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This is a big challenge if anyone is able to do it. Wanting to find out more information about a prisoner in Hull listed in the 1901 census.
Name: Frank Parkyn
Born: Sheffield
Occupation: baker
Age: 17[? - memory just gone blank]
I want to confirm or reject if this is my Grandfather so any information gathered would be great, like to know what he is in for but more to the point any reference to any family members i.e., parents, home address etc that could be a link.
I don't know anything about why he is in Hull, what he did to be put in prison or when he did the deed.
This would require looking through quite a lot of records. so here is me being optomistic ::)
PS can't do this myself as I am in the antipodes
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Before offering to look, can we do some elimination. ::)
Is there another possible Frank on the 1901? What was his occupation on the 1911? Was he only a teenager? If so, his trial can't have been long before 1901.
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Age: 17[? - memory just gone blank]
He's actually listed as 19. Census ref is RG13/4487/145/7.
Welcome to Rootschat :)
Anna
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This is what I know;
1891 Census listed as Frank Parkin born approx 1884 Sheffield, parents Wm Henry Parkin - master tailor and mother Emma and family - this fits with family knowledge.
1901 - ? not found
1911 - ? not found
1915 - Francis Joseph Parkyn [widower] married Barbara Moore [widow] in Halifax. These are my grandparents. By this time he is a house painter and decorator.
I have searched and searched and searched both census under Frank Parkin, Frank Parkyn, Francis Parkin, Francis Parkyn, Francis Joseph Parkin, Francis Joseph Parkyn, Joseph Parkin, Joseph Parkyn [he is always referred to as Joe by my grandmother].
This Frank Parkyn in prison is approx the right age, born Sheffield and breadmaker/baker - Frank Parkin's brother Frederick Wm. Parkin was a master baker and one other brother Arthur listed as baker with him, a slim connection.
Any assistance in searching and/or knowledge will be appreciated
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I don't have any credits on the 1911 to check, but I assume you've looked. But the 1911 being what it is, he could be there wrongly transcribed.
One problem is that he could have been tried and sentenced in Sheffield, which would mean the Hull court records would be no help. It might be better to contact the Sheffield Archives and ask if they can look for a case in the local papers as well as court records.
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Hi Dont know who brokentypewrighter is but you are related
William Henry came over from cork looking for work and settled in sheffield as the steel industry was taking off and wealthy business men required suits
He married Emma and had approx 10 ? children
I think they were Thomas,Lawrance,Francis,Frank,Frederick,Arthur,William,and at least three girls
Francis Joe married Barberra Moore and because she was widdowed with a son Jack Moore the family disowned him
He then changed his name and became Jo Parkyn
Hope this helps a little
Dale Parkyn
I have photos I can share with you
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Hi...On the 1911 census.....There is a Francis Parkin b. 1888 in Sheffield..a lighterman married to Mary E. born in Scarborough..Stanley 6 and John William 2
Carol
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Could be ? born about the same time
Francis was married in Sheffield ( not sure who to ) then widowed
Then moved away to knaresborough,North yorks and married my Great Gran ( widowed )
His family then disowned him for marrying a lady with young child ( Jack Moore )died in Italy 1942
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Hello Yorkshiredale, we are related your father is my cousin. You went to visit my mother in K'boro.
I have a family tree on GenesReunited which you can have a look at if you are are with them. Would love to exchange information and see the photographs you have.
Francis Joseph Parkyn was born Frank Parkin at 15 Paradise Square, Sheffield on 28th February 1883 [b.cert]. His first wife was Emily Hoare [DOB 1890], they married 2nd August 1909 at St. Marys Church [RC] Bradford, he is recorded as Francis Joseph Parkin, living in Bradford. Emily died in childbirth.
Emily Hoare's family are painters and paperhangers in Bradford so I imagine he was working there [with them?] when he met her. If you know the child's name I would love to know, I have had conflicting information from Mum [a boy, Leonard] and from an Uncle [a girl?].
