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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: DarrenMW on Tuesday 02 March 10 06:14 GMT (UK)
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Owen Clegg
b. Huddersfield, England 1830
d. Granville, NSW, Australia. 29th August 1896
parents: Joesph and Elizabeth Clegg, Huddersfield, England
Transported as convict on the ship 'Ramillies' arriving Fremantle August 1854
Released from prison 1857 (Perth/Fremantle)
Moved to NSW in 16th June 1873
any information about his post-convict marriage, children, employment, addresses is politely solicited.
Many thanks!
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From NSW BMDs, no new informatin though -
1896 CLEGG Owen, parents Joseph Elizabeth, death registered at GRANVILLE No 9981
Couldn't see a marriage for him in NSW
http://www.bdm.nsw.gov.au/familyHistory/search.htm
Judith
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http://members.iinet.net.au/~perthdps/convicts/conwad13.htm
here is a starter.
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Thank you kindly, Judith.
I have the Death details and am going to order his death cert in the hopes of next of kin are documented.
He would've been a hard ridden 43 when arriving in NSW in 1873 having been freed in WA in 1857, he may well have married in his 16 years of freedom in WA.
Hoping he'll show up on a census somewhere ???
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Thank you very much for your reply 'seyshell'
I was fortunate enough to find that 'Ramillies' passenger list earlier today. What an wonderful insight it is!
I followed Clegg from that list to the Fremantle prison site, which lists all convicts received there.
It is from there that I saw he was released in 1857 (allowed to work for himself) and given his ticket of leave in 1859.
He left WA for NSW in 1873.
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Just book marking so I get notification of any answers on here ;)
I helped find him and the other Cleggs on another post.
Trish :)
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No kidding Trish....you've been a sensation in this whole Owen Clegg drama! One minute I have him as living at home aged 24 in Yorkshire,England and a year later he is transported to Australia and we are lucky enough to
a) Find his details on the ship 'Ramillies'
b) Find his prison record for Fremantle prison, giving release date and NSW clue.
c) Find his death in NSW 1896
:o
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You may know this already but Owen is buried at Rookwood
http://rookwoodcemetery.com.au/search-online.html
An email to them would tell you if anyone is buried with him
Annie
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Thank you Annie, I did NOT know that.
That is a wonderful lead indeed!
I am staggered by the ingenuity of some of your folks when it comes to getting answers.
Thank you again, Annie!
edit: i just registered and searched and it gives me his date of passing too (29th August 1896).....excellent!......
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My pleasure ;D
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Judith has checked NSW but I can't see a marriage in WA either
Annie
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I'll have to see if I get any reply from emailing the Rookwood ???
I am also ordering his Death cert, which may help, although it's looking less likely that he married.
I keep coming back to the very specific date of moving from WA to NSW..16th June 1873...I find is odd that a modern prison site has such specific info on a man released 16 years before that date.
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Checking the Rookwood lists now (entering surname Clegg, and going thru the alphabet with 'first name' initials)
Already hit a few.....I'm trying to match rows/areas now....exciting stuff!
update: see a couple of possibles (i.e. Eliza Clegg d.1907) but grave number isn't the same? Not sure if goes by actual grave # or by plot # (which isn't shown)
Owen Clegg is buried in grave 202 in the Anglican section.
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stumbling block....they don't have email at that Rookwood Cemetery
only phone contact numbers or regular postal mail >:(
http://rookwoodcemetery.com.au/contact-us.html
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2.35 am here.....I really need to get to bed.
thank you all, but esp Trish, for your wonderful help.
I'll be back in a few short hours..I'm hooked! ;D
Darren
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If you are really lucky I will go out there for you ;D
I live abt 15k away.
Good night, sleep well.
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HA!...I just now see this post hidden on page 2!
That is amazing that you live so close, and that you are such a sweet person that you may go visit there for MY research at some stage!
:o
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Hi Trish!
acording to a newspaper clipping I saw from Nov 1875, Owen Clegg may have been working for the A.A. Company in Warrah, NSW (nr Tamworth?).
There is a record of an Owen Clegg playing in the annual A.A Company 'washers' versus 'shearers' cricket match - amazing!
No proof it's 'my' guy who moved to NSW in 1873, but it has potential as he worked in the wool/textile trade in England.
Plus he was an Englishman on the losing side of a cricket match in Australia... that's a dead giveaway there! :(
Hope all is well....kindest regards
Darren