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Title: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Tuesday 23 February 10 19:19 GMT (UK)
Hi all new to the site and would like to share my knowledge in British military history,i would like to help anyone who is resarching there family history through the British armed forces i  have loads of information which may be a help to you. The informaton i have are the following. Imformation updated on the following subjects

THE DISTINGUSHED SERVICE MEDAL 1914-1920
PENINSULAR WAR OFFICERS KILLKED AND WOUNDED 1808-1814
CASUALTY ROLL FOR THE CRIMEA 1854-1855
CASUALTY ROLL INDIAN MUNITY 1857-1859
SECOND AFGHAN WAR CASUALTY ROLL 1878-1880
ASLO BRITISH REGIMENT LOCATIONS IN THE FIRST WORLD WAR 1914-1918
A HISTORY OF THE 10TH BATTALION THE SHERWOOD FORESTERS 1914-1918
CASUALTY ROLL THE CAMPAIGN OF EGYPT 1882
24TH FOOT CASUALTY ROLL ZULU WAR
NAPOLEONIC WAR DATA HISTORY BRITISH REGIMENTS LOCATION DRUING 1793-1815
THE IRISH GUARDS 1ST BATTALION 1914-1918 CASUALTY LISTINGS
ROLL OF HONOUR 12TH BATTALION THE MANCHESTER REGIMENT 1914-1919 NAMES ONLY
BATTLE HONOUR OF THE ROYAL NAVY
RAF FIGHTER ACES OF THE SECOND WORLD WAR
CONAUGHT RANGERS INDIAN MUTINY ROLL 1920
HISTORY OF THE 52ND FOOT
IRISH REGIMENTAL HISTORYS


THE FORUM POSTING WILL BE UPDATED REGULALY ALL INFORMATION WILL BE PROFFESIONAL RESEARCHED AND OF COURSE FREE OF CHARGE LOOKING FORWARD TO HEARING FROM YOU


All regimental historys are now up to date looking forward to hear from you all
Title: Re: BRITISH MILITARY HISTORY
Post by: Canterburynorth on Tuesday 23 February 10 19:57 GMT (UK)
Hi Biggles5000,

Welcome to Rootschat :)

What a wonderful offer.

There is an armed forces  resource board here

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/board,388.0.html

Moderator comment - topic moved

I am sure you post would be welcomed. :D

Regards
Leandra
Title: Re: BRITISH MILITARY HISTORY
Post by: NEILKE on Tuesday 23 February 10 20:06 GMT (UK)
hi biggles welcome to roots chat wouuld you know anything about A coy.4th bn northumberland fusiliers  action around 27 september 1915 my 2x great uncle 10630 dennis kenny he died 27th and is remenbered on the loos memorial.
neil
Title: Re: British military history
Post by: Luzzu on Tuesday 23 February 10 23:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Biggles5000

Welcome to Rootschat  :D

I have a military "brickwall" at the moment and would like to see if you can help:-

They concern a soldier called Henry Dillon and the links to the posts are:-

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,439853.0.html

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,427857.0.html

Thank you.

Luzzu

Title: Re: British military history
Post by: biggles5000 on Wednesday 24 February 10 10:16 GMT (UK)
hi biggles welcome to roots chat wouuld you know anything about A coy.4th bn northumberland fusiliers  action around 27 september 1915 my 2x great uncle 10630 dennis kenny he died 27th and is remenbered on the loos memorial.
neil

Hi NEILKE  my records show  the Battalion postings during the the First World War hope this helps you
4th August 1914 Hexham Northumberland Brigade, Northhumbrian Div.On Tyne Defences till April 1915 and then was to France 14th May 1915 formation became the 149th Bde 50th Divison on the 15th July 1918 reduced to Cadre and then to the Dieppe area 16 August 1918 to 118th brigade.39th Division and then stationed at Harve was disbanded  10th Nov 1918.I will to research more about your great uncle if you like.
Title: Re: British military history
Post by: NEILKE on Wednesday 24 February 10 12:49 GMT (UK)
thank so much i allways knew of him and found him on cwg site i did a bit research trying to find out about the battle he may have been in but come up with nothing i wish my dad was still alive he would have realy like to know these things he was named dennis to.
thanks neil
Title: Re: British military history
Post by: biggles5000 on Wednesday 24 February 10 13:36 GMT (UK)
thank so much i allways knew of him and found him on cwg site i did a bit research trying to find out about the battle he may have been in but come up with nothing i wish my dad was still alive he would have realy like to know these things he was named dennis to.
thanks neil

Heres a little bit more information i found about your great uncle on the war graves commison web site hope it is some help on your research.

