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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Yorkshire (North Riding) => Topic started by: jayby on Monday 01 February 10 12:37 GMT (UK)
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I have traced on the 1841 census Francis and Christina Watkins who were living at Aislaby Hall Aislby Whitby I have traced so far 6 children the on all census they were either landowners or of independent means . Richard the eldest married my gg aunt Ann they lived for awhile on Jersey he as a retired ship owner, Can anyone tell me anything about Aislaby Hall or the ships owned by Richard.
Thank you Jean
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little bit on Genuki:
AISLABY township contains 720 acres of land, valued for rateable purposes at £930; and 134 inhabitants. J. Mitchelson-Mitchelson, Esq., is lord of the manor, but Mrs. Watson owns the greater part of the land. The village stands on the Pickering and Kirbymoorside road, a little beyond Middleton. Aislaby Hall, the residence of Colonel Bicknell, is a curious and interesting old house, built last century by the Hayes family, one of whom was vicar of Middleton. (info from 1890)
Diddy
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death of son:
15 March 1889
On the 7th inst., very suddenly, at his residence, South View, Basingstoke, Hants.
Edmund, youngest son of the late Francis and Christiana Watkins, of Aislaby
Hall, Whitby, aged 58 years.
marriages:
31 December 1864
On the 29th inst., at St.George's, Bloomsbury, by the Rev. Alex. C.Ponton, the Rev. T.N.Grigg,
vicar of St.George's, near Bristol, to Elina Jane, eldest daughter of the late Francis Watkins, Esq.,
of Aislaby Hall, near Whitby, Yorkshire.
13 January 1868
On Wednesday, the 5th inst., at St.George's Cathedral, by the Right Rev. Dr.Grant, Jean Baptiste
Andre de Heyn, C.E., Attached to the Ministere de l'interieur, Belgium, to Anne, youngest daughter of
the late Francis Watkins, Esq., of Whitby, Yorkshire.
Diddy
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Dear Diddy
Thank you for the information, I had seen the obituary for Edmund but the 2 girls are new to me.
Is there any older information or photos of the Hall and where would I be able to see a copy of Francis will.
Thank you
Jean
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Hi jean, i just found that info by googling!! always worth a look first. can't seem to find any other info on the hall, i think looking at entries it is now tourist fodder /cottages etc.
i didn't look on Francis frith as i saw somewhere it said no pic available.
as a former librarian i would always advocate contacting the local library for this sort of info.
will look up ref for you. will also look on A* to see if will available.
Diddy
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this would seem to be the nearest library:
Name: Whitby library and information centre
Address: Windsor Terrace
Whitby
North Yorkshire
YO21 1ET
United Kingdom
Email: whitby.library@northyorks.gov....
Tel: 0845 300 6687
Fax: 01947 820288
however you can find all info by googling North yorks library services.
Diddy
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Post 1858 wills are available from the Central Probate Office Holborn and the York one takes postal enquiries. You send £5 and an approximate date of death. They send it with in a couple of weeks if it exists.
Andrea
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Hi Jean,
In January, 1857, Aislaby Hall came up for sale, the then current owner, a Mr. Robert Noble put it up for auction, and the advert appeared in the Hull Packet newspaper, available through gale databases: The advert is interesting as it gives some information about the hall, and life in general of the times
The Hull Packet and East Riding Times, Friday, January 2, 1857:
FREEHOLD ESTATES, NEAR WHITBY In the North-Riding of Yorkshire,
An important and valuable PROPERTY, comprising the MANSION-HOUSE, called Aislaby-Hall, with the PLEASURE-GROUNDS, and about 14acres of Old Grass LAND, with the MANOR or LORDSHIP of AISLABY, with the MOOR and extensive STONE QUARRIES thereon, the property of Robert Noble, Esquire, situate at Aislaby, three miles from the populous and fashionable watering –place of Whitby, and one mile from the Sleights Station of the Whitby and Pickering branch of the North-Eastern Railway.
