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Title: adelaide brock
Post by: obbie on Wednesday 03 March 10 16:10 GMT (UK)
hi on limerick census 1911 visiting her gran mcnamara is adelaide  brock .
she was born in dublin .
i can find no adelaide brock born anywhere in ireland for the date given .
ive tried off and on for a couple of years to figure this girl out .
brock is strong family name .
any suggestions how to go further ?
Title: Re: adelaide brook or brock
Post by: ambyrne1 on Wednesday 03 March 10 16:29 GMT (UK)
We do have a Female Brock born Apr-Jun 1902 in Dublin North.

Maybe adelaide  wasnt named by her mother and was given to a home... This happened my dad's first cousin.. she didnt have a first name and the convent named her Loretta.

The mcnamara maybe then took her in.

Title: Re: adelaide brook or brock
Post by: obbie on Wednesday 03 March 10 19:26 GMT (UK)
 2 mcnamara sisters married 2 brock men in limerick , they moved to dublin , one couple im desended from other i know they had one son i was hoping adelaide was his sister . cant find any other siblings
Title: Re: adelaide brook or brock
Post by: obbie on Tuesday 21 December 10 16:35 GMT (UK)
ive worked out that adelaide brook is adelaide brock born dublin 1903 .
Ada Annie Brock dublin north births jan-mar 1903 volume 2 page 462 , think this is her .
gonna order birth cert to be sure .
shes my grandads sister ! whom ive never herd of .
question is what happend to her ? die , marry , run away ?
my grandads dead so no answers there .
her dad was james brock mother delia mcnamara .
had 1911 census for ages and just rechecked how many children born and how many alive
4 and 4 but only 3 kids named on census , kickin myself !
Title: Re: adelaide brook or brock
Post by: valkane2003 on Tuesday 21 December 10 17:29 GMT (UK)
Hi there,
You could try the 1939 electoral register for Dublin on dublinheritage.ie to see if she's still in Dublin and going by her maiden name in 1939. It's probably a longshot but worth a look!!
Title: Re: adelaide brook or brock
Post by: valkane2003 on Tuesday 21 December 10 17:34 GMT (UK)
Just had a quick look at the register and there are a couple of Annie brock's but no Ada or Adelaide.... Sorry  :(
Title: Re: adelaide brook or brock
Post by: obbie on Tuesday 21 December 10 17:52 GMT (UK)
thanks valkane solved one mystery stuck with another .
merry christmas to you !
Title: Re: adelaide brook or brock
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 21 December 10 18:28 GMT (UK)
What about the 1924 marriage for Ada Brock in Dublin North registration district (same area as birth for Ada Annie Brock in 1903)?
http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=collectionDetails&c=fs%3A1408347
Title: Re: adelaide brook or brock
Post by: obbie on Tuesday 21 December 10 19:00 GMT (UK)
thank you aghadowey !
thats great ill order her birth and marriage and see what happens .
very strange shes never been mentioned by family .
a very happy christmas to you aghadowey thanks for all the help the last couple of years .
obbie
Title: Re: adelaide brook or brock
Post by: obbie on Monday 14 February 11 18:14 GMT (UK)
well worth 8 euros ! birth and marriage .
ada brock is indeed my grandfathers older sister , no one seems to know of her in the family .
she married kevin quinn of leinster ave his father henry quinn a fitter .
cant make out kevins occupation ?
had look at 1911 census cant see good match for quinn,s .
cant find couple on 1939 voters reg .
any help would be great , thanks !
Title: Re: adelaide brook or brock
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 14 February 11 18:17 GMT (UK)
Is it a poorly written stenographer?
Title: Re: adelaide brook or brock
Post by: gracie23 on Monday 14 February 11 18:28 GMT (UK)
I'm thinking "Stereotyper" meaning one who makes:
 "a one-piece printing plate cast in type metal from a mold (matrix) taken of a printing surface, as a page of set type"

Deborah
Title: Re: adelaide brook or brock
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 14 February 11 18:33 GMT (UK)
Stereotyper makes even more sense, especially when you look at 1911 census- Kevin Quinn is 'assistant compositor in Freeman office' (perhaps Freeman's Journal newspaper?)

www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Rotunda/Portland_St__North/32578
Title: Re: adelaide brook or brock
Post by: obbie on Monday 14 February 11 18:40 GMT (UK)
thanks gracie thanks as always aghadowey .
thats great occupation and census figured .
Title: Re: adelaide brock
Post by: obbie on Wednesday 16 February 11 19:38 GMT (UK)
i hope this is family on 1901 census henry and anna quinn varsour square http://www.rootschat.com/links/0bvc/
is kiern kevin ?
james age fits kiern and twin ? joseph ages fit with 1911 census .
also father henry is a fitter on kevin quinn,s marriage cert .
Title: Re: adelaide brock
Post by: obbie on Wednesday 16 February 11 19:49 GMT (UK)
anne seery wed henry quinn
dublin south  marriages jan-mar 1883 v2 p660
Title: Re: adelaide brock
Post by: audreyreynolds on Wednesday 06 May 15 21:31 BST (UK)
Hi,
My name is Brock from Limerick and I'm working on my family tree.
My great grandfather was George Martin Brock born around 1876 and married Margaret Twyford.
George was the son of John Brock, born Devon in 1837, think he was in the army.
Any help??
Title: Re: adelaide brock
Post by: aghadowey on Wednesday 06 May 15 21:39 BST (UK)
Hi,
My name is Brock from Limerick and I'm working on my family tree.
My great grandfather was George Martin Brock born around 1876 and married Margaret Twyford.
George was the son of John Brock, born Devon in 1837, think he was in the army.
Any help??