ame:     KENNY, DENNIS
Initials:    D
Nationality:    United Kingdom
Rank:    Private
Regiment/Service:    Northumberland Fusiliers
Unit Text:    "A" Coy. 4th Bn.
Age:    25
Date of Death:    27/09/1915
Service No:    10630
Additional information:    Son of John Kenny, of 3, Chirton Green, North Shields, and the late Emily Kenny.
Casualty Type:    Commonwealth War Dead
Grave/Memorial Reference:    Panel 20 to 22.
Memorial:    LOOS MEMORIAL
Title: Re: British military history
Post by: NEILKE on Wednesday 24 February 10 14:46 GMT (UK)
thanks again biggles i knew thgis all ready but thanks so much but i dont know anything at all about what action he was involed in.
thanks again neil
Title: Re: British military history
Post by: NEILKE on Wednesday 24 February 10 16:08 GMT (UK)
thanks again luzzu juist got it and thanks biggles.
neil
Title: Re: British military history
Post by: biggles5000 on Wednesday 24 February 10 18:03 GMT (UK)
Neilke the website The British army 1914-1918  for family historians is a very good website and describes the battle of loos in great detail supplyin maps and a blow by blow account of the battle with casualty stats.It also includes a time line event and the battle troop movements are described very well.
Title: Re: British military history
Post by: mmm45 on Wednesday 24 February 10 18:30 GMT (UK)
http://www.4thbnnf.com/index.html

site dedicated to 4th NF

A Territorial Battalion

Ady :)
Title: Re: British military history
Post by: NEILKE on Wednesday 24 February 10 19:43 GMT (UK)
wow thanks everyone my dad would have been over the moon just like i am
neil
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: loburt on Sunday 28 February 10 12:36 GMT (UK)
Hi you wouldn't have any information on the  B Subs Gun Team  H.R.H.T. Royal Horse Artillery
Have a photo of my G.G.Grandfather S.H.Cobbin (Cobbe) in Sialkot India c1835   
c1837 I am hitting a brick wall
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Sunday 28 February 10 18:32 GMT (UK)
Hi Loburt

Would be happy to help but what kind of information ar you looking for,do you know what rank was your G.G.Grandfather and did he serve ina ny campgains.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: loburt on Monday 01 March 10 02:18 GMT (UK)
Hello Biggles I have only received the photo of Samuel cobbin .I might be wasting your time for all I have is what I gave you last night.
Its written on the front of the photo in very old hand writing this is how it reads B.Sub.Gun.Team and Gunners HRHA SIAKOT India.
Now I found a site called     Fibis     there is a Samuel cobbin   it said (regiment or occupation )Groom now that's a horse person??
Biggles I hope you can under stand what I am trying to tell you haven't got the best computer skills    thank you again Loburt
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Monday 01 March 10 11:06 GMT (UK)
Hi Loburt

I have been trying to research your quest but not able to find anything just yet i have to add here for you which may help to find out about your G.G.Grandfatfather army records.

RA MANNING AND RECORDS OFFICE
IMPHAL BARRACKS
YORK
UNITED KINGDOM


Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: speedwobble on Thursday 04 March 10 15:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Biggles

This is a real longshot but maybe you can help me out.

My Gr Gr GR Grandfather was stationed in Fermoy Barracks, County Cork Abt 1862 as he married a local girl at the time.  When he left the barracks (army) and moved to Belfast he was listed as a Drill Master Sergeant and I believe he may have been resident at the barracks rather than posted there with a regiment.  i.e. he was the barracks Drill Sergeant.

Is there anyway of finding out what regiment he would have been serving with.  To reach the rank of sergeant he would have had to serve for a few years surely.  His name was James Galbraith
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: John Young on Thursday 04 March 10 18:51 GMT (UK)
Biggles,

Your address for the RA Museum is a tad out-of-date.  The old Academy has been converted into housing, I believe.

It is now known as FIREPOWER, with its own website.

Isandlwana
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Thursday 04 March 10 19:02 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that i shall remove it
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: km1971 on Friday 05 March 10 09:09 GMT (UK)
Barracks were run by the Barracks Department. They employed sergeants who were discharged regulars, but their job was to look after the barracks rather that be in charge of drill. It is likely he was on the permanent staff of a Militia unit based in Belfast.

You need to post an idea of his age as surviving army records are filed differently depending upon when he was discharged. The 11th Regiment had a depot in Fermoy in 1862. As did the 13th and 14th, and there may have been others. Until Findmypast put surviving pre-1914 online you will have to visit to Kew.

You should also check out FindMyPast as the regimental BMDs include the regiment in the index.