TO BE SOLD BY AUCTION, by Mr. John Hugill, on Thursday,15th day of January, 1857, at the Angel Hotel, Whitby, at two o’clock in the afternoon (unless previously disposed of by Private Sale, of which notice will be given) subject to conditions then and there produced, a Freehold ESTATE, situate at Aislaby, near Whitby in the following lots:-
Lot 1. All that capital MANSION-HOUSE, called “Aislaby Hall” situate in the Township of Aislaby, in the parish of Whitby, built of freestone, and slated containing Dining and Drawing-rooms, Breakfast-room or library, Kitchen and Scullery, on the first floor, five best Bed-rooms on the second floor, and Servants Attics above. Also, a large room adjoining (formerly used as a chapel), over which an additional suite of bed-rooms has been lately erected, together with a Billiard-room. There is also a racket-court at one end of the mansion, and there has been laid out upon the Mansion altogether since the occupation of the present lessee, nearly £800. Also a beautiful GARDEN, VINERY and PLEASURE GROUNDS attached and Outbuildings a short distance from the house, consisting of a neat Flagged yard, Barn and four-stalled stable, Cow-house, with four standings; Chambers and Dove-Cote over Carriage-house to one side, Cart-house and convenient storehouse on the other; with a Pump and plenty of water, a copper for boiling food for the pigs and cattle, with a piggery at each end and fed there from, and a granary extending over the whole.
THE LAND
Including the site of the Mansion and Gardens, containing 14 acres, 3Rods and 14Perches of excellent meadow and pasture land, conveniently divided and well-watered and fenced. The whole of the above is let on lease to R.J. C. Elwes, Esq., for 10 years from 10th May 1853 at a yearly rent of £67 10s. and a further annual rent of £7 10s during the continuance of the lease making a total rent payable of £75 per annum, the lease being determinable by the lesee giving notice at the end of the first five years.
Not sure what is meant by Pleasure grounds, not a fairground I am sure!
Tom
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Thank you Diddy, Andrea and Tom.
Wow. I guess I was born too soon ,I could have visited my aunt and stayed at Aislaby Hall This has all happened with in a week its amazing . my family were farmers at Brafferton Durham and I have still have some to trace . it was only when I got Ann's death certificate that I found out whom she had married the mind boggles as to what I shall find with the rest of the family, I have been going through parish records and found that Francis and Christina had 13 children [at the last count] and his parents were Richard and Hannah Hutchinson again from Slab,
thanks again
Jean
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Jean,
If you were well off you could afford to live in big house and announce your births, deaths and marriages in newspapers.
Here are a few more for you:
The Hull Packet and East Riding Times Friday, November 30, 1849.
November 17, at Darfield Church, John Watkins, Esq., of Clapham Surrey, and late of Aislaby Hall, Yorkshire, to Fanny Ann, eldest daughter of Mr. Ebenezer Elliott, the celebrated corn-law rhymer, of Hargate House, near Barnsley.
This may not be your family but a previous owner of Aislaby Hall.
The Hull Packet Tuesday, June 16, 1807
Lately, Mr. John Johnson Hayes, son of –Hayes, Esq., of Aislaby Hall, near Pickering, to Miss Moon, daughter of the late Mr. Thomas Moon, attorney at Bridlington.
The Hull Packet and Original Weekly Commercial, Literary and General Advertiser Tuesday September 15, 1807;
Marriages
On Saturday last, at Whitby, Mr. Francis Watkins, to Miss Christian Bogue, both of that place.
The Hull Packet and East Riding Times Friday, June 2, 1843
On the 30th ult.,at St Mary’s Whitby, by the Rev. James Andrew, Mr. J.T. English, to Sarah, second daughter of the late Francis Watkins, Esq.,of Aislaby Hall, near Whitby.
The Hull Packet and East Riding Times Friday, March 30, 1849
Deaths
March 22, at the residence of A. W. English Esq., Denmark Hill, Surrey, Sarah, beloved wife of Mr. J.T. English of Stamford, and daughter of the late Francis Watkins Esq., of Aislaby, near Whitby.
The Hull Packet and East Riding Times Friday, October 16, 1846
Marriages
October 7, at Paris, Francis Williams, fifth son of the late Francis Watkins, Esq., Aislaby Hall, Whitby, to Marie-Columbo Cesanrine, second daughter of Charles Claude Garnier, Juge de Paix, Chevalier de Legion d’Honneur, Paris.
Have sent you a PM so you can look up a few more yourself!!
Tom
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Thanks Tom
I will try that, Have you checked out John Watkin , he was a poet playwrite author and one of the leaders in the Chartist movement , He was jailed in 1839 but released by the home secretary in 1840 He married Fanny Ann Elliott the daughter of Ebenezer Elliott [worth looking at] John said his father was like Rothschild and had about 40,000 per year.
BFN
Jean
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I know that this thread is quite old now, but thought it was worth pointing out that you are confusing 2 Aislabys in Yorkshire, one at Pickering and the other just outside Whitby, which is the one your Watkins family come from. Not Pickering.
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Hello
The Watkins are from Whitby this is given on census etc they were all in the 1841 census. The father must have died shortly after as marriages in the early 1840's all state that their father the late Francis Watkins of Aislaby Whitby. I presume that the Hall was sold as later census all give the siblings as land owners and of personal wealth.
