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Title: Blyth family
Post by: Pootle on Monday 15 February 10 15:57 GMT (UK)
I have hit a real brickwall with my research. I have a George Blyth in my tree who was born c.1815 in Scotland. He married Elizabeth Simmonds in 1848 Southampton. In the 1851 census he is a mariner, living in Southampton. I have a copy of his marriage certificate and his father was called David and he was a carpenter. So, where on earth do I go from here? I'd love to find out exactly where George came from. I have been told that the fact they have no 'e' on their surname is quite unusual.

If anyone has any helpful pointers I'd be very grateful. Thank you!
Title: Re: Blyth family
Post by: sancti on Tuesday 16 February 10 08:50 GMT (UK)
Any idea what his mother's name is?
Title: Re: Blyth family
Post by: cookies4 on Tuesday 16 February 10 16:17 GMT (UK)
I have hit a real brickwall with my research. I have a George Blyth in my tree who was born c.1815 in Scotland. He married Elizabeth Simmonds in 1848 Southampton. In the 1851 census he is a mariner, living in Southampton. I have a copy of his marriage certificate and his father was called David and he was a carpenter. So, where on earth do I go from here? I'd love to find out exactly where George came from. I have been told that the fact they have no 'e' on their surname is quite unusual.

If anyone has any helpful pointers I'd be very grateful. Thank you!

A blanket search at FREECEN for David Blyth gives 24 results. One of these is a Joiner living at Edinburgh (although he wasn't born there) with his wife Margaret.

How you go about discovering if if this is your David is another story. As far as I can tell he is not on the 1851 census.

Regards,
Nel
Title: Re: Blyth family
Post by: lyndyloo6 on Sunday 21 February 10 21:06 GMT (UK)
I have David Blyth in my tree b c1851.  He was a brass moulder.  His father was a maste baker in Leith.

regards,
Lynda
Title: Re: Blyth family
Post by: Pootle on Monday 22 February 10 11:06 GMT (UK)
Thank you all for your replies.

Sancti - no, I don't know his mother's name.

Nel - thank you, that does sound like a possibility. As you say though, proving that's the right one is going to be hard.

Lynda - did your David have a son?

I am sure I'll get there in the end. Although frustrating, this is the best part of family history - the research and then proving it!

Title: Re: Blyth family
Post by: purplekat on Wednesday 24 February 10 10:55 GMT (UK)
Hi Pootle

Have you checked out the Scotlands People website?  If you go to the 1841 census search put Blyth then David in the name search then put in George for the second person forename and keep the search on all records and all areas there are three matches.  As you may know you need credits to view the matches,below is a rootschat link for advice on getting 10 free credits for Scotlands People:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,436939.0.html

Obviously you'll still have the problem of not knowing his mother's name, (why can't English certs be more like Scottish certs  ;D  ;D)

Have you found George in the 1861 census?  I'm thinking if you knew the area he was born in you could check out what info the local history society has to offer, (apologies if I'm telling you what you already know)

I'm researching the Blyth family, unfortunately as far as I can see at the moment no connection with yours but who knows, maybe there is at some point.  My Blyth family lived in the Dumfries area.


Jean  :)
Title: Re: Blyth family
Post by: solipsistic on Friday 14 February 14 22:56 GMT (UK)
Hi,
My grandfather is George Pennycook Blyth (b. 12 Sep 1919 in Scotland.  d. 16 Nov 1993 in Port Burwell ON)  who married Margaret Evelyn Brackenbury.  His father, also George Pennycook Blyth married Margaret Mitchell.  My Grandfather emigrated to Canada with his family in 1925 on the steamship Montreal. I'm wondering if this might be the same family line?
Title: Re: Blyth family
Post by: Forfarian on Saturday 15 February 14 00:25 GMT (UK)
I have been told that the fact they have no 'e' on their surname is quite unusual.

It may be true in the 20th and 21st centuries, but spelling variations are meaningless in earlier times, so I would not attach any significance whatsoever to the presence or absence of a final 'e'.

A quick search on Scotland's People reveals that there are no baptisms of Blyths, but two of Blythes, before 1855, and six Blyths but no Blythes from 1855 to 2012. There are three marriages of Blyths, and none of Blythes, and there are eight deaths of Blyths, but none of Blythes.

Therefore in Scotland the spelling without the 'e' is commoner than the spelling with the 'e'.
Title: Re: Blyth family
Post by: Thedreamer on Friday 09 September 22 08:05 BST (UK)
Hello, I’m a Blyth and I live in Dumfries and Galloway. My family are from Dumfries and Galloway (Castle Douglas). I have all their history. However I don’t think they are connected to the Blyth family you are researching.
Title: Re: Blyth family
Post by: Thedreamer on Friday 09 September 22 08:15 BST (UK)
Hi Pootle

Have you checked out the Scotlands People website?  If you go to the 1841 census search put Blyth then David in the name search then put in George for the second person forename and keep the search on all records and all areas there are three matches.  As you may know you need credits to view the matches,below is a rootschat link for advice on getting 10 free credits for Scotlands People:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,436939.0.html (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,436939.0.html)

Obviously you'll still have the problem of not knowing his mother's name, (why can't English certs be more like Scottish certs  ;D  ;D)

Have you found George in the 1861 census?  I'm thinking if you knew the area he was born in you could check out what info the local history society has to offer, (apologies if I'm telling you what you already know)

I'm researching the Blyth family, unfortunately as far as I can see at the moment no connection with yours but who knows, maybe there is at some point.  My Blyth family lived in the Dumfries area.


Jean  :)

Hello Jean, I may be able to help you with your research on the Blyth family in Dumfries. I am a Blyth and I live in Dumfries and Galloway and I have  all my family history
Title: Re: Blyth family
Post by: purplekat on Monday 19 September 22 19:14 BST (UK)
Hi
Apologies I have just noticed your message.  My Blyth family were from Leadhills and Moffat.  The family were well known in Moffat in the 19th and early 20th Century.  My GG Grandmother, Lucy Blyth died in 1913 aged 101.  Do you think there might be a connection?  :)
Title: Re: Blyth family
Post by: Thedreamer on Tuesday 20 September 22 17:27 BST (UK)
Hi Jean, my family lived in Castle Douglas. They were market gardeners. My great uncle was head gardener at Threave and my family lived at Threave lodge there for a few decades. His brother made headlines because his family (his wife, himself and 13 children) all emigrated to Canada. There may be a connection somewhere to your family. Who knows!

https://www.dailyrecord.co.uk/news/local-news/biggest-family-leave-scotland-canada-2541117.amp
Title: Re: Blyth family
Post by: purplekat on Thursday 22 September 22 19:25 BST (UK)
This is very interesting, it would be great to find a connection. My gg and ggg grandfather's were both named Robert Blyth. If you're ever in Moffat and go to the park there is a tree there, known by locals as the 'Blyth' tree.  My gg grandmother Lucy Blyth planted a tree in honour of George V's visit to Scotland in 1911 because at 99 she was the oldest person in Moffat, she lived to be 101.  :)