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Research in Other Countries => United States of America => US Lookup Requests => Topic started by: Moinear on Tuesday 02 February 10 21:59 GMT (UK)
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I woud be grateful if someone could look up some of my ancestors who immegrated to the US.
The first is the 1910 Census;
Micheal Halligan, born in Co Kilkenny, Ireland in 1885. He arrived in Ellis Island in 1909. At the time his sponsor was his uncle Patrick Phelan with an address in Searing Avenue, East Newark.
This Patrick Phelan himself travelled to the US in 1895, he should be in the 1900 Census.
Thanks in advance for your help.
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Have you got a date of birth for Patrick Phelan ?
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The 1900 Census is available for free here: http://labs.familysearch.org/
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Anc..try tree has a Michael Halligan born 1885 County Kilkenny married to a Mary Quann.
Not much info but 2 children born Ireland John and Anna - 2 children in USA Billy and Eileen.
Michaels death on this one is 1951 County Kilkenny. Does this ring any bells ? ???
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Patrick Phelan was born in Co Kilkenny, Ireland around 1873. Hope this helps.
That Family Tree sounds spot on. Can you tell me how can I access it??
Thanks for all your help.
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Hi Moinear.
It would need an anc...try subscription - i will have another look but I don't think it gave any further information. Meanwhile I'll take a look at Patrick to see what I can find. There were quite a number of Michaels and Patricks with those surnames that could have been them - its trying to narrow the search to get the right one. ;D
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Any more clues you night have may help us find them. ???
This is a possibility - looks like Patrick Phelan born Aug 1873 in Ireland and living on the 1900 census at East 39th Street. Manhattan, New York. Servant. Immigrated 1894 No further information. Living with a family and other roomers/lodgers etc.
Patrick Phelan Age 27 ???
Looking at the passenger lists for Patrick Phelan 1873 birth has entries for 1892/1896/1898 but there are a number of others born 1871/1875. Dates can vary so he could be any of them
Still quite a number of choices -
Do you know if he married ?
Did he have a brothers called Michael and Phillip ?
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Boston. Massachusetts Passenger List for 2 Dec 1894. SS Pavonia. Queenstown - Boston. Massachusetts. Patrick Phelan born 1875, last residence Kilkenny. Occupation:- Baker. Had $50. Passage paid by father. Final destination in USA Cambridge. Going to see cousin Mrs Hennesey. Cambridge. Massachusetts. ???
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Not sure but I might have had a piece of luck on the passenger lists. Bearing in mind the information on the Anc..try tree which may or may not be correct - I tried to find the children.
On the SS Celtic from Queenstown on the 21 June 1914 we have the following Halligan family.
Mary aged 29 - John aged 6 - AAnnie aged 5 and Eileen aged 4. The name of the nearest relative in the country from which they came was Aunt Ellen Quain of 2 Scotch Quay. Waterford. ;D
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Not such good luck after all. The Halligans came back again 11 July 1915 on the SS Philadelphia. New York - Liverpool. Intended destination:- Ballinlan. Shiverill. County Kilkenny.
Plus one extra Joseph Halligan age 1 :(
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The 20 Sept 1909 passenger list on the SS Celtic for Michael Halligan states he was a mariner so perhaps he never stayed in anyone place, especially if the family returned to Ireland. ???
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:)HI Dettori,
Thanks so much for all your help. You have the correct family. John Halligan travelled to the US in 1909 alone, his family stayed in Scotch Quay, Waterford (they are there for the 1911 census) Mary & 3 children travelled to the US to join Micheal in 1914 as you have found. I was really interested to find out how long they actually stayed in the US, as I kow they were back in Ireland in 1917 & was delighted to find that out. Can you confirm that both Micheal & Mary travelled back to Ireland in July1915 with their 4 children.
In the 1909 Ellis Island records (19th Sept 1909 on the Celtic) for Micheal Halligan it records that he was in the US previously in 1909 in New York. I have failed to find a record of his first entry. Have you any suggestions as to how I could follow this up?
Micheal calls himself a 'mariner' but his marriage cert from 1907 records hm as a 'shipwright' and other later documentation from 1930s states he is a 'ships carpenter'. The address that Mary Halligan gave on arival was that of her Micheal, her husband, as 288, Rector St., Perth Amboy. I have tried to follow this p, it appears to be on the harbour, so I presume there would have been work for a ships carpenter.
