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General => The Common Room => The Lighter Side => Topic started by: Jayson on Wednesday 03 February 10 13:49 GMT (UK)
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I was looking forward to another series of Time Team on Channel 4, which usually starts early January and finishes around March. However, I haven't seen any sign of it.
Has it been axed!
Jayson
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Apparently because of time tabling this year it is starting in March.
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That is also my understanding.
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It's been going that long ................. I find all that dashing about false excitement is a bit tedious now. My opinion anyway. Archaelogy isn't full of fast-moving digs that find things every five minutes, and it gives a pretty false impression.
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Whilst the series does give something of a false impression remember that the programme lasts one hour, which is an edited version of three days work.Since the early 1990s Archaeology has in the UK at any rate been largely developer led, whereby they have an archaeology team in in advance of constructional work, and it is of course the developer's objective to get the archaeology work done and out of the way just as quickly as possible.
Less construction work due to the economic recession has lessened the availability of this type of archaeology, and thus led to a loss of jobs in archaeology, and closures of a variety of units.
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If you're getting withdrawl symptoms and need a "fix" ;D
Try
http://www.channel4.com/programmes/time-team/4od
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I find all that dashing about false excitement is a bit tedious now
I worked on one of the Time Team digs a few years back (as an archeology student from the local tech, I had to wash any finds) and you are right that dashing about is completely false. Hardly anything was found - and no-one expected much, as we all knew the "real" stuff was in the next field and professional archeologists were already at work there. Someone found what might have been the remains of a footpath (Roman) and it was hours later, that the "Dash" started, with all the cameramen in place etc.
I've never watched the programme since, it was all so false and set up.
Lizzie
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Although the programme isn't perfect, it's far better than most of the rubbish that one sees on the box nowadays - especially celeb based programmes. I wonder if they will do a piece on all that wonderful gold that was discovered recently in Lichfield?
Jay :)
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I went on a dig in the Humber levels, Adlingfleet, in the top layer a colleague found a neolithic scraper, two feet down a 303 cartridge was found, there were similar mixed up finds all day. A trip to the archive showed why, at the time a local railway line had been built the entire area had been infilled to prevent flooding. All the finds were entirely out of context.
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Even if the programmes have got more and more formulated as the years have rolled on, it's still an enjoyable hour of TV viewing and I shall be watching when the new series finally arrives.
Carole
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Well, we get it in Australia and I really enjoy it! Even if it is "set up", it's still interesting and informative. I'm hoping we will get more of it here soon.
MarieC
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I know from a distant relative in the USA that Time Team is popular there too!
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Although the programme isn't perfect, it's far better than most of the rubbish that one sees on the box nowadays - especially celeb based programmes.
WDYTYA isn't that bad lol ;)
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I've never watched the programme since, it was all so false and set up.
Lizzie
Lizzie, I'm not quite sure what you expected.
When finished, T.V. programmes, even factual ones, look nothing like the actual making of the programme. There is all the editing, setting up of the scenes/takes etc. to give the viewer the finished article. I'm sure even the programmes David Attenborough makes look false and set up when they are being made.
T.T. wouldn't be worth watching if they showed it as it is when being made. It would appear contrived, slow and, well, boring. The idea is to entertain, so sit back and enjoy.!
Funny this should come up as I was wondering where T.T. had got to. Plenty of repeats shown on Saturday mornings on one of the Freeview channels.
:)
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Time Team is partly responsible for honing and nurturing my latent interest in history and all things old - including genealogy! - something they couldn't manage the whole time I was at school, where often it seemed we learned about nothing but dead kings and queens and WWII ! I've watched it since the early days, many moons ago and will continue to watch until Phil gets bored with flint!
It's edutainment (and on Channel 4 at that - hardly known for their fact based documentaries ::) ) which is why lovely Baldrick/Tony front's it rather than some stuffy droning egghead from Exeter University.
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PS And my kids love it too - and there's not many programmes we can agree on these days!
