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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => London & Middlesex Lookup Requests => London and Middlesex => England => London & Middlesex Completed Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Rose Y on Thursday 25 February 10 15:51 GMT (UK)
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Would somebody please be kind enough to do a 1851 Peckham (Camberwell) look up for me please?
I am looking for a HARRIS family who may have been living at 2 Basing Yard, Peckham High Street, Camberwell at that time. Thank you. Rose
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any first names or birthplaces,birth years etc?
there are 168 harris entries in camberwell in 1851
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Hi Wozzle,
Thank you for a quick response. I have a Samuel Harris who was born at the above address at the end of April 1851 (a month after the census take). His father was also Samuel and mother Mary Ann. I am trying to further my family tree. Thank you.
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this is the only one in camberwell that fits in anyway
HO107/1581/folio missing/18
samuel harris age 34. b. trowbridge. occ. housekeeper. head
mary age 32. b. kingston or kingsland. wife
phoebe age 8. b. hackney. daughter
mary age 6. b. ditto. daughter
sarah age 2. b. ditto.
living at; baring yard,st.giles,camberwell.
do you have your family on 1861 census?
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i have found them in 1861 and the father says born wiltshire and mother says born hackney
kingsland is in hackney
they also have a daughter mary aged 17 born hackney
so definitely think the 1851 is yours
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p.s. do you want me to try and go further back and forward with the family
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Hi Wozzle,
Thank you for the look up. That is the correct family. Yes, I have found them previously on the 1861.
Cheers.
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Hello Again Wozzle,
It would be appreciated if you could look for me to see if they are registered on the 1841 census. Hopefully, if they are, I might be able to add a new sibling for my tree. I do have the 1861 etc.
Regards, Rose.
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will have a look for you
mick
do you know when they actually married or marys maiden name?
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Wozzle,
Thanks. Samuel Harris was actually born 1810 in Trowbridge. Samuel married Mary Jeramy (various spellings) in March 1841. The certificate gives Samuel as a widower and Mary a spinster.
I have early census information re the Jeramy/Jerramy etc. family. Mary was born c1821.
However, I do not know the name and details of Samuel's first wife.
Thank you. Rose
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the 1841 census was taken on the 6th june so hopefully they should be together possibly in hackney area
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internet playing up
shame because there is a possibility there is full details of the baptism of their first child and that would give us where they were living at the time
will try to-morrow if no one else has had a look
have to go to work shortly
mick
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Morning Wozzle,
I look forward to hearing from you in due course. Thanks.
Best wishes, Rose
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phobe harris daughter of samuel/mary ann harris baptised on the 25th dec 1842 at st.john church,hackney
abode at time of baptism; morning lane,hackney. fathers occ; labourer
here is phobes actual birth index entry
phoebe harris
y.o.r. 1842
qtr; oct/nov/dec
dist; hackney
vol; 3
page; 152
i cannot see the other 2 childrens baptisms though in hackney
although i can see what i believe may be their birth index entries in hackney
strange i cannot find their baptisms though
anyway we know they were living in morning lane,hackney in 1842
will see if i can now find the family in 1841
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here they are in 1841
transcribed as harrif
1841
HO107/698/6/6/4.
samuel harris age 30. occ. housekeeper. born out of county
mary harris age 24. born in county
living at;bohemia place,st.johns,hackney
so sometime between 1841 and 1842 they moved from bohemia place to morning lane
the only doubt i have is that on this census samuel gives occ; as housekeeper
on the 1851 census he again gives occ as housekeeper
yet on the baptismal record occ is down as labourer
i am certain this is them on 1841 and as certain the baptism is the correct phoebe as well
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Hello Wozzle,
Again, thanks for the look-ups.
I confirm that the baptism you found for Phoebe is correct. I think there is a mistranscription in the 1841 and "house keeper" should have read "horse keeper". Is it possible you have not been able to find the baptism records for Phoebe's siblings because the family moved between 1841 and 1842 and may have been out of the St John's Hackney parish? The next child I have on my tree is Phoebe's sister, Mary Ann born c1844. Information taken from the 1861 census.
Have a nice evening. Regards, Rose
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yes but on the census it says mary and sarah are both born in hackney and i think i have found their birth indexes and both were regd in hackney?
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Hi Wozzle,
Yes, you are correct.
Thank you very much for all your time and the information found.
Regards, Rose
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more info if you do not have it
christening
name; samuel harris
date; 2/6/1811
age at christening 1year
place; trowbridge,wiltshire
parents; samuel/phoebe harris
ext.rec. I.G.I.
seeing as your samuel named his first child phoebe
think there is a good chance this is yours
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will come back in 30mins to see if there is anything further i can find
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think this may be samuels parents marriage
samuel harris/phoebe purnell
date;21st may 1809
place; trowbridge,wiltshire
ext.rec. I.G.I
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as far as i can find samuel only had 1 sibling
mary harris christened on the 5th aug 1812 at trowbridge,wiltshire parents samuel/phoebe harris
there of course might have been other siblings christened elsewhere other than trowbridge
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think this may be samuels parents marriage
samuel harris/phoebe purnell
date;21st may 1809
place; trowbridge,wiltshire
ext.rec. I.G.I
and here is a possible christening of phoebe
phoebe purnell daughter of john/betty purnell christened on the 25/3/1788 at sherston magna,wiltshire
ext.rec.
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and here is a possible marriage of phoebe's parents
if this was them then it means phoebe was conceived and born out of wedlock
this is only a submitted entry though
john purnell/betty gardiner
date; 12th may 1778 at sherston magna,wiltshire
as i said this is only a submitted entry so the date might be well out
think this is as far back as i can go
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Wow. Thank you Wozzle. Such a lot of information for me to digest and then update my tree with. Sorry it has taken me a while to get back to you. We have a family computer sited in the living room that we share.
Again, thank you very much. Appreciated.
Rose