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George Martin Brock's extracted birth record shows the exact date, family's residence (listed as father's birthplace) and names of both parents-
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FGVK-2MB
Title: Re: adelaide brock
Post by: dathai on Thursday 07 May 15 12:00 BST (UK)
According to this John ended up in Dublin
http://www.celticfamily.ie/tng/familygroup.php?familyID=F165&tree=Byrne
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Drumcondra/Clonliffe_Road/24877/
Limerick 1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Dock_Limerick_Urban_No__4/South_Circular_Road/1502209/
With Annie buried Glasnevin 1910 age 64 using Clonliffe as part of address
and John age 81 1918 same address.
http://www.glasnevintrust.ie/genealogy/results/index.xml
Title: Re: adelaide brock
Post by: dathai on Thursday 07 May 15 14:08 BST (UK)
Dublin Register of Electors 1937 to 1964 shows
James Joseph Brock 34 Clonliffe Road 1937 to 1957
Delia Brock              34 Clonliffe Road 1937 to 1945
http://databases.dublincity.ie/electoral/search.php
Glasnevin index shows both burials
Delia 1947 age 69
James 1957 age 80
appears to have married Delia M'Namara in Limerick 1902
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FY8V-Z6X
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FY82-C6X
1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Mountjoy/Clonliffe_Road__South_Side/12767/
Title: Re: adelaide brock
Post by: audreyreynolds on Friday 08 May 15 20:31 BST (UK)
Many thanks for information.... it's a start but I've a long way to go.
Title: Re: adelaide brock
Post by: audreyreynolds on Friday 08 May 15 20:35 BST (UK)
Have you any information on Twyford, metal merchants in Limerick around the late 1800's. Margaret Twyford married George Brock.
Title: Re: adelaide brock
Post by: dathai on Friday 08 May 15 22:00 BST (UK)
Two soldiers Two Armies two Albert Brocks Uncle and Nephew
http://1914-1918.invisionzone.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=164849

http://census.militaryarchives.ie/pdf/Listowel_Abbeyfeale_Area_Page_34.pdf
Title: Re: adelaide brock
Post by: dathai on Friday 08 May 15 22:33 BST (UK)
The Twyfords 1911
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Limerick/Limerick_No__2_Urban/Augustine_Place/626569/
1901
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Limerick/Glentworth__Limerick_No__5/Perry_St___Terrace_/1503279/
marriage
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FY9B-RZ4
https://familysearch.org/ark:/61903/1:1:FYSS-XY9
Title: Re: adelaide brock
Post by: obbie on Saturday 27 June 15 14:58 BST (UK)
hi let me know if you got my pm

George Martin Brock
b 17 nov 1876 frederick st barracks
d 12 july 1944 buried mount st laurence graveyard limerick long 65 lat f
wed Margaret Twyford 13/3/1897 limerick Daughter of Robert Twyford and mary anne kelly .
Dies 18/2/1927 buried mount st laurence graveyard limerick long 65 lat f age 41.
fought ww1
they lived 4 johns square on reg of electors 1923 . george and gabella ? 1940 voters reg .
There two children
Isabella Brock
b 13 may 1897 pery st limerick
d 1 Sept 1988 limerick
lived 4 johns square on 1950 reg of electors

have lots of other info but some family still living so cant post here .

adelaide brock
b. 23 nov 1902 Ada Annie Brock at 4 portland place .
Wed 6th oct 1924 at church of st agatha on william st .
Kevin Quinn son of henry quinn and anna or anne Seery , Henry was a fitter kevin a stereotyper for Freemans Journal

as above cant post any more info because of living kin .
have pm you let me know if you get message .

obbie your long lost cousin very distantly !
Title: Re: adelaide brock
Post by: obbie on Saturday 27 June 15 15:14 BST (UK)
should mention my comp acting the maggot so not very reliable at mo , sorry in long wait for reply but im blaming comp !
Title: Re: adelaide brock
Post by: obbie on Saturday 27 June 15 15:27 BST (UK)
john was indeed in the army
british and then limerick militia a captain
have several documents willing to share
ive his sword and discharge  enlistment papers signed by queen victoria
my grandfather was brought up in his house on clonliffe rd dublin
johns wife was spanish or at least from gibraltar still trying to research her