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Title: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Betty S on Monday 01 March 10 05:35 GMT (UK)
I am trying to find some info. on the above couple. I have John's Death Cert. He died in Melbourne Vic.1913. On the cert. it states he was a Sargeant Major, Drill Instructor, but I haven't been able to find anything in NAA. He was born in Gatton Qld in 1871 and his parents were John Skinner, Railway employee, and Agnes Fleming.They came to Melb. around 1900,and they had 4 children, only one survived, Jack Benjamin Skinner, who was born in 1905 in Ballarrat, Vic.

TIA, Betty Sheather
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: cando on Monday 01 March 10 06:08 GMT (UK)
Australian Electoral Roll
1903
SKINNER John  Stawell   Drill instructor
SKINNER Mary Emma   Stawell   HD

1909
SKINNER John Moore Street, Ararat   Soldier
SKINNER  Mary Emma  Moore Street, Ararat  HD

Cando
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Betty S on Monday 01 March 10 06:19 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that very quick reply,,Cando! I looked on Ancestry electoral rolls, but they were from the 1930's......Betty S
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: sparrett on Monday 01 March 10 06:21 GMT (UK)
No t sure if you were looking for her birth in QLD

In 1873 Mary Emma Crow. Father Benjamin. Mother Ann Pilbeam reg. 1316

Sue
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: cando on Monday 01 March 10 06:23 GMT (UK)
There was the Victorian Militia -   Perhaps it was a member of this 'army'.  I suggest you google for a time line for the Victoria Militia.

Cando

Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: sparrett on Monday 01 March 10 06:34 GMT (UK)
Hi

On the ship FUSELIER. 14 Aug 1864 IMM/112 219 Z1957 M1696 to QLD

CROW

Benjamin aged 30
Ann aged 30
Ann E aged 4
Charles aged  1
John P.aged 2
Mary aged 20

Sue

Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: sparrett on Monday 01 March 10 06:40 GMT (UK)
free bmd uk shows their probable marriage

Mar 1/4 1859 at Kensington 1a 104 Ann PILBEAM same page BENJAMIN CROW.

http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Sue
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Betty S on Monday 01 March 10 06:47 GMT (UK)
This is just great, Sparrett! THANKS so much! it must be wonderful to be able to find all this info. so quickly...I ahve been trying for months!!!! Betty S
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: sparrett on Monday 01 March 10 06:53 GMT (UK)


Hi Betty

In 1866   Skinner,John married Fleming,Agnes reg.1593

https://www.bdm.qld.gov.au/IndexSearch/queryEntry.m?type=births

By searching the above bmd website for QLD, you will see about 8 births to this couple including JOHN in 1871.

Sue

Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Betty S on Monday 01 March 10 08:24 GMT (UK)
Once again, Many Thanks! Betty S :-*
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Dundee on Monday 01 March 10 09:45 GMT (UK)
Mentions here of Sergeant Major SKINNER, drill instructor of Queensland, and of the 7th Regiment Ballarat.

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/4872356?searchTerm=%22sergeant%20major%20skinner%22

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/5097028?searchTerm=%22sergeant%20major%20skinner%22

http://trove.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/article/10163347?searchTerm=%22sergeant%20major%20skinner%22

Debra
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Betty S on Monday 01 March 10 09:58 GMT (UK)
Thanks Dundee! That is great....I haven't seen that site before...Thanks again Betty S
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: sparrett on Monday 01 March 10 10:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Betty,
Are you able to tell us of the other children to John & Mary Emma Skinner.
I do understand they sadly did not live long, but knowing their birth and death places may be helpful in tracking the family.
Sue
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Betty S on Monday 01 March 10 10:28 GMT (UK)
Thanks again for your help...The only one to survive is Jacbenjamin Skinner, he was born in Ballarat in 1905, and married Edna Floence Thomas in 1928. They apparently had 2 daughters...these are the ones I can't find:  June Regina Skinner,born 1929 and Myee Jacqueline,1930.

This search started all because I found Jack Be jamin was step -son of  my Uncle Will Macleod ( his wife Mary Emma Crow/Skinner),died in 1952 and he and Mary Emma had no children of their own.
So TIA    Betty S
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: randall_goddard on Wednesday 07 September 16 17:58 BST (UK)
I know what happened to Myee Jacquelyn Skinner, she married twice and died in Melbourne 1987.
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Jamjar on Wednesday 07 September 16 23:34 BST (UK)
Welcome to Rootschat, Randall

It would be useful if you could provide the marriage information. I have listed the death below.

Jamjar


I know what happened to Myee Jacquelyn Skinner, she married twice and died in Melbourne 1987.

Death:

1987 11461  Myee Jacquline White age 56; parents John Benjamin Skinner and Edna Thomas; place of birth Holbook NSW; place of death Rye, Vic.
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Betty S on Wednesday 07 September 16 23:39 BST (UK)
Thanks for your reply, Randall....
I wonder if you can clear up another query....when I looked at John Ben WW2 records there seems to be 2 enlistments of J B Skinner. one is born in Port Pirrie and the other in Ballarat....I had been told "our" John B was born in B'rat....the 2 birth dates are also very close....so are there 2 J B Skinners?
(could'nt get much info. from war records as they have not been examined yet)...perhaps they are cousins?
Regrds
Betty S
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: cando on Wednesday 07 September 16 23:53 BST (UK)
Betty I wonder where you found there are two John Benjamin SKINNERS enlisted in WW2.

Nothing here but your John born 1905 Ballarat with NOK Edna.
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/
http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=584721

or http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/search/index.aspx

Possibly I have somehow missed it.

