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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => London and Middlesex => Topic started by: aggiebagwash on Monday 15 February 10 09:28 GMT (UK)
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I've found the death of a friends grandfather in St Marylebone. The death certificate says he was cremated. Is there any way I could contact the local crematorium to find out any details?
He was a mysterious man and nothing is known about him for at least 30 years before his death so I would like to find out a bit more about his life somehow.
Margaret
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I've found the death of a friends grandfather in St Marylebone. The death certificate says he was cremated.
I've never seen that on a death certificate before. All I can think of is the informant being the person "causing the burial or cremation".
Which column was the information in?
St Marylebone comes under Westminster (although this hasn't always been the case) so you should contact the Cemeteries Department of Westminster City Council.
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He died in Luxborough Lodge Home for the Elderly. I think the informant was a member of staff because under his name it says causing the body to be cremated so he obviously authorised the cremation.
I always thought that you needed two MD signatures for a cremation?
I will email the address you gave me and see if they can help me with this mysterious man.
Thank you for your help.
Margaret
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Westminster Archives have an information sheet on Cemetery Registers
http://www.westminster.gov.uk/workspace/assets/publications/Info-Sheet-07-Cemetery-Regs-1243520240.pdf
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Thank you so much. As I don't live near London and am don't know my way round where the records are kept I am walking on uncharted territory at the moment so any information is gratefully received.
Margaret
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Hi Margaret
The registers for cemeteries/crematoria in Westminster are kept at Hanwell.
The St Marylebone Cemetery, renamed East Finchley, has the crematorium for the area.
http://www.westminster.gov.uk/services/communityandliving/burials/
The web site isn't as good as it could be for providing information.
They don't have an email address so you'll have to phone.
Let us know how you get on for the benefit of other chatters who find your topic in the future.
Dawn
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I will do Dawn I've been a genealogist for over 30 years and I am still learning from so many people because I keep hitting these brickwalls.
I can't thank people enough for all their support and I always try and reciprocate when I can.
I will let you know if I find anything.
Margaret
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Dawn I had another look at the Westminster Archives website and there is an email contact section(not an open email address) it's just above the map that gives direction to the Archive.
I've sent them an email and hopefully they will get back to me over the next few days.
Margaret
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I've had dealings with St Marylebone crematorium in the past and my enquiry was forwarded to Hanwell Cemetery ~
hanwell @ cemcrem.com
Tel: 0208 567 0913
The cemetery manager was very helpful in my case, so I hope you get just as lucky.
Suzi
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Thanks Dawn I'll contact Hanwell and see what data they have for the 1960's.
Margaret
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Dawn
I've not heard from Hanwell Crem but I did get a reply to an email from Westminster Archives. It didn't tell me much more than I already knew but gave the undertakers name and the name of the Minister who took the service. He was from St Luke's Church.
I got the email address from the Westminister Archive web site. I initially thought it was an open address for the local council but thought I would give it a go and the archive obviously got it somehow.
Now all I need to find now is some info on Luxborough Home for the Elderly. I don't know if it was a long term Care Home or a hospital for the elderly.
Thanks for all your help. I appreciate it so much.
Margaret :)
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It was me that put you in the direction of Hanwell Crem, but sorry that you've not heard back from the yet!
If you google Luxborough Lodge, which is in or near Baker Street, you should get qute a few leads and possibly some interesting information which may take you a further step nearer your goal.
Good luck ~ Suzi
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Sorry Suzi hope I didn't offend you. Hanwell may reply but it's been over a week since I emailed them. I'll leave it for another week and then I may snailmail them.
I'll try googling Luxborough Lodge. Thank you for your help.
Margaret
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No problem whatsoever!
My enquiry to Hanwell was for death information 1940/1950 and I have since been able to find the grave. Hope you get as lucky.
Luxborough Lodge was also Marylebone Workhouse, so there's loads of info to find. However, it was demolished in the 60's and is now a university!! Westminster City Council may have some info as well.
Suzi
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Thanks I will email them later. I'm sure if it was anything like the workhouses in this area around 1947 they just built around them and now they are all large hospitals.
I can understand the health authority making it into a home though if there wasn't room to expand the building significantly then a Rest/ Care Home would be a more suitable use.
Margaret