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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: grandma on Friday 19 February 10 19:53 GMT (UK)
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HI all.
Wonder if anybody can help me with this one.
John Mclay and Agnes Craig, m. 1871 in Hamilton. They had the following.. Archibald b 1872/3 ( have been unable to find the birth on SP). Richard, b. 1874, Jane Neil b. 1877and Catherine McFarlame, b. 1880. All born Hamilton.
I have this family on the 1881 census Hamilton, but there is no Jane Neil listed. Tried to find a death for her but unsuccesful.
Would like to find Jane Neil, possibly a death. and would appreciate it if someone can help me finding Archibalds birth. Have tried all spellings etc, but nothing comes up for me.
Mary
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Hello Mary.
I'm interested in your family as I live fairly locally. Can I ask a few questions?
The child, .... Archibald, born around 1872/73, that you cannot find a birth for. Are you certain of dates, and place of birth? Where did you get your information from?
Jane Neil, born 1877. Where does the name Neil come from? Is it her birth name, or was it a name she acquired later, ie through marriage?
Unfortunately, I do not have any Archibald's in my line, but wish you well, in your search.
Are we looking for McLay/ Craig as surnames?
Gail
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Hi Gail.
Agnes Craig is actually a little far out on my tree.I started looking for a Jean Neil Craig, who was my fathers cousin. Her parents were William Craig and Mary,m.s. also Craig. Her parents again were William Craig and Jean Neil.
Wanted to find out if the 2 Craig families, were related and have gone back as far as the birth of a Jean Craig b. 1855 with parents William Craig,b abt. 1819 and Jean, m.s. O`Neil. b. abt. 1822
This William Craig and Jean O`Neil Craig also had children, Bethea Craig, b. 1857 and David Craig b. 1860.
Still dont know if they were related far back in the early 1800`s.
Hope you can make sense of this with all the names. It gets a bit confusing with the same names in each following generation.
My paternal grandmother was a Craig, therefor the interest.
As far as Archibald b. abt 1872 goes. his name was on the 1881 census, with his family but I have been unable to find his birth info on Scotlands people.
Cheers,
Mary
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Well here's one of them......
Your Jane Neil McLAY was not born in Hamilton!
1877 MCLAY JANE NEIL F STEVENSTON /AYR 615/00 0061
Best wishes
Jean
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Hi Jean.
Thanks , my mistake. I have the cert. in front of me, says Ayr. The 2 others, Richard and Catherine, both born Hamilton.
Cheers,
Mary.
I may not have been clear on my first posting. I have the cert. of Richard and Cathrine as well. It is Archibald I havn`t been able to find.
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Thanks to Hugh Wallis I found this birth that looks interesting enough to investigate -
ARCHIBALD RICHARD MCLAY WALLACE
Born 08 FEB 1874 Hamilton, Lanark, Scotland (his age is given as 7 in 1881)
Mother: ISABELLA WALLACE
Regards,
Nel
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Hi Nel.
Rather interesting. I had a look at this birth. He is reg as illigitimate son of Isabella Wallace.
Could he have been taken by John Mclay and Agnes Craig and raised with their own children? Seems strange with the name Archibald Richard Mclay. As I said I couldn`t find an Archibald Mclay b. abt 1874.
Stranger things have happened!! But who was the father??
Cheers.
Mary
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Hi Nel.
Well Ivè solved one mystery at least. Found Archibald Richards marriage to Agnes Bruce 1899. It stated his mother had married a David Reid. There was also an amendment to the marriage of Archibald Richard, subsituting the name of Wallace to Mclay.
I then found the 1891 census for John Mclay and Agnes Craig and there was Archibald Richard named as adopted son. At least I know that now, but who is the father?
Also Jane Neil was on the 1891 census, so have that cleared up too.
Thanks for your help.
Mary
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Dear Mary,
Are you still interested in this family?