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Time Team can be interesting, though the sites they investigate often turn up little in the way of finds. The best one from my viewpoint was Hylton Castle in Sunderland, where my great great grandfather lived - nice to see a bit of one's family history on TV. My great great uncle left a few paragraphs on his life as a child growing up in a real castle.
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I think I meant by false and set up, that even though they could have filmed the very few finds as and when they were found, they almost had to set the scene and get Tony Robinson to rush around unnecessarily.
The other thing that astounded me were the number of young things walking around with clipboards under their arms, apparently doing nothing. I'm sure they were all very important, but I didn't see them doing anything.
Lizzie
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It's all part of Time Team tony Robinson rushing around like a mad thing. Usually a dig is slow and painstaking and everyone moving round at a leisurely pace. Doesn't make good television. Since Time team started departments at University that were due for closure due to lack of interest have not only stayed open but got increased funding. Is anyone really naive to think programmes are just shot as it happens and then edited? Its a mixture of shooting as it happens and some restaging. Just like in these auction programmes they always finish with the item that makes the most money.
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Time Team is one of my favourite shows. I appreciate that the filming is not "live", as in, the cameras are always rolling. Tony rushing about isn't my favourite part of the story, but others may like this. it's great to hear about the universities receiving funding for their history/archaeology departments, anything which increases young peoples' interest in history is OK by me. might even lead to more interest in the REAL genealogy, ie, peoples' lives, rather than just name grabbing.
Jude
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Is anyone really naive to think programmes are just shot as it happens and then edited?
No I'm not naive enough to think that, what I was saying was that the impression is given that something is found and then Tony rushes over to look at it, (even if filmed some time later) when what happened (at least on the programme I was on) was that something was found and quite a long time later Tony was filmed rushing - but not actually to the thing that had been found - what was the point of that, if they want him to run, why not get him to run to the part of the field they want to film. Like Jude, I don't like the parts of the programme where Tony is rushing about and, as it comes across in the programme Phil did get slightly annoyed with this.
Lizzie
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It's exactly what annoys me. Tedious film of Tony rushing about, generating (they think) an air of real excitement. Yeah.
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Real archaeology can be very slow. Just spent two days at Kimmeridge Bay as part of Poole Harbour Copperas and Alum project, cleaning a face for future sampling. (Yes we had a permit from EH). Total finds in two days work, one stainless steel knife, one pork chop bone, and one newly dead seagull. But that's all too often real archaeology.
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Yes that's why I think they do pretty well with their finds. I find it quite astonishing what they do find.
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Sometimes, but not in my experience often, there are plenty of finds.Maybe they're just lucky!!
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Don't care - I love Time Team. Have been watching it since it first started and never tire of it. It's great viewing. :)
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Real archaeology can be very slow
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Yup, just like real genealogy - which can take many years of hard slog , nothing like the two week shoot crammed into a one hour programme that the Beeb puts out on WDYTYA.
"x has found in the census in rainy London that her long lost ancestors came from Timbuktoo, so she's just flying off there straight away (first class of course) to speak for a minute or two to a local expert who just happens to have done a mountain of research on her behalf. And here it is, all tied up in a pink bow with chocolate on the top..."
Jealous? Me....? >:(
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Absolutely, Ann. Been looking for my 2XGGF for 14 years.
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Phil did get slightly annoyed with this.
Lizzie
Phil is my favourite i love the banter between him and tony,which isn't in the script i don't think.Many is the time when Tony has upset Phil and has had to make a quick exit,to avoid Phil's spade ;D Tony once got told off for stepping on something and Phil went mad so another quick exit was made ;D
Celia
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Absolutely, Ann. Been looking for my 2XGGF for 14 years
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Oh don't say that. I've been stuck on my 3xggf for 2. The thought of another 12 might just push me over the edge... :'(
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I am told is Phil is certainly someone you don't want to cross. Not all "real archeology takes several weeks or years. There are a lot of quick digs like Time team to assess site when a building has been knocked down before the builders start digging it all up and laying new foundations. This kind of archeology has a time limit as delays cost money. Time Team does do specials on longer digs such as the one at Canterbury. They also do bits where a dig is already taking place, presumably because they have better equipment plus get the present dig a bit of publicity. Never understood why "real archeologists" complain as the digs are always supervised by trained archeologists and Mick has said he's always done short assessmnet digs before Time Team came along.
