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Title: Paley family
Post by: jamsuzsar on Wednesday 03 February 10 10:37 GMT (UK)
Could anyone out there know of a Paley family 10 children born in the Kent area from 1875-1901.  At least 3 immigrated.  Father was Walter Paley and mother was Ellen Rycroft.

Jam of Australia
Title: Re: Paley family
Post by: MaryA on Wednesday 03 February 10 11:18 GMT (UK)
You really need some more details before anybody could help, such as names or dates of a couple of the children.  You may be serching in the wrong county as the only marriage I could find for the information you give is

Walter Townsend Paley Q4 1880 Chapel en le Frith  7b 1253.  There is an Ellen Rycroft listed as one of the possible brides.

Chapel en le Frith  is in Derbyshire not Kent.
Title: Re: Paley family
Post by: MaryA on Wednesday 03 February 10 11:28 GMT (UK)
This couple gets around, I suspect I have the right people in the 1891 census

30 Coventry Street, Brighton Sussex
Walter T Paley Head M 36 Coal Merchant's Collector Lancashire, Preston
Ellen Wife M 29 Cheshire, Birkenhead
Walter T Son 3 Sussex, Brighton
George T son 2 " "
Dorothy M T daur 1 " "
RG12; Piece:  820; Folio  64; Page  41

Do these names ring any bells with you?
Title: Re: Paley family
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 03 February 10 11:43 GMT (UK)
Hi,

If  MaryA has the right couple, then here's Walter's christening, found on the IGI (extracted record):


Walter Townsend Paley    24 August 1854  St.John, Preston Lancashire


Parents:  John Gartside Paley & Rachall



Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Paley family
Post by: MaryA on Wednesday 03 February 10 11:56 GMT (UK)
I was beginning to doubt I had the right people, since there's quite a number of years before their first obvious child, but now I see where Kent comes into this

1901
9 London Road, Southborough, Kent
Walter Paley Head M 46 Cattle Dealer on his own account Lancashire Preston
Ellen Wife M 39 Cheshire Birkenhead
Walter son 14 Sussex Brighton
George son 12 " "
Dorothy daur 11 " "
Gwendoline daur 8 " "
Eileen daur 7 " "
Edward son 5 " "
Victoria daur 3 " "
James son 7 months Kent Southboro
RG13; Piece:  756; Folio:  91; Page:  25.
Title: Re: Paley family
Post by: nanny jan on Wednesday 03 February 10 12:05 GMT (UK)
Hi,

FreeBMD has some Paley births/deaths in Sussex that seem to fit:

Cyril Townsend Paley      d  SepQ 1886 Steyning         aged 4 years

Charles Harry T Paley     b MarQ 1886   d JunQ 1887  aged 1       both in Steyning

Might explain the "gap"  :-\


Nanny Jan
Title: Re: Paley family
Post by: MaryA on Wednesday 03 February 10 12:16 GMT (UK)
Don't know when they emigrated, but at sometime they moved to the Middlesex area as around about 1910-1912 they are living in the Edmonton district, Walter claims he's 50, Ellen 45, Dorothy 21, Gwendoline 19, Eileen 17, Edward 15, Victoria 13, James 11 and Philip 8.  Somebody else living with them called Lawrence Schwabe aged 57.  I suspect they moved there between the births of Victoria and James since James and Philip's birthplaces are NOT Brighton.
Title: Re: Paley family
Post by: MaryA on Wednesday 03 February 10 12:39 GMT (UK)
With Nanny Jan's help we can go back a bit further.

1871 see's 16 year old Walter as a pupil in the District Rossall College, Northern Church of England School, in Poulton Le Fylde, Thornton, Lancashire.
RG10; Piece:  4224; Folio:  147; Page:  7

Alice Clara Paley is a 15 year old pupil at Castlemore House, Castleton, Lancashire.
RG10; Piece:  4118; Folio:  122; Page:  36

1861
3 St James Place, Dickenson Road, Rusholme, Lancashire
James S? Paley Head M 34 Coal Agent Lancashire Moston
Rachael Wife M 33 Lancashire Rochdale
Frederick S Son 8 Scholar Lancashire Preston
Walter T son 6 " " "
Alice C daur 5 " " "
Isabella Gregson servant Un 28 Domestic Servant Lancashire Poulton
Jane Williams Servant Un 15 " Cheshire Bromborough
RG9; Piece:  2874; Folio:  111; Page:  44
Title: Re: Paley family
Post by: MaryA on Wednesday 03 February 10 12:44 GMT (UK)
Death for Rachel Paley Q3 1866 Chorlton  8c 353 age 35
Death for James Gartside Paley Q2 1867 W. Derby  8b 337 age 40

Wonder what he was doing in Liverpool then?  I don't think you live in England so don't mistake the West Derby registration district for Derbyshire, it's in Lancashire, close to Liverpool.
Title: Re: Paley family
Post by: MaryA on Wednesday 03 February 10 12:49 GMT (UK)
Marriage for James Garside Paley Q4 1851  Rochdale  21 671, to Rachael Brierley.  This took place in St Chad, Rochdale.
Title: Re: Paley family
Post by: MaryA on Wednesday 03 February 10 13:28 GMT (UK)
Birth of James Garside Paley 14 March 1827   Saint John, Preston
Parents John Paley and Emily

same parents, same church
Henry Paley 21 September 1831   

Mary Alice Paley Christening:  13 May 1833   
Death:  26 OCT 1846   

Mary Paley 13 September 1847     
Eliza 17 April 1839   
Joshua Townsend Paley 2 April 1835   
Harriet Paley 10 March 1837 
Frederick William Paley 20 June 1845   
Thomas Paley 1 January 1843   

All above are extracted records from the Parish Register, but also there are a couple of entries submitted, so you should check the Register before accepting them

John Paley
Christening:  08 June 1825   Preston,
Death:  15 APR 1897

Emily 20 April 1829   Preston 
Ann  27 May 1841   Preston

The parents of these three are given as John Paley and Emily Garside.

There is another Paley family in Preston, their James is a little younger than yours, his parents are William and Ann but I suspect they are related somehow, perhaps John and William are brothers.

Marriage of John Paley to Emily Gartside 15 June 1824   Chorley, Lancashire
Title: Re: Paley family
Post by: SOPHIE S on Wednesday 03 February 10 21:01 GMT (UK)
hi all ive just started wit
h my family tree , does any one have these relatives of mine in there tree.

george henry chaney married elizabeth paley 9th oct 1889 in chelsea london

george and elizabeth are my great great grandparents.

many thanks would love to hear from you.
Title: Re: Paley family
Post by: jamsuzsar on Friday 05 February 10 08:28 GMT (UK)
Thank you MaryA  and Nanny jan.  It will take me a white to get used to site.

Big thanks

Jam