As for Patrick Phelan (Micheals uncle), I know his father was Micheal Phelan from Shambough, Co Kilkenny & he had a sister Anasatsia.
Thanks again for all your help, Moinear
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Hi Moinear.
That entry for 1915 only showed Mary and the children with the extra one Joseph.
Will have another look to see if I see him earlier than the 20 Sept 1909 ;D
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On the SS Teutonic 23 Sept 1905 a Michael Halligan going to a a sister Kate Halligan 217 Eric Street. Jersey City. New Jersey ???
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Sorry - another question. Was Anastatsia and Patrick the children of John Phelan 1832 Garnnbethy. Kilkenny and Ellen Frisby ? ???
No can't be - you said Michael. ???
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Hi Dettori,
I don't know if Micheal had a sister named Kate. The Ellis island record from 1909 stated that it was 1909 that he was previously in New York.
Is it possible to find when exactly Micheal Halligan returned to Ireland.
The father of Anastasia & Patrick was Micheal Phelan from Shambough, Co Kilkenny.
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I've been going through all the Michael Halligan passenger records but have'nt found anything concrete.
I found an Anastaia in the USA and a Patrick but they obviously belonged to the couple I mentioned, Kate would also belong to them, cooincidence they all lived in Kilkenny.
Don't know what to suggest now. ???
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Dettori,
You have been a great help. Thanks for all your time. If I get any further I'll let you know.
Moinear
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Yes. please come back if yu can get anymore information on Patrick Phelan - brothers and sisters etc - you never know what small piece of information suddenly opens up another avenue to search.
Good Luck.
;D
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Hi again, just thought that as Micheal Halligan was a ships carpenter, maybe he entered the US & returned to Ireland working his passage. I find it hard to believe that he would have stayed in the US when his family left in 1915 as the reason for their return was because Micheals 2 brothers were drowned in a boating accident. Is there anyway of checking a register of people working on ships???
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My thoughts are that he went back and forward. I was just looking at an entry for 3 Nov 1938. SS Harbledown. Liverpool via British Columbia to New York. A Michael Halligan is listed as a carpenter with 23 years service. The list was purely ship's crew. ;D
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Another one for 28 Feb 1937 from on SS Yearby from Le Mole. St Nicholas. Haiti. Michael Halligan birth 1887 - Irish - 30 1/2 years service. Carpenter. ;D
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HI dettori,
I think you are right. He must have been at sea, over & back to the USA a number of times.
I found a newspaper clipping from 1932, that says that he was 'a seaman until recently on the Clyde Shipping Companys' SS Skerries, trading to Bristol.'
Do you have access to Clyde Shipping Company records?
Many thanks again,
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No, sorry - can't help with Clyde Shipping Co Records. and can't see anything to suggest. Clyde Shipping Co was founded in 1815. It operated a limited passenger service from Glasgow to Ireland, but mainly a cargo service around the coast of the UK. Before the end of the century a service was established to London. Major routes were Liverpool - Waterford (Ireland)
Coastal service between UK and Irish ports (including Glasgow, London, Belfast, Cork, Plymouth, Southampton)
Between 1930 - 1945 - An improved trunk road between Glasgow and the west coast at Greenock took away some of the company`s trade. Their moorings at Greenock were closed. The business survived the Glasgow economic recession by taking advantage of cheap prices to buy more small boats. By the end of WW 2 in 1945 the companys sailings had diminshed because of the scarcity of coal. ;D
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Hi Moinear,
Michael Halligan was my great Grandfather on my Dad's side. He was from Co. Kilkenny and married to Mary Quann from Waterford. He was also a ships carpenter. I think they had seven children two of which may have been born in the US. I will need to ask my Dad for more details.
Eireann.
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Hi Moinear,
Actually my great Grandfather on my Dad's side was Michael Halligan from Co. Kilkenny and he was married to Mary Quann from Waterford. He was also a ships carpenter. I think they had seven children, two of which were born in the US. I will need to ask my Dad for more details on Michael and Mary.
Best wishes,
Eireann.