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They did two very interesting progammes on the Coventry Cathedral dig a while back, because there
was simply too much to cover in one programme. I am biased because it is my home city, but I learnt a lot about the history.
Phil and his hat are my favourites too!
Elin
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Phil and his hat are my favourites too!
;D And his straggly hair and long nails too, bless him. Could do with a little TLC ;)
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Phil is one of the experts. His real job is archaelogy.
http://www.channel4.com/history/microsites/T/timeteam/biog_phil.html
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His real job is archaelogy.
That's not his job, it's his passion. He just happens to get paid for it. ;)
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I have always quite enjoyed Time Team.
Does anyone remember when TT dug up gold buckets in the field somewhere (sorry cant remember where) and then they re-buried them and threw loads of nails around the field to confuse the metal detectors.
Why did they do that and not have them in a museum somewhere for all of us to see?
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Phil and his hat are my favourites too!
;D And his straggly hair and long nails too, bless him. Could do with a little TLC ;)
Anyone else thinks he looks like Wurzel Gummidge??
Love Time Team, running round, quick digs, don't find anything..........don't care, love the programme. ;D
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Anyone else thinks he looks like Wurzel Gummidge??
;D Ha that's so mean - and so true. Sounds like him too sometimes! Love 'im!
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Oh don't get me wrong........I adore the guy he's so...........so!!! ;D ;D
Actually it's a compliment..........I love Worzel Gummidge too ;) ;)
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Oh yes, I love Worzel Gummidge too! And Phil! ;)
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Perhaps we should start a Worzel/Phil fan club ;D ;D
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Perhaps we should start a Worzel/Phil fan club ;D ;D
Count me in ;D
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Ooooooooh..............be still my.......trowel!!! :D :D
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oh please no more ::) ::)
its not been as good since the delectable dr alice roberts stopped appearing on the show 8) 8) 8)
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Nah.........It's Worzel that makes it. :P
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why dont he change his head now and again like the real worzel instead of leaving that turnip on ;D ;D ;D
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Now now Perth...........jealousy makes you spiteful............ ;D ;D ;D
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dont forget ........... and bitter ;) ;)
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Don't mind a half of bitter......makes me burp thought...... :-\ :-\
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Bitter!
Is that what Phil is swigging when they invariably wind up in the pub ???
Phil's my idol too, I think it his accent ;D
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I always thought it was cider, or guiness in the Irish time teams.
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Not dark enough for Guinness........ :D :D
Could be a pint of Whiskey........that would account for his accent as well!! ::)
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I'm surre it be a pint of ciderrr for our Phil.
(I never was good at accents ;))
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I have seen guiness drunk on Irish located Time Teams, along with Irish and Scottish cough mixture as appropriate according to the location.
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I think Phil's preferred tipple is bitter, but I've seen him drinking anything and everything on TT. I'm not familiar with Alice Roberts Perth .... :-\ so I'm sure she's not important. ;D
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Alice is the anthropologist with the dyed red hair. Has recently had her own series on BBC and published a book. Not with TT now.
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She's the artist/anthropologist on Coast too, isn't she. A bit grungy and way too young to be that bright.
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Don't mean to hijack the thread but, Ellin, who are your Kelly's in Liverpool? I know it's a common name, but my Sarah Kelly's parent's were Thomas and Ann, they lived various streets in the Toxteth Park area. Legend has it that Thomas was from N.Ireland, possibly Belfast area, but I haven't gone back that far in that line yet. Sound familiar? If so, PM me.
Ann
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Ann, You share my sentiments about Alice!
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Alice is the anthropologist with the dyed red hair. Has recently had her own series on BBC and published a book. Not with TT now.
Ah yes, I rmember her now.
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I for one hope it hasn't been axed. I'm sure they'll find something one of these days :-\
Paul.
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It starts March 14th at 7pm according to the latest information.
http://www.timeteam.k1z.com/index.php?pid=25
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;D
Great.