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Title: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: trisholdham on Wednesday 24 February 10 02:41 GMT (UK)
Henry Pearsall born 1865 or 1866 in Upperswinford Worcestershire, father George Pearsall, mother Mirah Brown. immigrated between 1881 and 1891 census to Australia, can any one help me please in finding him in Australia.
Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: judb on Thursday 25 February 10 00:56 GMT (UK)
Cannot see him on immigration lists for Victoria or NSW.  Nothing in NSW BMDs.

Not in Assisted Qld immigration (there is a PEARSAL family John 38, Margaret 38, and 3 chn arriving 1886 and a Lomar PEARSALL, b abt 1865 arriving 1887).  Nothing on Qld BMDs

Do you have any idea which Sate he may have come to?

Judith
Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: Ron Lankshear on Thursday 25 February 10 01:24 GMT (UK)
Well looking at Ancestry.com.au I can see nothing like him in Aust.
A William Henry in Electoral Rolls in Tasmania from 1914 on

Anyhow I tried to check if he had middle fore names but could not find a birth and looking at George and Mirah family in 1871 no sign of a Henry. And I am not finding Henry or George or Mirah  in 1881 - or Francis or Walter. Did they all go to Australia.

Is it sure Australia - could he have gone to USA or Canada
Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Thursday 25 February 10 01:30 GMT (UK)
No Death found in VIC to 1985, SA to 1972, TAS to 1930, WA & QLD to 1964...
Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: trisholdham on Friday 26 February 10 06:27 GMT (UK)
Hi all,
Thanks for having a look for me, he did go to Melbourne and then landed up in NSW, but some where in between he changed his name to Henry (Harry)Tremaine. I could never find him coming out to Australia but on his death certificate in 1901  in Sydney age 34 his father was George Tremaine and mother Myrah Brown born in Staffordshire. On his first sons birth certificate he says he comes from Worcestershire. There was a Terrible murder in 1888 in Upperswinford Worcestershire of George Pearsall killing his wife Harriett, I think this was his Grandfather. To make things more complicated George Pearson not Pearsall married Mirah Brown in 1859, I think the murder in the family made him change his name, but I have no proof of this. I have found Harry Pearsall in the 1881 census age 16 a spade maker, father George Pearsall mother Myra with his brother and sisters.
Thanks again for looking for him coming to Australia.
Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: seyshell on Friday 26 February 10 06:32 GMT (UK)
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I know the surname is different, but it could "sound" like Pearsall. Just a thought from left field

Michelle
Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: cando on Friday 26 February 10 06:41 GMT (UK)

Thanks for having a look for me, he did go to Melbourne and then landed up in NSW, but some where in between he changed his name to Henry (Harry)Tremaine.

May I ask how you know he went to Melbourne and then NSW?

Cheers
Cando
Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: Ron Lankshear on Friday 26 February 10 08:19 GMT (UK)
Ah I see the 1901 death
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hence he was known as George H
I suppose this is his birth
George Henry Pearsall 1864 Sep Stourbridge 6c 181   

But I still cannot find him in 1871 (I see the parents as Pearsall) or 1881 census or the parents in 1881. I have tried many searches including with spade*. What name are they using?

Looking at Ancestry Australia data I have tried Henry and George with PEARSALL PEARSON and TREMAINE and nothing re Aust

perhaps the Parslow 1887 record makes sense
there is also Henry Parslow abt 1867 16 Plymouth to Sydney, New South Wales 14 Dec 1883 Rialto
Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: judb on Friday 26 February 10 12:09 GMT (UK)
There are two Funeral notices for Cecilia on the NLA's digitised newspaper site - Sydney Morning Herald, 13 March 1894

http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home

There is a digitised record of George Henry TREMAINE's service in WW1.  Birthdate given as 27 June 1899 at Annandale (suburb of Sydney). His mother, Matilda gave consent as he was less than 21.

http://www.naa.gov.au/collection/recordsearch/index.aspx

Judith

Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: trisholdham on Saturday 27 February 10 07:03 GMT (UK)
Hi,
Thank you all for the help, the war record is of his son, Harry Tremaine(Pearsall) was married to Matilda Elliott (second wife)   first wife was Cecilia Rousell.
I found Harry Pearsall on the 1881 census under Dearsall - if you put in Myra Dearsall born 1842 born in Oldswinford Worcestershire it should come up okay and if you look at the original it will show Harry there age 16.
On the 1871 census put in Mirah Pearsall age 29 from Oldswinford living at Upperswinford Worcestershire, then look at the original and you will see Harry age 6yrs a boy, but it has been punched up as Mary.
I can not find him on the 1891 census, or any other.
I found a ship called "Rockton" coming from Melbourne to Sydney on the 16 march 1888 with a passenger called Pearsall, so that is why we thought it might be him.

Many thanks for all your help.
Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Saturday 27 February 10 07:32 GMT (UK)

Thanks for having a look for me, he did go to Melbourne and then landed up in NSW, but some where in between he changed his name to Henry (Harry)Tremaine.

May I ask how you know he went to Melbourne and then NSW?
CheersCando

Can you answer the question cando asked?

Does his death certificate state how long he had been living in AUS?
Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: trisholdham on Saturday 27 February 10 07:58 GMT (UK)
Death certificate dated 17th April 1901 says he had been in NSW 15 years, and he was aged 34 yrs at death.
Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: trisholdham on Saturday 27 February 10 08:07 GMT (UK)
I thought he came to Melbourne because I found him on the steam ship "Rockton" going from Melbourne to Sydney in 1888, but I could be wrong. I have looked and looked for him coming out here under Pearsall and Tremaine, but no luck.
Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: ~MERLIN~ on Saturday 27 February 10 10:24 GMT (UK)
It's possible that he worked his way over to AUS as a crew member, many young men did.

Have you searched for him as crew on ships arriving to AUS ports?
Title: Re: Henry PEARSALL
Post by: trisholdham on Sunday 28 February 10 07:53 GMT (UK)
Yes I have looked for him as a crew member, but no luck