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Title: Lawlor
Post by: j r on Thursday 25 February 10 23:23 GMT (UK)

Any informatin on a John Lawlor dob approx 1890 Manchester area,lived in Ireland
 and returned to U K approx 1929.

Title: Re: Lawlor
Post by: CaroleW on Friday 26 February 10 00:13 GMT (UK)

Are you looking for info post 1929

Title: Re: Lawlor
Post by: j r on Sunday 28 February 10 10:02 GMT (UK)

Hi Carol.
I am looking for information from period for John Lawlor.
He was my maternal grandfather and remains a mystery man.
We only know that he was in the army and may have served in Ireland during the war of independance 1918 1921,he may have met my gran during this period
and decided to stay on.
As i can not find a marriage cert for them i am finding it difficult to go any
further in my searh for John.
Regards
Jim.

Title: Re: Lawlor
Post by: j r on Sunday 28 February 10 10:05 GMT (UK)

Sorry Carol, That should be for any period.

Regards,
Jim.

Title: Re: Lawlor
Post by: CaroleW on Sunday 28 February 10 20:59 GMT (UK)

Freebmd only has one birth in Manchester for that name around that birthyear 

Births December qtr 1888 
 
John Thomas Lawlor    Salford  8d 99

Can you tell us everything you know about him please as it may help

1891 census for 21 Caygill St Salford - all children are grandchildren.  Mary Ellen cannot be the dtr of James given his age.  Indexed as Lukeman

Ellen Lukeman 62 widow b Ireland
Ann Lukeman 26 dtr unmarried b Ireland
James Lawlor 22 b Ireland son in law
Norah   24 b Ireland dtr
Mary Ellen   7 b Hulme
John 2 b Salford
James 3 weeks  b Salford
Norah 3 weeks  b Salford
RG12 Piece 3216 Folio 43 Page 39

Marriages March qtr 1888 
 
James Lawlor   Salford  8d 150a   
Honora Loughman 

Births March qtr 1884   

Lukeman  Mary Ellen     Chorlton  8c 872

Title: Re: Lawlor
Post by: j r on Monday 01 March 10 08:19 GMT (UK)

Hi Carol
Thanks again for your help in my quest.
John Lawlor married Mary Teresa Magee or Mc Gee all the children were baptised
in Francis st church in Dublin,however no marriage record can be found from 1919 to1924.
There may be a suggestion that they married in England.
The children are all named Lawlor and this suggests that they were married.
Regards.
Jim.

Title: Re: Lawlor
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 01 March 10 08:38 GMT (UK)

There are 28 marriages for 'John Lawlor' in Co. Dublin 1910-1929. Have they all been ruled out?

Title: Re: Lawlor
Post by: j r on Monday 01 March 10 19:11 GMT (UK)

Hi Aghadowey.
Can you please forward on a site,i tried your suggestion for BDM site yesterday
but could not get a connection to the site.
Are any of these John Lawlors married to a Mary Magee.
Thanks again for your help.
Regards.
Jim.

Title: Re: Lawlor
Post by: aghadowey on Monday 01 March 10 22:15 GMT (UK)

Index to civil registrations is online (free)-
http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=collectionDetails

Put in only first and last name in search boxes and then when results appear use links towards upper left side of page to narrow down results (place=Dublin, for dates click 1910-1919 + 1920-1929).

Title: Re: Lawlor
Post by: j r on Tuesday 02 March 10 05:34 GMT (UK)

Thanks again for all your help,im on the road early today but will give that site a go
tonight.
I did get a match in family search site but when i went down to Abbey Street
i got a blank result for the same period.
This match of names and the same date has to be their marriage.
Ill keep you and Carol posted.
Thanks again Yall.
Jim.

Title: Re: Lawlor
Post by: j r on Tuesday 02 March 10 21:25 GMT (UK)

I had a good look onthe site but could not find that match,can i do an all Ireland
search,or is it county by county.
Regards.
Jim.

Title: Re: Lawlor
Post by: aghadowey on Tuesday 02 March 10 21:52 GMT (UK)

The Irish civil index covers all counties in Ireland and if you don't select a place (county) it will give results from all counties.

Title: Re: Lawlor
Post by: j r on Wednesday 03 March 10 05:23 GMT (UK)

Thanks again.
I will give it a go tonight.
Regards.
Jim