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Could someone please do a lookup for William & Mary Beattie & family in the 1861 or 1871 Census.
I know they had a daughter Elizabeth about 1860, I think they were from the Silloth area.
Thank you
Regards
geordielass
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Could this be they?. I haven't the faintest idea where Silloth is.
William Beattie 45 b Abbey Town, Cumberland Head ENGINE FITTER @ IRON WORKS
Mary Beattie 51 b Workington, Cumberland Wife
John Beattie 21 b MaryPort?, Cumberland Son
Mary Beattie 19 b Workington, Cumberland Daughter
Margaret Beattie 17 b Workington, Cumberland Daughter
Elizabeth Beattie 13 b Workington, Cumberland Daughter
Church Lane
RG10/5243 Cockermouth ,Workington Folio 75
Pauline
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Wow Pauline that was quick,
Thank you so much I do think they could be our branch of the family.
Silloth is on the same coast as Workington with Aspatria & Maryport in between them.
regards
geordielass
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If they are the correct family here they are in 1861.
Workington Cumberland
William Beattie Head mar 35 engine smith Abbey Holme Cumberland
Mary Beattie Wife 42 mar Workington, Cumberland
Ann J Beattie Daughter 14 Maryport, Cumberland
John Beattie Son 11 scholar Maryport, Cumberland
Mary B Beattie Daughter 9 scholar Workington, Cumberland
Margaret Beattie 8 scholar Workington, Cumberland
William Beattie Son 5 Workington, Cumberland
Elizabeth Beattie Daughter 5 Workington, Cumberland
Hope this helps,
Pam
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Hi Pam,
Thank you so much, I definitely do think they are our branch of the family.
Regards
geordielass
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Hi Geordilass.
My Grandmother was Jane Ann Beattie, actual birthplace in cumberland unknown, she was born around 1880 and married to Joseph Clark Hetherington in Great Clifton, Cumberland, It is quite possible we are related , they had I think; 12 Children. If you find anything interesting in your searches I would be grateful to hear from you because as of now, I have hit a wall......................Thanks...............Lawrence
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Hi Lawrence,
Elizabeth Beattie's parents were William & Mary Jane Beattie maiden name Coulthard. Elizabeth had a sister named Jane Ann Beattie, brothers Joseph Lowes Beattie & John William Beattie and a few other siblings.........so we could be connected.
Elizabeth Beattie was my great grandmother and she married John Haughan Taylor 1883. This John Taylor is my brick wall as he should no parents on marriage certificate and he was dead before 1891 census.
My cousin & I found 9 children but not all of them are confirmed.
Regards
geordielass
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I had a Hannah Beattie born in Mawbray (Abbey Holme parish) about 1804, but never found her baptism, or her marriage. The ones there in 1841 & 1851 were nailers.
Regards,
Stephen
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Hi Stephen
The Hannah Beattie you mention born 1804 Abbey Holme was my 3x Gt Grandmother.She married William Fearon and died in Keswick in 1874.Both Hanah and William are buried in the St Johns Church Keswick but their headstones are missing or have been overturned.I too cannot find her baptism or marriage records anywhere and I am unlikely to as I do not live in the UK so cannot visit the Carlisle Records Office to search manually. Any other info you find about Hannah would be very much appreciated by me.Best of luck
Sheila
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Hi Sheila,
I bought a birth cert years ago for one of Hannah's children, since there seemed no other way of finding out her maiden name. There is a Holm Cultram transcript at Carlisle RO, which I checked a few times in the past, but this family seemed to be largely absent from the records of the parish church. I've wondered if they were nonconformists of some sort.
I haven't thought about this family for a while, but I think I concluded that Hannah's parents were the following, who married at HC on 17 Aug 1799:
Willam Beattie of the Parish of Holm Cultram Bachelor aged 24 and Anne Messenger of same Parish Spinster aged 20 and upwards. Licence.
William Beattie
Ann Messenger
Thomas Messenger
Isaac Potts
I think the Beattie mentioned above is from the same family. A James Beatty married an Ann Wise in Annan on 12/6/1801 - "both of Abbeyholm" - and I believe he was William's brother.
I'm wondering if the Fearons maybe married by licence. I've seen printed Carlisle marriage bonds up to 1800. They also lived in Caldbeck at one point.
Best wishes,
Stephen
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Hi Stephen
Thanks for that. I came to the same conclusion with Anne Messenger however when I found a site with Gretna Green marriages on it there was a James Beatty married to Ann Messenger of Abbey Holme,England!!!! Something weird afoot here?
Happy hunting and many thanks
Sheila Fearon
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I got that marriage from an old CFHS newsletter - Strays from the marriage register of Annan. William and Ann appeared to have children called John (c.1800), James (c.1802), Hannah (c.1804) and William (1811/12). They have a Helena living with them at Skinburness in 1841 - not sure how she fits in. She turns up at Rock Ferry in 1871; Troutbeck 1881; died back in Wigton district in 1907 (BEATTIX on Freebmd).
I think William was the one baptized at Allonby 6 Jan 1775, and his parents were James Baty & Hannah Poole, married HC 23 Dec 1770. My theory is that this James had a brother George who married Tamar Skelton in 1772, and he was father of the James who married Wise (explaining his two/three sons called George).
Stephen