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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Surrey => Topic started by: jibba on Wednesday 03 February 10 17:16 GMT (UK)
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I'm looking for old newspaper articles in the Croydon area to find out the circumstances of the death of Benjamin Ellis, who died on Croydon Common on 9 April 1838 aged 45/46. Time of death was at 7pm. Cause of death was a ruptured blood vessel.
I'm trying to find out if this was a natural death or something more sinister. Can anyone point me in the right direction please?
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I think the Croydon Advertiser has been going for donkey's years. I Googled it, and found it is still going strong.
meles
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Indeed it has, but after looking around, it turns out that the Advertiser started in 1869 :(
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Local newspapers were rather thin on the ground for the date you are interested in, because they were still heavily taxed and regulated, which made them expensive and uneconomic to produce. Where they did exist, they contained relatively little local news.
The various sections of the NEWSPLAN site are very useful for finding out what papers were existence for particular places and periods
http://www.newsplan.co.uk/laser_newsplan/modules.php?name=home
I did a quick search for Croydon 1838 and found nothing, but a bit more exploration might come up with something
Good luck anyway
Mean_genie
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Have you tried to contact Croydon Local archives, as I had a death in Norwood in 1855 and they have all newspapers on film even the ones before The Advertiser. Although newspapers going back that far only seem to be very restricted on what they report but it's worth a try.
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Hi
The date for local newspapers flourishing was 1855 when the tax on paper was abolished.
https://wiki.familysearch.org/en/England_Newspapers
The earliest Croydon local newspaper appears to be the The Croydon Chronicle and East Surrey Advertiser which started in 1855.
If you put Croydon into the British Library newspaper search engine you get a list of all the newspapers they hold and the dates of publishing.
http://catalogue.bl.uk/F/?func=file&file_name=find-b&local_base=NPL
Other than the shortly lived Crystal Palace Gazette; and Sydenham, Norwood, & Croydon Advertiser which published 2 editions in 1853 and the Surrey Mercury; Guildford, Kingston, Epsom, Dorking, Croydon, Reigate, Farnham & Chertsey Agricultural Journal (which would have concentrated on farming matters) 1845-1847 the only other newspapers would have been at county level and not even one county level.
The County chronicle, and weekly advertiser, for Essex, Herts, Kent, Surrey, Middlesex 1780-1841
Brighton Herald; or, Sussex, Surrey, Hampshire & Kent Advertiser 1806-1902
Regards
Valda
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Who was the informant on the certificate?
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Hi
The informant was his wife, Sarah Ellis. Beside her name and the familiar 'X', nothing else is written
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Hi
If the death was not considered natural there would have been an inquest and the informant would have been the Coroner.
Regards
Valda
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croydon local studies centre has all the newspapers you need .if there was an inquest it will surely be there. i found my great grandmothers inquest in there of 1937..hope you got good eyesight some pages are blurred. but it was fun looking at the advertisments too..
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just seen the date you wanted. em try the london gazette or the surrey advertiser.. ::)
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Hi
The London Gazette is a highly specialised newspaper
'The London Gazette’s historical position as the Official Newspaper of Record for the United Kingdom has enabled it to develop into a unique bank of information. It is a cross-governmental resource, bringing together data from numerous official sources and enabling users to cross-reference official information easily.
Information in the London Gazette is grouped into the following categories: State, Parliament, Ecclesiastical, Public Finance, Transport, Planning, Health, Environment, Water, Agriculture & Fisheries, Energy, Post & Telecom, Competition, Corporate Insolvency, Personal Insolvency, Companies & Financial Regulations, Partnerships, Societies Regulation, Personal Legal.'
see the history of the Surrey Advertiser here
http://www.newspaperdetectives.co.uk/surreyhisv2.htm
'The Surrey Advertiser was first printed on the 2nd of April 1864'.
see the previous post
The earliest Croydon local newspaper appears to be the The Croydon Chronicle and East Surrey Advertiser which started in 1855.
Regards
Valda
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Hi
Where would i find info about the death of my sceond cousin who died in 1966 who was only 17, the cause of death was a hit and run and the person was never found who caused her death. I was told the story was in a croydon newspaper so how would i find this info about the death..
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Hi
You would need to know the date of the death for a search in a newspaper. When you know that you could contact Croydon Local Studies and Archives about obtaining a copy of the newspaper report.
http://www.croydon.gov.uk/leisure/archives/
Regards
Valda
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Hi valda
Thankyou for the relpy thats what i don't know the date of death thats something i have to find out.
Thanks for the link
jew