Ken
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: loburt on Friday 05 March 10 09:29 GMT (UK)

Thank you Biggles I will write to those three places you gave me,Biggles  I live down under so i will try and google see what happens
LoBurt
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Friday 05 March 10 13:05 GMT (UK)
Hi

Sorry for the delay The following regiments that were stationed in cork around 1862

11th Regiment of foot
13th Regiment of foot
96th Regiment of foot

I'm not sure where these regiment were in barracks at the time.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: loburt on Thursday 11 March 10 11:15 GMT (UK)
Hi Biggles  got on to Imphal Barracks york U.K.
The uniforms were fairly close, quite happy with that Thank you again
From Loburt
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Deb D on Thursday 11 March 10 12:35 GMT (UK)
Hi Biggles, and thank you for this generous offer.

I wonder if you can help me pinpoint the movements of the 21st Light Dragoons, from about 1809 to 1820?

Many thanks - no rush, though :)

Cheers
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Redroger on Thursday 11 March 10 16:01 GMT (UK)
Biggles, Can you give me the locations of the following regiments on the dates shown please?

10th Regiment of Foot between 6 Dec 1799 and 15 Apr 1801

84th Regiment of Foot between 21 Mar 1809 and 29 Jan 1811

Thanks in anticipation.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Thursday 11 March 10 19:32 GMT (UK)
Hi

Redroger

 The 10th (North Lincoln) Regiment of foot was in Egypt between 1799-1801,but took no part in any of the engagements against the French

The 84th (York and Lancaster) 2nd Battalion served in Ireland,Flanders, Took part at the siege of Flushing was fought on the 30th July- 16th August 1809 where  the British won a victory over the Franco- Dutch force of abour 6000 men. A cruel miasmic fever broke out amongest the British troop the British lost about 106 men but over 4000 died of Walcheren Fever.




Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Thursday 11 March 10 19:46 GMT (UK)
Hi

Deb D

The 21st  Light Dragoon  were based in

1808 Madiera
1809 Took part in capture of Mauritius
1811 Two troops to South Africa and took part in the 4th Kaffir War
1815 Troops sent as a garrison to Tristan de Chuna,and to St Helena to guard Napoleon
1817 To India lees the two Troops left behind attached to the Cape Corps
1818 Detachments to India and engaged in the Pindari War
1819 All parts of the Regiment retuned to England and reunited
1820 Disbanded
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Deb D on Thursday 11 March 10 22:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Biggles,

Thank you sooooo much!  Gives me a better idea, and more to go on with!  :-*

Cheers
Deb
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Redroger on Friday 12 March 10 13:10 GMT (UK)
Many thanks Biggles, the dates came about from a medical discharge certificate for my 2XGGF who was discharged from the 84th in 1811 with asthma and bad eyesight. In view of what you say about the fevers I would guess he was pleased to go. Now a more difficult one, I realise it is outside of the parameters you quote and if you cannot help I understand, but do you know which regiments were stationed at York and possibly other military establishments in the vicinity of York during 1776 please?
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Friday 12 March 10 19:08 GMT (UK)
HI

Redroger i hope this will help with your research these regiments were based in the Yorkshire East Riding Parish 1776 all based at Halifax these Regiment where either returning from America or been sent to America.

Halifax Town Regiments

49th Regiment of foot
52nd Regiment of foot
47th  Regiment of foot
55th  Regiment of foot
5th    Regiment of foot

Hope this information will help.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: km1971 on Friday 12 March 10 20:46 GMT (UK)
The 10th (North Lincoln) Regiment of foot was in Egypt between 1799-1801, but took no part in any of the engagements against the French

The 10th Foot took enough part to have Eygpt as a battle honour and be awarded the Egypt clasp to the Military General Service medal. They may have not have faced the French directly in battle, but their presence along with the rest of the Red Sea force played a part in the final victory.

Ken
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Friday 12 March 10 22:11 GMT (UK)
Double checked my information  and def not listed in the order of battle for  for the following clashes

Aboukir British clash with the French 8th March 1801
Lake Mareotis  clash with the French 13th March 1801
Alexandria       battle with the French 21st March 1801
(not even listed as been in reserves)
Cairo Capitulation 27th June 1801
Alexandria  Siege and Capitulation 17 August - 2nd September 1801

They could of served as a detachment of Marines but not to sure.But def listed as been there in there regimental history.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: John Young on Friday 12 March 10 23:04 GMT (UK)
Biggles,

The 10th (North Lincolnshire) Regiment are listed for the honour EGYPT having served in the campaign between 8th March - 26th August 1801.  The regiment's badge was the Sphinx subscribed EGYPT.

On another point relating to your comment regarding the 21st Light Dragoons, the 4th Kaffir War is now know as the 4th Cape Frontier War in polite circles, for obvious reasons.