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: cando on Wednesday 07 September 16 23:55 BST (UK)
Ah...it is Jack Benjamin SKINNER born Port Pirie, SA with NOK Cornelia

http://www.ww2roll.gov.au/Veteran.aspx?serviceId=A&veteranId=701708

Cando
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 September 16 00:23 BST (UK)
Australian Electoral Rolls
1954
LEACH Clifford Malcolm  Myrtleford  Grower
LEACH Myee Jacqueline  Myrtleford  HD
and
LEACH Clifford Malcolm 8 Richmond Terrace, Richmond  Mechanic
LEACH Myee Jacqueline 8 Richmond Terrace, Richmond  HD

1958
LEACH Myee Jacqueline 3 Rowell Street, East Morwell  HD

1963, 1967, 1968
WHITE Edward George N, 3 Rowell Street,  Morwell  Rigger
WHITE Myee Jacqueline 3 Rowell Street,  Morwell  HD

1972
SNELL Myee Jacqueline  38 Grenville Grove, Rosebud  HD

1977
WHITE Myee Jacqueline  41 Woyna Avenue, Rosebud  HD

1980
WHITE Myee Jacqueline 70 First Avenue, Rosebud  HD

Cando

Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 September 16 00:26 BST (UK)
PROV Wills and Admon Index
http://prov.vic.gov.au/index_search?searchid=54

WHITE Edward George Nelson  Retired Rigger, Morwell  31 Oct 1998    

Cando
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 September 16 00:29 BST (UK)
Myee's cremation record at Springvale Botanical Cemetery

http://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/519412

Cando
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Betty S on Thursday 08 September 16 00:34 BST (UK)
Wow! Cando....you are incredible! , so much info. in such a short time!!!

I will take a good look at whta you have sent me.....
 Thanks again
Betty S
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 08 September 16 01:10 BST (UK)
Well shoot, I'm feeling left out in the thanks dept.  ;) ;D

Jamjar
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 September 16 01:40 BST (UK)
Link to search for Victorian BDM's with deaths to 1988.

https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/indexsearch.doj

Cando
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 September 16 02:04 BST (UK)
Quote
June Regina Skinner,born 1929

This lady born 1929

http://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/557430

Cando
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 September 16 02:11 BST (UK)
Her husband - on the electoral roll his occupation was Tailor
http://smct.org.au/deceasedsearch/result/447609

From my resource

Death
CROXSON Stanley
Father Wotherinton  Mother Ray BROUGH
At Ferntree Gully  63 years  1980  Reg#01338

Cando



Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 September 16 02:14 BST (UK)
Death of a son

CROXSON Douglas William
Father Stanley  Mother June Regina
At Prahran  30 years  1981  Reg#12041

Cando


Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Betty S on Thursday 08 September 16 03:17 BST (UK)
Oh!!!Jamjar, my apologies!!!! I think I thanked Randall instead of you! 
Mea culpa!
Betty S
PS I was getting so much info. so fast that when I went to reply there were more  messages coming in!
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Jamjar on Thursday 08 September 16 04:05 BST (UK)
Oh!!!Jamjar, my apologies!!!! I think I thanked Randall instead of you! 
Mea culpa!
Betty S
PS I was getting so much info. so fast that when I went to reply there were more  messages coming in!

I forgive you, Betty S.  ;D ;D  ;D

Jamjar
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: cando on Thursday 08 September 16 05:27 BST (UK)
Probate file at PROV
COXSON June Regina   Widow  Ferntree Gully   11 Nov 1990

Cando
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: judb on Thursday 08 September 16 06:00 BST (UK)
free bmd uk shows their probable marriage
Mar 1/4 1859 at Kensington 1a 104 Ann PILBEAM same page BENJAMIN CROW.
http://www.freebmd.org.uk/cgi/search.pl

Further to Sue's marriage find:
 Marriage at Christ Church, Paddington, January 30, 1859, by banns
Benjamin CROW, bachelor, gardener, father: Charles CROW, coachman
Ann PILBEAM, spinster, father: Thomas PILBEAM, gunsmith
Both signed, both of full age, both living at Cleveland Mews,
Witnesses: Ch's CROW, Sophia ???

1841 Census, at Brunswick Mews,
Charles Crow   35, male servant
Charles Crow   12
Benjamin Crow   7
Priscilla Crow   35
Elizabeth Crow   5
Emma Crow   1 Mo

Judith

Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: randall_goddard on Tuesday 13 September 16 16:37 BST (UK)
Hi

Myee Jacqueline /Skinner/ Leach /Snell/ White on born 22 Jul 1931 Holbrook NSW

 
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: Betty S on Tuesday 13 September 16 23:24 BST (UK)
Thanks for that info. Randall,......this is a very interesting family......I only started looking into them because of the Macleod connections...
Betty S
Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: sparrett on Wednesday 14 September 16 00:20 BST (UK)
randall_goddard

New contributors are always welcome on Rootschat.
However in giving the details of the people in your post above, you have seriously  violated the privacy to which they are entitled by law and by the policy of the forum.

You need to use the modify button on your post when you are signed in and remove the names.

A moderator as been notified.

Sue

EDIT
Post containing the information has now been modified.  See below.

Title: Re: Mary Emma CROW /John SKINNER
Post by: dawnsh on Wednesday 14 September 16 00:41 BST (UK)
Hi randall_goddard

Welcome to Rootschat  ;D

New members are encouraged to take a moment to read our guidelines for posting here

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The information you posted has been edited in accordance with our policies as you may not be back online here in time to edit your own post. You can exchange information of a sensitive/private/recent nature off-forum on our personal message system as your post count is now high enough.

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Hope this helps.

Dawn