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I am searching for the parents of my GGG Grandmother, Ann Clarkson, born 1793, in Silsden.
Any info gratefully received.
Jackie
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Have a look at www.findagrave.com - there are tons of Clarksons I put in.
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I have the registers for Silsden St James church - baptisms, 1713-1898
The closest I found was an Ann Clarkson, daughter of John and Mary of Silsden, a nailmaker, baptised on the 26/2/1801.
Looked at possibles of Anne and Annie too, no luck.
Do you have any other information that will help,- her marriage, when, to whom and where, might give fathers name.
Any siblings?
Lots of Clarksons in Silsden, any seems that most people who lived in Silsden were nailmakers.
Margaret
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Hello Both
Thank you for your help.
Ann was married to James Gill, born abt 1792 in Kildwick. Their son Dugdale Clarkson Gill was born in Silsden abt 1809.
Dugdale was a nailmaker, so it all fits.
Jackie
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Hi Jackie.
James Gill, son of Jonathon and Mary of Silsden, a labourer, was baptised 3/1/1792, Silsden
Marriage - James Gill, nailmaker of silsden, bachelor, to Anne Clarkson of Silsden, spinster on the 12/3/ 1810 at Kildwick.
This marriage will help disregard the baptism I found earlier for Ann in 1801.
The son you mention, Dugdale, was baptised on the 19/1/1813 at Silsden. And another son, Jonathon, was born on the 20/12/1816 and baptised 5/1/1817.
Can I ask where you are getting your possible birth dates from? Do not rely on the 1841 census as they rounded up and down the ages and it is not reliable source.
Do you have other census years?
I can give you more children but if you have this info not much point my searching for you as there are a lot of Gills and Clarksons there.
Happy to help if required.
Margaret
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Hello Margaret
Thank you so much for the info. Do your records go any further back for parents of Ann Clarkson please ? or James's Grandparents ?
I know the 1841 census details are approx, but I do have census records from then on, and the Gills are well documented in Lancaster, where Dugdale moved to. I also use the LDS search.
His son, Jonathan Clarkson Gill (my G Grandfather) was a ships engineer, and disappeared when the Albert Edward was sank off the Norfolk coast in 1878.
Thanks again,
Jackie
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Hi Jackie,
Pleased to help.
Now, before we go searching backwards, perhaps we should try and sort out the family of James and Ann first.
Would you like me to find all the births and baptisms of their children that I can find.
and, if so, do you have a list of names and approx. birthdates please.
As they say - one step at a time. ;)
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Hello Margaret
Thanks for offer. I don't know of any other children of James and Ann, so if you would kindly help again, I would be grateful.
Jackie
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Here is a starter.
note, some are only baptisms and baptised at a later date so may not necessarily be in the order I have them.
You may need to check later census to help verify ages.
Issue of James Gill and Ann Clarkson, nailmaker of Silsden. All baptised at Silsden.
William - bp 6/1/1811
Margaret - bp 19/1/1813
Dugdale Clarkson - bp. 19/1/1813 (not necessarily twins but possible)
Mary Clarkson - bp 24/3/1815
John - bp 14/8/1815
Jonathon - b. 20/12/1816, bp. 5/1/1817
Jane - b. 9/9/1819, bp. 14/10/1821
Ann - b. 12/3/1820, bp. 9/4/1820
Thomas - b. 20/4 / 1822, bp. 5/3/1826
Jonas Clarkson - b. 15/4/1825, bp. 5/3/1826
buried, 12/3/1826, aged 10 months old, at Silsden
Nanny Clarkson - b. 1/1/1827, bp. 9/9/1827
Grace - b. 2/10/1830, bp. 17/2/1833
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I will see what else I can find, but over the next week got a full schedule.
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Hi Margaret
Thanks for the info, we will see if it throws any further light on the family, when I add it to my family tree.
Anything further you find would help greatly.
Jackie
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Hello Margaret
I have been recording your findings, but I am confused with the birth/baptism dates for Thomas. He seems to have been born 5 weeks after Ann.
Regards
Jackie
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Hi Jackie,
sorry about that, guess I was looking at the date above. :-[
I have corrected it to 20/4/1822
Margaret
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Thanks Margaret.
Jackie
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I have been having a bit more of a play.
Firstly, James Gill who married Ann Clarkson.
I stated earlier that his likely bp was on the 3/1/1792 to Jonathon and Mary of Silsden, a labourer.
The most likely of marriage for his parents was this interesting find :
Jonathon Gill of Silsden, husbandman, bachelor, to Mary Clarkson of Silsden, minor at Kildwick on the 8/12/1788.
Another find was for James and Ann's son Thomas who I have listed earlier as born 1822 (the one I stuffed up the date ;D )
This could be his family I found in the Memorials (headstones) for burials at Silsden.
In memory of three children of Thomas and Margaret GILL of Silsden, Fanny died May 16th 1851 in the 5th year of her age, William died July 6th 1851 in the second year of his age, and James died June 9th 1852 in the first year of his age.
Also the above Thomas who died Oct 14th 1852 in the 30th year of his age.
His age fits nicely.
Thought perhaps the name Dugdale might put some light on to the Ann Clarkson, not many in Silsden at all and I cannot see any link into the Clarkson family.
Also thought might try to follow up on the name Nanny in case of family traditions in naming. Not too many clues but will pass on a couple I found
Nanny Clarkson - dau of William and Mary Ann of Silsden, a masons labourer, born 1880
or Nanny Clarkson, of Silsden, widow, died 11/1/1771
Might have family ties but cannot say for certain.
I have also some possible siblings for James Gill born in 1792, but the occupation changes for the father so not sure if the same Jonathon or another. I can give you these anyway if you wish and I will list the occupation with it so you can decide for yourself.
Hope this is of some help to you
Margaret
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Just had a look through IGI in Family search and noted that they had Nanny Clarkson Gill, bp 1827 as Nancy Clarkson Gill.
I think Ann/Hannah/Nancy/Nanny could all be combo's of same name :-\
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Hi Margaret
Thanks so much for this info. I wonder how old a minor was ?? Nanny WAS probably a family name, as Johnathon Gill, my G Grandfather had a sister, Jane Ann, born 1850, who died in infancy.
Thanks again
Jackie
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Hello Margaret
Thanks for the further info. I found two marriages for a Johnathon Gill to a Mary. One as you say was to Mary Clarkson, however I found another to a Mary Fortune. Not sure now which is my ancestor.
Ann seems to have been a family name, as my G Grandfather had a sister, Jane Ann, who died very young.
I would be grateful for your opinion.
Regards
Jackie
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sorry for duplicating info.
Jackie
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I think the fact that a few children have the middle name of Clarkson that Mary Clarkson is an easy choice to go with ;D
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Hi Margaret
It just seems odd that we have Gills marrying Clarksons, for two generations. i.e. Ann and Mary.
Jackie
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Not that odd in small villages, but I will check later and makes sure all is in order. ;)
Margaret
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Thank you Margaret.
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Hi,
I am checking now.
The details are:
Jonathon Gill married Mary Clarkson on the 8/12/1788 at Kildwick - he was a husbandman of Silsden
Jonathon Gill married Mary Fortune on the 15/12/1815 at Kildwick - he was a nailmaker of Silsden
Now the baptism for James Gill that fitted his birthdate states he was baptised on the 3/1/1792, parents - Jonathon and Mary of Silsden (Jonathon listed just as a labourer)
It cannot be Jonathon and Mary Fortune as they were married 23 years after his baptism.
Any thoughts welcome and happy to do more checks if you want.
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Many thanks for that Margaret.
Jackie