Thanks for the interest.
Jean
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Francis Watkins died in the 1850's and you are quite correct in that they lived at Whitby and sold the hall. The info given earlier on here was for Aislaby at Pickering not Whitby. One of my ancestors knew John Watkins when he was fighting for universal suffrage and before he went to prison and his family disowned him for his part in the Chartist movement in South Durham and North Yorkshire. My ancestor made the mistake of thinking the family lived at Pickering and ended up there rather than at Whitby. Fortunately he was taken in by Thomas Hayes, who was the vicar of Middleton. There is quite a lot of info on the net about John Watkins.
Hope that helps
Jen
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We holidayed at Aislaby Hall in May 2001. At that time the house had not undergone the refurbishment later carried out. It was a lovely old home, with (what looked like) many of the original fitments and in the kitchen the servants call system.
I do have some photos of the gardens and a view of the back of the house and am happy to post if you are interested.
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To Faerie Fan
Thank you so much , I would love to add the photo's to my family tree,
regards
Jay
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Hello, I am sorry to be so late in replying, but haven't had time recently to get on here. I am abroad at present, but once home wil upload photo's and send them to you.
regards
FF
Have just found a couple of photo's that I posted to fb. The door in the wall leads from the main garden to the kitchen garden. And the other is looking down the main garden.
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Looks a lovely place.
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Hello All,
I realise this thread is quite old but my family the harrowing have owned the Hall for centres , we aren't quite sure when they brought it, I think ( 1870s) however we have been holiday letting it around about since 2000 the arch way and big door is unfortunately no longer there we used to have a really lovely old kitchen in there two, However it is all ripped out now and more Morden we still have the odd bell in place and the bell system.
I was wondering if anyone know how the hall got into my family it also was burned down in WWII as it was occupied by soliders.
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You could find out a bit more about your HARROWING family by acquiring a copy of the MIs (Gravestone inscriptions) from the Cleveland FHS
Quick look shows :
John Henry HARROWING of Low Stakesby died 1937 & family
There is also a widow - in memory of Capt John Stanley HARROWING of Aislaby Hall who died 1917
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A quick scan of Aislaby Hall in the 1870s at British Newspaper Archive reveals that it was frequently for sale/to let and there seems to have been a succession of tenants.
The first appearance of Harrowing is in the York Herald of 12th September 1879, a report of the first show of the Aislaby Society ("which has been established this year"). "For fruits, first premiums were taken by Mr Harrowing, of Aislaby Hall, the president of the society..."
Sounds as if he had just arrived and was making his mark.
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YKS Evening Press of 23 July 1889 has an item about a meeting at Aislaby Hall by the invite of Mr Robert HARROWING so he had it then.
Whitby Times 16 Feb 1877
AISLABY HALL NEAR WHITBY
To be sold or let, and entered upon at May-day, together with gardens and eleven acres ~~
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I also found an earlier reference:
Whitby Gazette 4th Jan 1878, in a review of the events of 1878:
August 31st Launch of s.s. Helena at S. shields for R. Harrowing, Esq., Aislaby Hall, Whitby
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and this:–
Whitby Gazette June 1877
AISLABY HALL – This very desirable residential demesne has recently been purchased by Robert Harrowing Esq., shipowner, of this town.
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The Times, 22 Feb 1937
"Sir John Henry Harrowing, of Low Stakesby, who died there on Saturday, was born at Aislaby Hall, Yorkshire, 1859 ...".
However, the entry in the baptismal parish register for Whitby reads
"Born 11 Mar, bap 12 Apr 1859, John Henry, son of Robert and Jane Harrowing, abode Havelock Place, West Cliff, father's occpn. Draper."
Can't believe everything you read in the papers ...
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A mistake in the paper of record!
Who’s Who has:
Sir John (H) Harrowing Kt 1921
Born 14 March 1859; o surv. s of Robert Harrowing of Aislaby Hall, near Whitby; m 1897, Jane Ann, d of William Tesseyman; one s three d; died 20 Feb. 1937. Fellow of King’s College, London.
(Which is a different dob.)
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However, the entry in the baptismal parish register for Whitby reads
"Born 11 Mar, bap 12 Apr 1859, John Henry, son of Robert and Jane Harrowing, abode Havelock Place, West Cliff, father's occpn. Draper."
Can't believe everything you read in the papers ...
Nor can you believe everything you read from a certain contributor to Rootschat - it is "14th Mar" not "11th Mar". I read the original but didn't check the transcript. Sp******rs here I come!.