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Ireland (Historical Counties) => Ireland => Cork => Topic started by: Ringoroses on Wednesday 24 February 10 08:40 GMT (UK)
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I know for sure my Finucane's came from Cork but have no idea which parish. With a name like that, and the fragments of information I have about them, what are my chances of narrowing them down?
Here's what I have:
James Finucane (born Cork c1829) moved to Liverpool in the late 1840s. He appears to have brought his mother Catherine (born c1800), and younger brother Timothy (born c1831) with him. He was married to Ann Moran (born c1830) of Sligo (can't find a marriage reg here, so presumably in Ireland somewhere c1849). They had several children - Cornelius, John, Margaret, Mary Ann and Catherine - all apparently born after they moved over to Liverpool. (I have information on the kids after that) James, Timothy and Cornelius were all tailors.
And that's pretty much it, all gleaned from the post '51 census's. How can I find out more?
Regards
Ann
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Ann,
According to Griffith's Valuation the Finucane's in Cork came from either the Civil Parish of Kilmeen or the Civil Parish of St. Annes Shandon. There were no other parishes in Cork that had Finucanes living in Cork at that time, that is around 1851.
John...Sydney
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Thanks, that narrow's it down significantly.
;D
Ann
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The Mallow Heritage centre has some Finucane baptisms in their database - but be aware that they only cover the northern part of the county.
http://corknortheast.brsgenealogy.com/index.php?&set=yes
Also, whilst John has only found two parishes listed in Griffith's Valuation, that doesn't rule out there being others elsewhere, as the valuation was primarily concerned with who held land. As your family were tailors, there's a greater chance that they were in a town and didn't hold any particular land so may not appear on Griffith's.
R
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Good point, thanks.
Will take a look at that link and see if anything leaps out at me ;)
Ann
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Re what's in Griffith's Valuation.Unlike the earlier Tithes Surveys which only listed those who had some land,GV lists all occupiers of houses as well as land.Towns as well as rural areas are included.In the larger towns many people lived in lodgings or tenements where the only name listed would be that of the owner or leaseholder,but in all other cases even those in rented cottages and small houses with no land are included.
Re Finucane-if family lived in Kilmeen area this is near the town of Clonakilty in west Cork and the parish records are not online at IFHF site-www.brsgenealogy.com.
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Ann,
Further to luimneach reply which I toatally agree with, I had another look at the Griffith's valuation for Finucane in Co. Cork and indeed it appears they only came from two places.
There was....
Cornellius Finucane, snr and Jnr, John Finucane Snr and Jnr ,Michael and Thomas Finucane all from the Parish of Kilmeen in the townland of Glentanefinnane.
In the Civil Parish of St.Annes Shandon there was...
Matt Finucane, Shandon Street,
Matthew Finucane, Philpot's Lane
Matthew Finucane, Shandon Street
Thomas Finucane, Shandon Street
These were the only ones which I could find in all of Co. Cork.
John...Sydney
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Ann,
As a matter of interest there was an Edward Moran from Parish of St. Anne's Shandon , Wellington Street.
Could be interesting.
John...Sydney
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Hi John and Lumineach,
Thanks for both for your interest.
And thanks for clarifying the GV for me Lumineach.
John,Given the traditional naming patterns, Cornelius's in Kilmeen looked very promising to me when I looked - but it never even occurred to me to look for Morans. Now I'm thinking both parishes look possible.
Thanks again both of you. Some interesting leads to follow.
Ann
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In the 1911 census of Ireland, there were only 31 Finucane’s in the whole of the county of Cork, seemingly split over 11 households.
1 lived in a convent in Queenstown - a 20 year old nun called Bride Finucane (no chance of descendents there then!)
1 was a retired accountant called George Finucane, from Ennis
1 was a Finucane kid called Kate, a grandchild staying with a family of Sweeny’s in Barley Hill.
5 were in a family of 5 Finucane’s with a Sweeny staying with them (so I guess they were related to the kid above!) in the Newmarket area.
1 was a Finucane called Frank, a visitor from England in a household of O’Brian’s,
9 of them lived in 3 households in the same district of Kilmeen as the Finucane’s in the Griffiths Valuation – Glentanefinnane
6 of them were a family of Finucanes living in New Street, Newmarket.
6, were a family of Finucanes living in the Inchantotane area of Clonfert East.
1 was a widow called Abina Finucane, living alone in Inchantotane – probably related to the family above.
What’re the chances the descendents of some of those very few groups are still there and were related to my lot?
Ann
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there may be some variations and transcript errors on the census that you should probably consider - e.g. there a a number of listings transcribed as Finncane, yet some of the forms for these I looked at seemed to actually read Finucane.
Shane
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Thanks for reminding me of those Shane - of course their will be. Thought it was too good to be true ;)
Ann
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Ann,
This is the only the second time I have visited this site in 6 months and by co incidence the first thing I stumbled upon was your request for information.
I have James Finucane b c 1829 d 03/1873 in Lancashire and indeed married to Anne Moran. He came from Mallow in County Cork. James was the son of Cornelius Finucane and Catherine Sullivan.
I have tree information concerning this branch of the family should you be interested. I suggest you email me at (*) if you want me to send it
Regards
Danny
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