Isandlwana

Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: loburt on Saturday 13 March 10 04:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Biggles  Just very confused with this gggrandfather of mine, I might have to start all over again hes lost me.
Firstly what does H.R.H.A. stand for
cant find the years 1836 to 1839 in INDIA. am i looking in the wrong places.
Been through and sent email to sites I have seen on this section and others
IS it me not under standing the compure.

Loburt ???
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Deb D on Saturday 13 March 10 04:13 GMT (UK)
I suspect Biggles is quoting from quite an old source, ... and, like me, wasn't aware of the ramifications of that earlier title until some research was done.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Saturday 13 March 10 10:32 GMT (UK)
Biggles,

The 10th (North Lincolnshire) Regiment are listed for the honour EGYPT having served in the campaign between 8th March - 26th August 1801.  The regiment's badge was the Sphinx subscribed EGYPT.

On another point relating to your comment regarding the 21st Light Dragoons, the 4th Kaffir War is now know as the 4th Cape Frontier War in polite circles, for obvious reasons.

Isandlwana



Thank You
Thats intresting thank you that information hope no offence was caused it was just listed as a that information when i researched the old records thanks again.

Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Saturday 13 March 10 10:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Biggles  Just very confused with this gggrandfather of mine, I might have to start all over again hes lost me.
Firstly what does H.R.H.A. stand for
cant find the years 1836 to 1839 in INDIA. am i looking in the wrong places.
Been through and sent email to sites I have seen on this section and others
IS it me not under standing the compure.

Loburt ???

Hi Loburt

I think the H.R.H.A. tands for Honorary Member, Royal Hibernian Academy have you tried contacting the National army Mueseum might be able to find thoes missing years
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Redroger on Saturday 13 March 10 20:32 GMT (UK)
Thanks for information Biggles, I don't think this is directly helpful; I actually meant in and around the City of York in 1776, and was hoping for a West Country or South of England Regiment. My 2XGGF was born in York in 1776 and I think baptised elsewhere, likely Somerset. He joined the Somerset Militia in 1794, and the surname is unknown in the north of England before he settled in Alford on discharge from the militia unit in 1796, then re-enlisted as previously stated.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Sunday 14 March 10 10:24 GMT (UK)
Hi

Sorry Redroger i couldn't help you with your research you should try the National Army Nuseuem they might be able to help you further
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Redroger on Sunday 14 March 10 10:27 GMT (UK)
Thanks for that Biggles, but the attestation forms if they still exist should be at Kew? Or are they possibly also at the NAM?
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Doddie on Tuesday 16 March 10 15:08 GMT (UK)
Hi Biggles5000, glad that you've joined us at Rootschat. I would be grateful for some information about the location of my late grandfather's regiment in 1918. He served with 6 Batt. Queen's Own Cameron Highlanders. In mid April 1918 he sent a postcard to his parents from Halesworth in Suffolk saying he was just about to leave for France. I would be interested to find out more accurately than I know at present were in France his regiment served. Also do records show where regiments were based before shipping out for foreign postings? I can find no record  of my grandfather's regiment being based in Suffolk even though (as well as the postcard) I have photograph of him in uniform taken  in a studio in Southwold, Suffolk. Not sure if it is relevant but before joining the Cam. Highlanders he was with the Lovat Scouts. I would be very grateful for any help.

Regards

Doddie
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Redroger on Thursday 25 March 10 15:40 GMT (UK)
Hi Biggles, Visited the NAM yesterday; their information from very helpful staff indirectly confirmed that the Halifax troops had been to America; i.e.there were no regular regiments at York during 1776, in fact all British regiments were at that time fighting against the rebels in the American colonies. York, in common with other places were garrisoned by militia troops.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: tailsticks on Saturday 10 April 10 23:06 BST (UK)
Hi Biggles5000,

I've reached a stumbling block trying to research my gt gt grandmother.

Maria (sometimes Mary) Theresa Stangroom.  Knowing she was born in Mauritius I found an overseas Army birth record for her in 1850 (and her brother Henry 1850).  Both listed as 5th Regiment?  (5th Regiment of what?)

Any insight you might have would be helpful.  Any Stangrooms listed in military/5th regiment in Mauritius?

I have Maria back in England by 1870 marriage to John Gay in Plymouth.

Thank in advance!  Sue
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Dave6335 on Monday 12 April 10 02:06 BST (UK)
Hello Biggles,
I don't know if the records you hold could help me but I've been struggling to find missing Royal Artillery details about my grt grandfather and grandfather.  The details I do have are as below:-

Although I have many details about where my grandfather was at times after 1919 I know nothing of his WW1 service and, as I have no death certificate and don't know when he died, I don't think I can apply for his details from the MOD. The same applies to my great grandfather.

