the only date I have for Susannah is a best estimate based on the 1841 census, and she was dead before the 1851, or alternatively if the 1769 birth is correct then William and Ann married very early. Can you clarify this for me please?
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Hi
William and Anne were married in 1769 they gave birth to Susannah in1771,
Susannah married john Ayres in 1791, they had 8 children, Samuel 1792,Samuel,1793,Anne1796,Susannah1804,Samuel1806,Hannah1808,john1813 and Elizabeth in 1815. hope this helps.
Paul
Dates of birth are when they were registered not necessarily when they were born !!!
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Definitely the one Paul,the Ayres information confirms it, he was my 3XGGF. Do you have any earlier information on the Webbs please?
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Yes i have lots of information on the Webb's, but i am not sure what you are looking for?
I have made a link from William and Catherine 1745 back to a marriage between thomas and Jone in 1606 but its only a mathematical link and needs more research.