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Title: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: AlisonAlison on Wednesday 03 March 10 14:28 GMT (UK)
Hi
I'm trying to find out the maiden name of Hannah born 1835 who married a John Ord born 1835. They were living in Longbenton on the 1871 and 1881 censuses and both list birthplace as Northumberland.
I can't find them at all on the 1861 census and on the 1851 John is married.

Their first child James was born 1859.

Thanks,
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: stanmapstone on Wednesday 03 March 10 14:32 GMT (UK)
Have you looked for the marriage on http://freebmd.rootsweb.com/ ?

Stan
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 03 March 10 14:36 GMT (UK)
I can't find them at all on the 1861 census

In 1861 they are at RG9/3845/53/23.

Anna :)
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: AlisonAlison on Wednesday 03 March 10 14:40 GMT (UK)
Oooh will just go and have a look at that!

Thanks!
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: AlisonAlison on Wednesday 03 March 10 14:43 GMT (UK)
Am being dim here but how do you get to them with the number? I can't find anywhere that gives me the option to enter it?
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 03 March 10 14:46 GMT (UK)
Am being dim here but how do you get to them with the number? I can't find anywhere that gives me the option to enter it?

Which provider are you using?
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: AlisonAlison on Wednesday 03 March 10 14:47 GMT (UK)
findmypast
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 03 March 10 14:51 GMT (UK)
findmypast

Go into Person search for the relevant census and at the bottom left of the blue box click on census reference search.  You will then be linked through to another search box with the opportunity to enter the reference info.

for this one

Piece = 3845
Folio = 53
Page = 23
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: AlisonAlison on Wednesday 03 March 10 14:56 GMT (UK)
Thankyou! I've never used the references before.
How did you manage to find them as they've turned from Ord to Bird!
Its definately them though from the names and birth years etc.....
I'd tried every spelling of the name but not bird!
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: AlisonAlison on Wednesday 03 March 10 14:59 GMT (UK)
Stan,
Yes i've tried free bmd but only came up with one possible for 1853. I'm not convinced its them as they'd have married at 18 then had a 6 year gap before their children who all followed in fairly quick succession.
The other possible issue is that some Hannah's in the family are really Ann's so I can't work out which marriage could be theirs.
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 03 March 10 15:03 GMT (UK)
Hi
I'm trying to find out the maiden name of Hannah born 1835 who married a John Ord born 1835.

Thanks,

Wonder if it could be THOMPSON ? As Isabell is not on 1871 census with them

There’s and Isabella ORD age 10 granddaughter with her grandparents

1871 RG10/5117/81/60
Robert THOMPSON Head 55 Kirknewton, Durham Stone Mason
Eleanor                       wife  60 Earsdon, Durham
John                           son    24 No ShieldsStone Mason
Margaret HUNTER sister law 70 Newcastle widow formerly dom. Serv.

But there’s a death entry Mar q 1863 ORD Isabella Tynemouth 10b 129
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: AlisonAlison on Wednesday 03 March 10 15:11 GMT (UK)
Thanks a lot,
I'll have a look at the 1851 and see what they were up to then and if there was a Hannah living with them!!
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 03 March 10 15:12 GMT (UK)
If you get no luck with the marriage what about a birth certificate this would be another way of getting Hannah's maiden name

there's two entries  for

James ORD Sep q 1858 Tynemouth 10b 150
James ORD Jun  q 1859 Tynemouth 10b 180

and two for

Isabella ORD Sep q 1860 Tynemouth 10b 15_
Isabella ORD Dec q 1861 Tynemouth 10b 138
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: AlisonAlison on Wednesday 03 March 10 15:19 GMT (UK)
Hi,

I think i may have to do this. One of their younger sons was Samuel which is at least a bit more uncommon and I'm sure I've found his birth in September 1873: ORD  Samuel    Tynemouth  10b 213.

Thankyou!
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 03 March 10 15:19 GMT (UK)

Wonder if it could be THOMPSON ? As Isabell is not on 1871 census with them


 ???
The 1871 I'm looking at for the ORD family does have 10 yr old Isabella at home with them: RG10/5125/59/14.
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: avm228 on Wednesday 03 March 10 15:24 GMT (UK)
and on the 1851 John is married.


Are you sure? Is he not the 15 yr old at HO107/2411/10/11?
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 03 March 10 15:25 GMT (UK)
Thanks a lot,
I'll have a look at the 1851 and see what they were up to then and if there was a Hannah living with them!!

Maybe a coincidence but on

1851c HO107/2422/577/16

there's a

Hannah THOMPSON 16
Isabella THOMPSON 17

both servants

will take a look at 1841 census to see if there's a Robert, Eleanor, Hannah, Isabella & John THOMPSON together as a family
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: AlisonAlison on Wednesday 03 March 10 15:30 GMT (UK)
Sorry mistyped in my initial post. It meant to say in 1851 John was unmarried! He was living with his parents aged 15 in Longbenton!!!
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: AlisonAlison on Wednesday 03 March 10 16:24 GMT (UK)
Might try a different tactic....
Just found a Hannah born about the right time living next door with her dad William and various siblings including an Isabella. All 3 of these names seem to get used quite a lot in later generations so maybe he married the girl next door............need to investigate further though as I'm sure its not that simple!!!
Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: Ladyhawk on Wednesday 03 March 10 16:25 GMT (UK)
Quote
???
The 1871 I'm looking at for the ORD family does have 10 yr old Isabella at home with them: RG10/5125/59/14.

Oops typing error 1881  RG11/5096/17/26 :'(  When searching James ORD b1859 only 1881, 1901 & 1861 and Birth Jun q 1859 Tynemouth came top of list

Title: Re: Maiden name of Hannah Ord
Post by: AlisonAlison on Monday 15 March 10 10:27 GMT (UK)
Thanks for the help on this one.  I finally ordered a birth certificate for one of Hannah's children and she was indeed the girl next door!