With regard to my great grandfather, Thomas Parkinson, the only confirmed details I have are that he was a gunner (no 5949) in the Royal Horse Artillery "A" Brigade, Southern Company in Exeter in 1887 (the year my grandfather was born).

For my grandfather, Archibald Elliot Parkinson, I have a large number of photographs and have managed to build up something of a picture of his movements but there are gaps and dates missing. The info I have is:-
Born in 1887 he was a Corporal in the Royal Garrison Artillery in Sheerness in 1914. I do not know what company he was in though. Prior to 1914 he was in Simonstown, South Africa in 1909 and in 1918 he was in Swanley, Eastchurch, Isle of Sheppey.
From 1919 to 1924 he was in Blakang Mati, Singapore with his wife and presumeably his son (my father). I have a number of photo's that confirm the year date.
From 1925 to 1928 he was in Malta, again with his wife but no son, he was in boarding school.
1928 to 1933 saw them in Diyatalawa, Ceylon (again several more photos)
I have further photo's of them in Pakistan (Karachi) and India (Bombay) but, frustratingly, they did not write any dates on the backs of the photo's.
In 1936 he was a Captain and in Tynemouth. I have a newspaper photograph cutting of him attending the castle there along with the then Admiral Of The Fleet, Sir E.R.G.R. Evans and a Major R.A.O. Clarke.
By 1941 he was a Major and also I believe a Freemason.
I have no service records or numbers whatsoever and can find little on the internet about the military activities he would have been in the various countries for.

If you don't have any specific records can you suggest where I should look next?  Thank you for your time and patience in having read a rather lengthy query.  ;D

Best regards
David
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: plonker on Monday 07 June 10 14:16 BST (UK)
hi biggles

dont know if you can help me but here goes

looking fo any scrap of info on the following

 James Powell born in Ireland discharged between 1760 & 1854 in the WO 97 series of discharge papers: WO 97/319/142 JAMES POWELL Born FERMOY, Cork Served in 10th Foot Regiment Discharged aged 46 1805-1821

could you please check your records for any info this guy is my ggggrand daddy and know nothing about him or his life.

thank you very much
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: lynnc7 on Tuesday 08 June 10 23:23 BST (UK)
Hi Can you help please? I'm trying to find any information about John Cunningham, he was born 1894 in Aberdour Fifeshire Scotland. He was in the army and died 1st July 1916 on the Somme, he was 22yrs old. I would like to know his regiment and possibly where he is buried. Thanks
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: speedwobble on Thursday 10 June 10 22:53 BST (UK)
Hi Lynnc
I have found a John Cunningham born 1894 from High Street, Aberdour.  He signed up aged 20yrs 10 mnths in 1914 he was killed in action 1/7/1916 and was serving with the 15th Battalion, The Royal Scots.  If this is him, he is listed at the Thiepval Memorial, his army number was 18708.  Here is a link to the Commonwealth War Graves site.

http://www.cwgc.org/search/SearchResults.aspx?surname=Cunningham&initials=J&war=1&yearfrom=1916&yearto=2000&force=Army&nationality=&send.x=33&send.y=14

Hope this is the guy you are looking for.

Send me a PM with your e-mail address and I will be able to help you out further.

Regards
John
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: lynnc7 on Friday 11 June 10 11:31 BST (UK)
Hi John
Thanks for the information it certainly sounds like my guy. The family lived in High Street in 1891, just before he was born. I'll send you my e mail as soon as I can work out the PM.
Again thanks a lot.
Lynn
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: speedwobble on Friday 11 June 10 11:56 BST (UK)
I have sent you a PM Lynn.  Just reply with your e-mail address.

Did you find this memorial?

http://www.cwgc.org/search/certificate.aspx?casualty=758021
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: lucknow on Sunday 12 September 10 19:50 BST (UK)
Hello Biggles,
 I would love to know if you have any casualty information for my relative Thomas Hamilton who was severely wounded at the siege of Lucknow on the 6th Oct 1857,although other records say he was wounded on the 15th Oct ?
 Would you be able to check your records and hopefully clear this discrepancy up?
Regards Jonathan.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Jeffrey on Monday 20 September 10 21:23 BST (UK)
Dear Biggles,
Please can you help.

I have just received a birth notification of an ancestor - Elizabeth Minister born 1813 in Palermo. Father Herman & mother Babara.
He is a Private in HM 20th Regiment of Light Dragoons.

Can you tell me anything about the movements of the 20th Dragoons please?
Are there any muster Rolls surviving and can you tell if he died whilst in the Dragoons?

On the 1851 Census in the Birthplace Column Elizabeth says she is born Scicily, Germany. Have you got any ideas about why that could be?

Many thanks.