AGNES CRAIG was the daughter of WILLIAM CRAIG and JEAN O'NEIL. I have the census data on her parents as well as William's death record that I would be happy to send you.
William Craig was the son of JOHN CRAIG and MARY GARTSHORE. I have census data for John and Mary and death and/or marriage certificates for their other children: Jane, George, Mary and John. I descend from George Craig.
Aloha,
Geneaglutton
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Hi Geneaglutton.
It`s ages since I did anything with this family so mucst go through all my papers. As I said this wasn`t a direct line but do remember I got really involved trying to find a connection between the 2 Craig branches.
It may take a couple of days before I can answer you, but will def. get back to you.
Cheers, Mary.
Are you from Hawaii?
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My apologies, Mary. I picked up your post via Google and completely forgot we had already exchanged some thoughts. No rush.
Yes, I'm in Hawaii.
Aloha.
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Hi. I did wonder when I saw "Aloha". Faintly remember exchanging words. Getting old tho!! memory not so good any more.
Mary
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Hi Mary
The Bent Cemetery Burial Records show:
McLAY, Agnes Craig, age 9 mos, date of burial 15 February 1910, 185 Dundyvan Rd, Coatbridge, McLAY, Jeanie Neil, age 17, date of burial 11 April 1894, 5 Park Place, New Carnbroe
McLAY, John, age 63, date of burial 29 June 1907, Carnbroe Mains Cottage, Bellshill
Also
McLAY, Agnes, Adult (no age), date of burial 6 February 1936, 3 Edward St, Glasgow
McLAY, Agnes, age 84, date of burial 27 May 1946, 4 Midlothian Dr, Glasgow
McLAY, Alexander, age 49, date of burial 23 August 1883, Auchingramont Road, Hamilton
McLAY, Alexander, age 66, date of burial 18 February 1924, Victoria Infirmary, Glasgow
McLAY, Catherine McFarlane, age 5, date of burial 27 October 1885, 99 New Bldgs, Quarter
McLAY, Jane, age 91, date of burial 10 July 1923, 60 Cadder St, Pollokshaws
McLAY, Janet, age 14, date of burial 14 May 1881, Poorhouse, Hamilton
McLay, Sarah, age 18, date of burial 19 December 1893, 133 Forth St, Pollockshields
McLAY, William, age 26, date of burial 28 September 1910, Cathburn Farm, Cambusnethan [A Farmer married to Jane McLean]
Cheers,
Rodeo
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Thanks Rodeo.
Waiting for some rainy weather, so can get busy going through my papers.
Mary.
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Hi, I can only find three children for Mary and John, William, Jane and George. I found William as "PRESENT AT MOTHERS DEATH". You say there were others, Mary and John, do you have birth dates. G
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I think Geneaglutton is the one who could answer this. he mentions that John Craig and Mary Gartshore had 4 children, Jane, George, Mary and John.
I haven`t been doing anything on this branch lately as it`s far out on my tree. Good luck.
Mary
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Dear grandma,
I apologize for not posting sooner. Health problems.
I've lost track of the questions in this thread, so my answer might not be helpful. Agnes Craig married John McLay on 9 Jun 1871 in Hamilton, Lanarkshire. John was the son of Richard McLay and Catherine McFarlane. I believe Agnes was the daughter of William Craig and Jean O'Neil. Their children were Richard, Archibald, Jane Neil, Catherine McFarlane and William McLay. My marriage data comes from the parish register. Richard's birth is in the International Genealogical Index. There's a tree contributed to Ancestry.com that says Archibald was adopted, and his mother was Isabella Wallace. I found the family in the 1881 census in Hamilton with John's father Richard and the 1901 census in Holytown, Bothwell with Agnes' father William Craig.
My knowledge of Agnes Craig's grandparents, John Craig and Mary Gartshore, is more extensive. Let me know if that is where your interest lies. I promise to answer more promptly.
Geneaglutton