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Hello,
I am a grandaughter of Michael Halligan and Mary Quann from England. Can I be of any help with any outstanding questions you might have? My mum, Bridget, their daughter, says that her father was a ships carpenter in the merchant navy during both world wars. In between he was a publican in Ballinlaw, co. Kilkenny. Mum's eldest sister Eileen (now in her 101st year!) was definitely born in the US, I think the eldest brother Billy was too. Joseph was, I think, born in Ballinlaw as were all the other Halligans, (there were 10 children in total). My dad was one of 10 children as well so I can't even tell you how many first cousins I have! ::)
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This is a link to the ship's manifest that your uncle was registered on to travel to Newark, USA in 1909. You must register with the Eilis Island site (free) to view information. Once registered, you can copy and paste this web address and it will take you to your uncle's information. Or, just go to the search page and type in his name. You will get a hit on Michael Halligan arriving on 9 Sept 1909 with a final destination of Newark. It shows he arrived with $35 and was going to Uncle Patrick Phelan, he was 5 ft 6 inches tall, dark complexion, dark hair, dark eyes. It appears on two pages - page 0141 and 0142. There is a link to click on that shows a picture of the ship he arrived on as well.
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Hi Trishe,
Delighted to hear from you. I have some information on the Halligans & Quanns, but would love to get more information & photo would be fantastic if you mum had any.
I have sent a private message with my email address so we could exchange photos etc.
I would be delighted to hear from you.
Moinear
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Thanks very much to you guys for the info. I feel a lot more confident now in starting the search for the Irish side of my family.
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Hi!
Michael Halligan and Mary Quann are also my great grandparents.
My grandfather was the eldest of their children (John), who travelled back from the US with his parents and brothers and sisters to attend the funerals of Michaels two brothers who were fishermen in Balinlaw and both drowned. They then stayed in Co. kilkenny and never returned to the US. My grandfather lived in Glenmore.
The only one of his siblings I met was Mary who was a nun and spent most of her life working in Nigeria.
My mother told me at Christmas that Mary Quann was an operatic singer. I was trying to find some information on her when I found this forum! :)
TeresaWaterford
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Hi Teresa,
Lovely to hear from you. My mother, (*), is the sister of your grandad. She is still alive and well and living in Essex, England. Another sister,
(*), also lives in Essex. I remember hearing the story of Michael's two brothers from my Mum. The place where they lived was a village called Ballinlaw, which is near Glenmore. Michael was a publican and a farmer. I don't think Mary, his wife, could have been the well known opera singer because she married young and had ten children. That doesn't leave a lot of time for opera singing except, perhaps, in the bath! I am in the process of compiling a Halligan family tree, so if you have any other questions I might be able to help. Incidentally, do you live in Waterford? I used to stay with my aunt Eileen (your grandad's sister) in Waterford during summer holidays when I was young.
Happy new year.
Pat (also known as Trish)
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Hi Pat!
Thanks for the speedy response!
It's fascinating, I didn't realise until recently how many siblings my grandfather had.
My mother grew up in Glenmore (where my brother now lives) and she now lives in Kilmurry (where I grew up) which is not far from Glenmore. As far as I know we still have relatives in Balinlaw. I think it was Agnes Halligan who took over the Ferry bar there and then her sons. I visited there a few times when I was younger.
My mother would have more information.
I've been living in London about 25 years now but go home a few times a year.
I'd be very interested to see the family tree and perhaps even meeting some relatives!
Happy new year!
Moira (Teresa)
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Hello, my name is Michael Halligan and I live in San Francisco, California. I am the eldest son of the late Joe Halligan and the late Nora Baldwin Halligan. I was born in 1940. I have two brothers and two sisters, all of whom live in the Waterford, Ireland area. I was pleasantly surprised to stumble across your posts last night. I've been doing quite a lot of "stumbling" around websites dealing with genealogy. In particular, I've been trying to trace the Halligans, the Sherlocks of County Wexford, and the Baldwins of County Waterford. Here is the order in which Michael and Mary Quann Halligans' children were born: Anna, John, Eileen (all in Ireland), Joe, Mary (both born in the US), Aggie (I think she was born in Ireland), Briget, Bessie, Billy, and Josephine (all in Ireland). I may be off a little in placing them, but I quite sure that's right.
Eireann, Moinear, Trish10, and Teresa, that's all for now. My email address is (*), if you have any other questions I might be able to help with or any other interesting information about these families.
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Hi Michael
I sent you an email yesterday and attached some photos of Michael and Mary Quann Halligan. If it won't open I'll try sending the pics to you individually. They were sent from (*)
All the best
Moira (Teresa)
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