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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Surrey => England => Surrey Lookup Requests => Topic started by: deborahrae on Monday 01 February 10 00:03 GMT (UK)
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can someone help me please i have this information but i am trying to find his parents
Thomas wall turner reigate march 1839
also have kennington surrey england as place of birth this may not be right
hope someone can help also if you can find any other siblings would be greatful for information
deborah
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Hi deborah
According to the Marriage Certificate dated October 1st 1861 for Thomas Wall TURNER born approx 1839 to Harriett JAGO, groom's father was Alfred TURNER Licenced Victualler. Does this sound like it could be your man??
Cheers
Karenlee
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What is the source of the date and place of his birth?
Do any of them corroborate to a GRO birth reg?
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There is a Thomas Wall TURNER born 1839 Reigate on Free BMD. I checked this before I went in search of more information Pauline.. :D
Karenlee
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There is also the following baptism but no birth date I'm afraid...
TURNER Thomas Wall son of Alfred and Hannah Maria TURNER
27th March 1838 St Mary Reigate Surrey
Father's occupation = Tailor
Address = Reigate
I will see if there are any other children to this couple in case they are the ones you need.
Cheers
Karenlee
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Looks like 2 more siblings that I can see...
TURNER Elizabeth daughter of Alfred and Hannah Maria TURNER
20th October 1837 St Mary Reigate Surrey
Father's Occupation = Tailor
Address = Reigate
TURNER Alfred son of Alfred and Hannah Maria TURNER
16th Dec 1840 St Mary Reigate Surrey
Father's Occupation = Tailor
Address = Reigate
Cheers
Karenlee
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1841 Census England Surrey Reigate
HO107/1076/27/7
West Street
TURNER
Alfred 25 Tailor Not born in County
Hannah Maria 25 Born in County
Thomas Wall 2 Born in County
Alfred 1 Born in County
Cheers
Karenlee
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Karen
Thomas' baptism is 1839 not 1838
1851
124 Grove Street, St Pancras, Middlesex
Alfred TURNER, head mar 38, Tailor (J Man), born Essex, Ch Ongar
Hannah M TURNER, wife mar 38, born Surrey, Reigate
Thomas W TURNER, son 12, Scholar, born ditto
Alfred TURNER, son 10, Scholar, born ditto
Anne M TURNER, dau 7, Scholar, born ditto
William H TURNER, son 1, born Middlesex, St Pancras
Thomas W TURNER, father wid 83, Tailor (Asst), born Essex, Ch Ongar
Anne TIDMAN, visitor, unm 49, Governess, born Warwicks, ??
HO107/1493/51/38
By 1861 the family were in St James Westminster and Alfred was a licensed victualler.
Ian C
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Ooops thanks Ian
I didn't bother to post more on this in case I was chasing the wrong family. Have been waiting to hear back if I was on the right track. ;D
Karenlee
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ok the thomas i have is married to a theresa says the parish he was born in was reigate foreign and thomas was also a license vitualler that is all the info i have i am afraid
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ok the thomas i have is married to a theresa says the parish he was born in was reigate foreign and thomas was also a license vitualler that is all the info i have i am afraid
So what documentation did that come from?
Pauline
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There is a Thomas TURNER marrying a Theresa on Free BMD... but does not have Wall as a second christian name. AND... it looks like your Thomas Wall TURNER died in 1877 in Westminster also from Free BMD. He may have married a second time in 1871, but without the certificate it will be impossible to tell if his father was Alfred.
Karenlee
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Yes he did marry twice, second wife was Jane SMITH.
Ian C
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Hi Ian
Just found the marriage certificate of the other 2 parties on the same index listing as Thomas and Jane... so that narrowed that one down a bit. Still not seeing a certificate for them though.. maybe Reg Office marriage..... or poor eyesight on my behalf? ;D
Karenlee
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Was under Thos Wall Turner not Thomas, 14 Jan 1871 St Marylebone
Ian C
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Christenings from IGI, submitted with Batch No;
Alfred TURNER
Birth 06 May 1812
Christened 14 June 1812, Chipping Ongar, Essex, England
Parents, THOMAS and ELIZABETH
Siblings,
MARY ANN Turner, 20 Nov 1814/25 December 1814
Also on batch;
JAMES Wall or Turner
WILLIAM Wall or Turner
25 December 25 June 1818, Chipping Ongar, Essex
Parents;
Thomas WALL/Elizabeth TURNER
Bit confusing :P
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I have been unable with ny resources to find Arthur/Hannah Marias Marriage.
Earlier Turner info seems to be all submitted;
Thomas Wall TURNER
Christened 11 March 1768, Chipping Ongar, Essex
Parents, THOMAS and ESTHER
There are 10 children to them on the Batch 1765 to 1775
Another submitted entry has Thomas Turner and Esther REED marrying 17 July 1764, Chipping Ongar, Essex
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