Judy
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Redroger on Wednesday 22 September 10 09:47 BST (UK)
Just a suggestion Judy, Her father's Christian name being Herman does suggest to me that possibly he was of Hanoverian origin. There was a unit of the British Army known as The King's German Legion. Maybe there is a connection to this?
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Sunday 14 November 10 19:55 GMT (UK)
Dear Biggles,
Please can you help.

I have just received a birth notification of an ancestor - Elizabeth Minister born 1813 in Palermo. Father Herman & mother Babara.
He is a Private in HM 20th Regiment of Light Dragoons.

Can you tell me anything about the movements of the 20th Dragoons please?
Are there any muster Rolls surviving and can you tell if he died whilst in the Dragoons?

On the 1851 Census in the Birthplace Column Elizabeth says she is born Scicily, Germany. Have you got any ideas about why that could be?

Many thanks.

Judy


Hi judy

Sorry about the  wait took a a break for a while

Anyway  The  20th light Dragoons  was  in stationed in Sicily in 1813 with a small detachment left in Spain.In 1814 Detachments to Leghorn and Genoa,then  they returned to Silicily .Returned to England and then Regiment was Renunited.In 1817 the Regiment was posted to Ireland and the following year was disbanded in  1818.


Became  the  2nd Bengal Eurpeon Cavarly  in 1858  and was raised as  a  regiment of East India Company in 1860 The  Regiment became the  2nd Bengal European Cavarly under the crown and ceased to belong to the East India Company.1861  Became the 20th light Dragoons on the  English establishment ,inheiriting the Honours of the 20th Regiment of Light Dragoons.In 1862 became 20th Hussars and remained in India

1863 Took part in the Ambeyla expediton  then in 1868  took part in  the Hazara Expedition.In 1872 the Regiment returned to England .1874  the Regiment was Authorised to  bear Honours of the previous  Regiment of that number 1884  detachment sent to Egypt as part of the light camel corp in 1885 took part in the Suakin Expedition of the Sudan in the action at the Water Forts (20th of December 1885) .All  about one squadron returned to England.in 1895 to Egypt  1901 was posted to South Africa and then in 1902 was posted to Egypt yet again.1914 the  Regiment often fought as infantry in France  in 1920  the regiment joined the army of the black sea  in Turkey and took part in the last  regimental  cavarly charge of the British Army and was returned to England 1921 Disbanded and later reusciatated 1922 Amalgamted with the 14th KINGHUSSARS (qv) as the 14/20th HUSSARS  forming one complete squadron.


Hope this information will help you on your search and again sorry for the delay.

Biggles
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: cawood on Sunday 14 November 10 20:13 GMT (UK)
Hi. I dont know if you will be able to help, but my gt grandfather served with the 11th battalion lancs fuseliers during ww1  (part of the BEF) and according to family history was captured in 1918. He was in 13 platoon but i cannot find out where the unit was at the time. Any ideas ?. He like many others was awarded the Victory and British Medals, which sadly seem to have been lost. Thank you.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Sunday 14 November 10 20:15 GMT (UK)
Hello Biggles,
 I would love to know if you have any casualty information for my relative Thomas Hamilton who was severely wounded at the siege of Lucknow on the 6th Oct 1857,although other records say he was wounded on the 15th Oct ?
 Would you be able to check your records and hopefully clear this discrepancy up?
Regards Jonathan.

Hi Lucknow

Hi Lucknow sorry about late reply  took a break for a while just after seaching the Indian Muntiny Casualty roll 1857-59  but found no record of a Thomas Hamilton  can you please forward me the Regiment he served in and i will check again

Biggles
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Sunday 14 November 10 20:34 GMT (UK)
Hi. I dont know if you will be able to help, but my gt grandfather served with the 11th battalion lancs fuseliers during ww1  (part of the BEF) and according to family history was captured in 1918. He was in 13 platoon but i cannot find out where the unit was at the time. Any ideas ?. He like many others was awarded the Victory and British Medals, which sadly seem to have been lost. Thank you.

Hi Cawood   

Has far i  know the 11th battalion lancs fuseliers landed in Boulonge on 25/9/1915  it was involved in driffrents operations along  the somme front  until the near of end of the battle in October  1916.The 11 battalion lost over 917 men  with one victoria cross won in 1915  the battalion was disbanded in on 12/8/1918  near Dieppe.

i hope this information is any help to you.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: cawood on Sunday 14 November 10 21:09 GMT (UK)
Thank you for prompt reply. I have found his records on ancestry, as my gt gran sent a letter to the powers that be as she had not heard from him, but i cannot make out what it says and i think he was taken prisoner. Thank you for your help.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Sunday 14 November 10 21:18 GMT (UK)
Thank you for prompt reply. I have found his records on ancestry, as my gt gran sent a letter to the powers that be as she had not heard from him, but i cannot make out what it says and i think he was taken prisoner. Thank you for your help.