He later met and married Barbara Moore on 24th April 1915 in Halifax. On this certificate he is recorded as Francis Joseph Parkyn, living at Nydd Vale Terrace in Harrogate.
FJ's siblings were:
Herbert [dob 1869]
Rose Ellen [1870]
Fredrick Wm [1972]
Emma [1873]
Harry [1875]
Jenny [1878]
Arthur [1880]
Florence 1881]
Frank (FJ) [1883]
Ethel [1887]
Beatrice [1889]
plus two possible others who died at 15 Paradise Sq not confirmed their parentage Henry Wm & Blanche.
FJ's father, Wm Henry Parkin [DOB 1846 Sheffield] married Emma Smith [DOB 1848 Sheffield] in 1868.
Wm H's siblings were:
Mary Anna [1839]
Elizabeth [1841]
Harriott [1843]
Wm H. [1846]
Frederick Fenney [1849]
Jane [1851]
Thomas [1853]
Emma [1858]
Wm H's parents were Joseph Parkin [Tailor] [DOB 1811 Sheffield] and Jane Fenney [DOB 1811, Sheffield died 1901]. Married 1837 the m.cert shows Joseph's father is William Parkin - Cutler and Jane Fenney's father is Josiah Fenney - Silver Smith.
It was FJ who wanted to move to K'boro after he married Barbara Moore, who had four children Leonard [1905 - 1907] Sarah Emma [1907], Annie Beatrice [1909] and Jack Warner [1912 - 1944], their father Walter Warner Moore was killed working electric crane Tuesday May 12, 1914, Ontario Canada. FJ's parents were dead by this time but Frederick Wm & family came to visit, and FJ often visited his sisters in Cleethorps, tho' the family ties were not as close as the Parker side of the family.
Mum and I visited Sheffield while I was in England, we went to Paradise Sq and then to City Rd Cemetery to see the graves of Joseph, Jane and Frederick Fenney Parkin [all in one plot] and Wm Henry, Emma [wife], Stanley [son of Frederick Wm.] Henry Wm and Blanche [all in one plot]. I have photos which I can email. I have your email address, and will give it a try [Mum gave it to me knowing you too were investigating]
cheers
Barbara
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Hi Barbera
Thanks for the information it has helped me greatly x
Hope to speak soon
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Hello from Yorkshire Annie Beatrice born at Brighouse to Walter warner moore and Barbara moore was my gran I have some info and lots of photos on this part of the family
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It was FJ who wanted to move to K'boro after he married Barbara Moore, who had four children Leonard [1905 - 1907] Sarah Emma [1907], Annie Beatrice [1909] and Jack Warner [1912 - 1944], their father Walter Warner Moore was killed working electric crane Tuesday May 12, 1914, Ontario Canada.
Hi Barbara,
Walter Warner Moore was my Great Grandfather, Jack had a son David who is my Dad.
Scratching my head about Walters demise - how did you dig up the details? Also wondering where the middle name Warner came from? Jack carried the same middle name as did my father and myself and my brothers. Would be nice to figure out where that came from. Do you have any photos of Barbara or by chance Walter.
Sure we are related but not going to try and figure it out - probably a few times removed.
Thanks for any help you can give.
Best wishes
Andrew
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Hello from Yorkshire Annie Beatrice born at Brighouse to Walter warner moore and Barbara moore was my gran I have some info and lots of photos on this part of the family
Hi
Walter was my great grandfather and Jack my grandfather so we a cousins a few times removed. Would love to know if you have any photos of Barbara or Walter or of my Grandfathers sisters.
Thanks for any help.
Andrew Warner Moore
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Hi Andrew,
I have several photographs of Barbara and I can get copies of photos of Walter and Barbara which were taken before he left for Canada, there is also a picture of him with his brother and father.
Walter went ahead to Canada with his father, mother and brother, Barbara and the children were to follow later, but he was, as you have read, killed.
I do not know where the Warner name came from, I know the family farmed in Droyslenden, Lancs but I have not followed his line much further. Would you like me to email the copies of photos rather than post them here?
Cheers
Barbara