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Title: Pensford/Publow Look Up
Post by: chrisnick636 on Friday 05 February 10 14:38 GMT (UK)

I am hoping there is someone out there who could look up a marriage for me in the pensford/publow parish registers.  It took place around 1809 between James Price (a farrier) and Mary.  I would like to know the exact date and Mary's maiden name.  I am also looking for the birth of a Mary Flower, father John Flower (plasterer) around 1821.

Title: Re: Pensford/Publow Look Up
Post by: Jo Harding on Friday 05 February 10 16:52 GMT (UK)

I cannot find a marriage for this couple on Freereg.

There is a baptism for a Mary FLOWER IN Publow, All Saints, 03/10/1824, daughter of John and Elizabeth FLOWER of Publow. Occupation: Blacksmith.

You can search Freereg to see if there are any other possibilities

http://www.freereg.org.uk

Jo

Title: Re: Pensford/Publow Look Up
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 05 February 10 22:15 GMT (UK)

Although the occupation is wrong (blacksmith not plasterer ) it may be of interest to note these families are next door neighbours in 1841

1841 census

HO107/947/13 Folio 6 Page 6
Pensford

PRICE James 57 Y Farrier
PRICE Mary 58 Y
PRICE Richard 19 Y
PRICE Charles 17 Y
PRICE Ann 12 Y

next door

FLOWER John 44 Y Blacksmith
FLOWER Elizabeth 45 Y
FLOWER Mary 16 Y
FLOWER James 10 Y
FLOWER Sarah 6 Y


Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Pensford/Publow Look Up
Post by: krisesjoint on Friday 05 February 10 22:45 GMT (UK)

1851 census

HO107/1938 Folio 296 Page 28
Down
Pensford

PRICE James Head 67 Mar b Publow Farrier
PRICE Mary Wife 68 Mar b Publow
PRICE Eliz Granddau 22 Unm b Publow Servant
COBLEY Ann Dau Mar 22b b Publow Miners Wife
COBLEY George Grand son 6 Months b Publow

and close by we have

HO107/1938 Folio 294 Page 24
Pensford

FLOWER Elizabeth Head 60 Widow b Publow Waherwoman
FLOWER James Son 21 Un B Publow Blacksmith
FLOWER Sarah Dau 17 b Publow Stay Stitcher
PRICE James Grandson 4 b Publow

and presumably the connection 1851

HO107/1938 Folio 297 Page 31
Down
Pensford

PRICE Chas Head 24 b Publow Farrier
PRICE Mary Wife 24 B Publow
PRICE Wm Son 2 b Publow
PRICE Made Dau 7 Months b Publow

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Pensford/Publow Look Up
Post by: chrisnick636 on Saturday 06 February 10 11:55 GMT (UK)

Thanks Kris!

The problem I now have is this:  James & Mary Price had a son Thomas, born 1816 who married a Mary Flower, born 1821.  The confusing thing is they were married in Bristol on 14 Sept 1840 three months before their first child (Mary) was born also in Bristol.  They then moved back to Pensford and are noted on the 1841 census.  I can't find a record of a birth for a Mary Flower around 1816 and the only one I have found is the Mary Flower living next door to the Price's born 1824.  You have mentioned it to me already.

I am beginning to suspect that the Mary next door and Mary Price are one and the same and may have been sent away to get married and have the baby but it doesn't explain why she is mentioned in the 1841 census twice or why she has given her father's occupation as a plasterer on the marriage certificate when he is a blacksmith.  Also, it would mean that Thomas was 25 and Mary 16 at the time of the marriage.

One step forward two steps back!!

Thanks
Chris

Title: Re: Pensford/Publow Look Up
Post by: chrisnick636 on Saturday 06 February 10 12:04 GMT (UK)

Thanks Jo!

The free reg link has proved very helpful finding the christening dates of the children.  I still can't find the Mary Flower born 1821 though and now suspect she was born in 1824.

Thanks again
Chris

Title: Re: Pensford/Publow Look Up
Post by: krisesjoint on Saturday 06 February 10 12:32 GMT (UK)

Hi Chris,

Well I certainly got ahead of myself there didn't I thinking young Mary must have married Charles.  :-[

Why do you think this Mary who married Thomas was from Publow? married in Bristol, she gives Bristol as her POB in 1851

1841 census

HO107/375/8 folio 12 page 19
Rose St
Temple
Bristol

FLOWER John 70 Y  Plasterer
FLOWER Jane 65 Y
FLOWER John 25 Y Glazier

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Pensford/Publow Look Up
Post by: chrisnick636 on Saturday 06 February 10 12:47 GMT (UK)

Hi Kris

I made the fatal mistake and 'guessed' her place of birth was Publow as on the 1841 census it's given as Somerset and I think at that time Bristol was Gloucestershire.  I also assumed that as there were so many Flowers in Pensford/Publow it must be right. 

I can't believe you have found them in Bristol as I have been searching on Ancestry for weeks and not found them.  You are right though, on the birth certificate their daughter Mary was born in Rose Street and they were married in Temple Church.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH!!   ;D

Chris


 

Title: Re: Pensford/Publow Look Up
Post by: krisesjoint on Saturday 06 February 10 12:55 GMT (UK)

You are welcome Chris. Glad to help.  ;D

Bristol was actually Somerset in 1841.

Alas I can't find your James PRICE = Mary marriage. The only one I can find in Somerset was in Walcot in 1805

Cheers Kris  :)

Title: Re: Pensford/Publow Look Up
Post by: Dorothy Hill on Saturday 06 February 10 21:09 GMT (UK)

Hello,     It is confusing when looking for place of birth etc.  A part of  Bristol - Bedminster - was in Somerset.   Most of the other parts were in Gloucestershire.  Bristol became a County in its own right back in history but it was still  named as being in Somerset, or Gloucestershire, or, horrors !!!, the disbanded county of Avon. 

Dorothy

Title: Re: Pensford/Publow Look Up
Post by: cobb113 on Thursday 01 April 10 23:05 BST (UK)

i do have the parash records for bouth publow and pensford if you would like a copy it is on excell format please let me know if you are intrested

Regards Gary