No prob  if i can be of any more help please ask  i do know  that  it can take a bit of time for the research to come back from minstry of defence.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Laurieh on Monday 15 November 10 03:51 GMT (UK)
Hi Biggles,
       I have been chasing my grandfather Edward Hadley born in 1883 in Dudley UK. He joined the South Wales  Borderers (24th foot) in about 1902 and served with them untill 1912 then he went to Canada and served with the CEF. Do you have any thing on his service with the South Wales Borderers 24th foot? Thank you. Laurie.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Jeffrey on Monday 15 November 10 08:15 GMT (UK)
Thankyou for your reply. Have now got his records from Kew an amazing place to visit!

Judy
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Lookin2 on Monday 15 November 10 11:21 GMT (UK)
Biggles5000

Do you know of any way that I can find where my father served in France during WW1.  He was a Pvt. with RASC and was awarded the usual 3 medals Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal. The letter from MOD (1989) just states Service with the Colours 21.3.15 - 25.6.19 and Overseas Service 17.4.15 - 27.5.19.  It shows: M/40356 (formerly M2054610) Pvte Ernest Sydney Mills- Royal Army Service Corps.  I have tried Ancestry but presumed they were lost in firejust hoping there may be another way.  Thank you Lookin2
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Monday 15 November 10 11:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Biggles,
       I have been chasing my grandfather Edward Hadley born in 1883 in Dudley UK. He joined the South Wales  Borderers (24th foot) in about 1902 and served with them untill 1912 then he went to Canada and served with the CEF. Do you have any thing on his service with the South Wales Borderers 24th foot? Thank you. Laurie.

Hi laurieh

1902  Company vol returned to Wales  awarded  battle  SOUTH AFRICA 1900-1902
1904  1st batallion  posted to England
1906  2nd batallion posted  to South Africa
1909  1st batallion to Egypt  detachment form the frist also posted in Cyprus
1910   2nd  battalion mounted guard  at at Bukingham palace
1913   Sudan


hope this information will  help you in your search.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Monday 15 November 10 11:40 GMT (UK)
Biggles5000

Do you know of any way that I can find where my father served in France during WW1.  He was a Pvt. with RASC and was awarded the usual 3 medals Star, British War Medal and Victory Medal. The letter from MOD (1989) just states Service with the Colours 21.3.15 - 25.6.19 and Overseas Service 17.4.15 - 27.5.19.  It shows: M/40356 (formerly M2054610) Pvte Ernest Sydney Mills- Royal Army Service Corps.  I have tried Ancestry but presumed they were lost in firejust hoping there may be another way.  Thank you Lookin2

Hi

if you contact the Imperial war muesum  or the  National army  muesum also  the another  great site ancestryco.uk  they have sme grat records .Also try and give the record office in kew  a shout aswell.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Laurieh on Monday 15 November 10 12:10 GMT (UK)
Hi Biggles,
     Thank you for that info. I great to hear that he was on guard at Bukingham Palace 1910 he was with them untill 1912 then as I said he went to Canada and joined the CEF in 1914. He was a BSM there training troops for WW1.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Lookin2 on Monday 15 November 10 14:39 GMT (UK)
Biggles5000

Thank you. I was hoping someone could tell me whether  RASC when  sent to France were assigned to a  Regiment or were under RASC while in France.  Lookin2
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: lucknow on Monday 15 November 10 17:52 GMT (UK)
Hello Biggles,
 I would love to know if you have any casualty information for my relative Thomas Hamilton who was severely wounded at the siege of Lucknow on the 6th Oct 1857,although other records say he was wounded on the 15th Oct ?
 Would you be able to check your records and hopefully clear this discrepancy up?
Regards Jonathan.

Thanks for your help regarding this.My relative Thomas Hamilton was a member of the 84th foot York and Lancasters.He was an original defender at the siege of Lucknow.
 I manages to get hold of his discharge papers which states he was severely wounded in the right leg on the 6th Oct although other rersearch suggested he was injured on the 15th Oct.
 Could you also advise me with regards to finding out more about the siege of Lucknow,and in particular if  there is anyone you can think of who has specialised in researching the topic.
 Regards Jonathan.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Monday 15 November 10 20:36 GMT (UK)
Hi lucknow

I have looked at my records wich  is a book called the casualty of Indian  Mutiny 1857-59  by I.T Tavender but still cannot find Thomas Hamilton which mean it could be a mistake when they were researching the book.The 84th foot were present in India at the time of the muntiny.

Here some website  that mite help to understand  the  defence  hope it helps  you further with the research

www.defencejournal.com/2000/mar/lucknow.htm

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Defence_of_Lucknow_1857

www.marxists.org/archive/marx/works/1858/02/01.htm

There is also a book  called  The  great mutiny   india 1857  by christopher hibbert.

hope this information will help you further.

biggles

Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Tuesday 27 March 12 00:53 BST (UK)
Hi everybody back now after a short break any questions to ask about the british army i be glady to help.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Tuesday 27 March 12 11:06 BST (UK)
Just got new records today lads.

Scottish regimental historys 1642-1994
English Welsh Regimental Historys 1642-1994.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Redroger on Tuesday 27 March 12 12:24 BST (UK)
Just got new records today lads.

Scottish regimental historys 1642-1994
English Welsh Regimental Historys 1642-1994.

Does this mention which units were at York 1775-6 please?
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Tuesday 27 March 12 14:33 BST (UK)
Just got new records today lads.

Scottish regimental historys 1642-1994
English Welsh Regimental Historys 1642-1994.

Does this mention which units were at York 1775-6 please?

Is that York in England your looking for and do you have any idea of the Regiment name i could check it then and see what i can find.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Redroger on Tuesday 27 March 12 19:14 BST (UK)
It is York England, 2 dragoon units garrisoned the city in this period. I need to know if there were any other units there too please? Dates 1775-6 Thanks.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: biggles5000 on Tuesday 27 March 12 22:10 BST (UK)
It is York England, 2 dragoon units garrisoned the city in this period. I need to know if there were any other units there too please? Dates 1775-6 Thanks.


Yea The 16th Queen Light Dragoons were stationed there before the moved to America in 1776 i also found this link http://orbat.com/site/uk_orbats/files/6/The%20British%20Army%201775.pdf that gives every regiment location 1775-1783.But i will check again and have the information for you by Friday.
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Post by: Redroger on Wednesday 28 March 12 20:19 BST (UK)
Many thanks, at Kew tomorrow (Thursday) so just in time.
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: rac1473 on Friday 30 March 12 01:32 BST (UK)
Hi Biggles

Would it be possible for you to tell me where the 2nd Battalion Royal Sussex Regiment were stationed,
from about 1920 till 1942

Many thanks

Roy
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Shesaknitter on Friday 30 March 12 11:37 BST (UK)
Hi Biggles!  I recently got the name of my great-great grandfather, born in Scotland, from someone I met on one of these forums.  She had actually posted years ago about this man, happening to mention in her post the name of my great grandmother, who was his daughter.  This contact was trying to find out what had happened to those daughters because she and her sister had been left in Bermuda by their father when he was widowered.  They were Bermudians, as was their mother.

Your kind offer to assist with researching information about those who were in the British military caught my eye and I am writing to find out more, if that is possible.

My contact (who has stopped communicating with me, apparently, and regrettably - maybe she is just having computer problems or got busy) mentioned that his military records, which she did find in the national archive at Kew, revealed a lot about his personality.  I would love to see what is in those records, but since I don't think I'll be getting them from her, and don't think I'll be getting to the U.K. again any time soon, perhaps you could help me with finding more, please?

Here is what I have so far:  Arthur Ernest Campbell. Royal artillary muster records for him were found (again, by this contact, who is his great grand-daughter) at The National Archives in Kew, London; he was a Bombardier, Royal Artillery, he was born in Killiecrankie, Scotland in 1846 or 1850; he worked as a photographer later in life (I don't know if that provides any clues about what he did in the military; he was stationed in Bermuda for a long time.  He married a Bermudian and they had two daughters, one of whom was my mother's paternal grandmother. His father's first name might have been Samuel but that is not certain.

Arthur may have gone to Bermuda c1870 probably with the British Merchant Navy (leaving from Portmouth) or he was a bombardier in the Royal Artillery...not sure which, nor do I know the difference, but those two branches (if they are even separate branches) have been mentioned in connection with his military career.

I am a librarian and have great research skills, but nothing beats being in the country where the research is conducted (and I've also just expanded my research efforts online) so if you can help in any way (including pointing me in the right direction or directions for more information related to this ancestor), I would really appreciate it so much!

It is 3:30 a.m. here so I'm off to get some sleep, but I hope that you can help me. 

Many thanks,

Deborah
Title: Re: British military history data and records
Post by: Redroger on Friday 30 March 12 20:52 BST (UK)
Went to Kew yesterday, located the likely unit which I believe my ancestor enlisted in; 9th Dragoons which was in Dorset (Sherbourne) in 1774 and 1775 and York in 1776. They were recruiting in Dorset, only problem officers' names only in the muster roll.