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Title: Immigration date.
Post by: grandma on Thursday 28 January 10 13:04 GMT (UK)

Hi.

Wonder if any body could help me find when this family came to the US from Scotland. Or point me in the right direction

Ellen Devlin m. John Latimer in Edinburgh 1869. They had Mary Ann b. 1872 and William b. 1874.

On the 1900 census in New York, Mary,age 26 who had married Henry Kemp, age 21, says she immigrated 1884. On the 1830 census she says the date was 1888

I don`t know if she, Mary, always told the truth, her age changes on each census. Most likely because he,Henry, was several years her junior.

Would like to find if it was only Mary, or the whole family who went to the US

Thanks in advance.

Mary

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: grub on Thursday 28 January 10 13:46 GMT (UK)

Hello Mary
Found this one...but name of wife is different.

Arriving NY, 27 Oct 1883, on "State of Pennsylvania"

LATTIMER,
John, 39, b Scotland, stableman
Margt (27? line through it), b Scotland
Mary, 11 1/2, b Scotland
No William with this family.

Worthy of consideration if John had remarried or if Ellen had a middle name. :)

Grub

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: grandma on Thursday 28 January 10 15:36 GMT (UK)

Hi Grub.

Thanks for answering.. No I don`t think it`s my Latimers. The father, John Latimer was definitly born Ireland, though he married Ellen in Scotland.

Mary.

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: grub on Thursday 28 January 10 15:42 GMT (UK)

Sorry, Mary...
I assumed the birth country.
Will look some more.
Grub

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 28 January 10 15:47 GMT (UK)

Would you have a birth date for him Mary  ???

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: grandma on Thursday 28 January 10 16:25 GMT (UK)

Hi Grub.

Sorry about that.

John Latimer, scavenger. age 26, m. Ellen Devlin, age 19, June 30th 1869, Edinburgh.

Mary

Born abt, 1843

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 28 January 10 16:50 GMT (UK)

The only one coming up is the one Grub suggested.

I can see John and Ellen in Edinburgh on the 1871 census also this one for 1881. Is it not possinle Ellem died and John remarried ? Just a thought.  ???
Edinburgh Old Church

John Latimer 38 Born Ireland
Margaret Latimer 25
Mary Ann Latimer 9
 
 

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: grandma on Thursday 28 January 10 17:06 GMT (UK)

Hi.

I havn`t considered this ,will see if I can find a possible death for Ellen, between 1871 and 1881,  on Scotlands People. The age for Mary Ann definitly adds up. Born 1872.

Thanks for all help.

Mary

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: grandma on Thursday 28 January 10 17:22 GMT (UK)

Hi Dettori.

Have just found Ellen Jane`s death, age 25 in 1876, St.Giles, Edinburgh. Thanks ever so much for your help, didn`t have a clue she had died.

Have run out of credits on Scotlands people but will get some more and download the death cert. May be able to find something about William as well. Possibly he has died too.

Thanks for your help too, Grub.

Mary

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 28 January 10 17:25 GMT (UK)

He isn't with them on that passenger list - so it is a possibility.  ;D

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: *Sandra* on Thursday 28 January 10 17:35 GMT (UK)

Keep this one in mind. I have to go back and check but I think I saw Mary and Henry in New York as you originally said.

1910 Manhattan Ward 16, New York, New York.
John Latimer 69 Born Ireland. Immigrated 1882 Widowed.

 ;D
 
 

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: grandma on Thursday 28 January 10 18:04 GMT (UK)

Hi.

ThaT sounds interesting, widowed for the second time.

I have Mary and Henry on both 1920 and 1930 census in New York

Going to go on to Scotlands people now and buy more credits.

Mary

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: grandma on Thursday 28 January 10 19:45 GMT (UK)

Thanks for the help with this thread. Have found the death of Ellen Devlin Latimer, in 1876 and John Latimer`s re-marriage to Margaret Martin in 1878.

So far no sign of William`s death, but will keep hunting.

I know a lot more now than I did a few hours ago.

Thanks again.

Mary

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: grub on Thursday 28 January 10 21:53 GMT (UK)

Hi Mary

For your consideration:

http://www.germangenealogygroup.com/NYCDEATHSEARCH.asp

This web site has "a" Margaret T. Lattimer, deceased on 21 Jun 1896, Manhattan, age 40, which would match what Dettori found on 1881 census.

Grub

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: grandma on Thursday 28 January 10 22:07 GMT (UK)

Hi Grub.

Thanks for this information. You`ve both been so helpful.

Mary

Title: Re: Immigration date.
Post by: dweber1429 on Saturday 10 August 24 22:04 BST (UK)

Hello Mary,

May I trouble you for the details of your research on John Latimer & Helen Devlin? 
I have him remarrying in Annie Jane Davies in Liverpool in 1903? Your research thread might suggest I have this wrong.  I'd be grateful for better info.

I tried to follow the link from Grub but it is broken.
 
I have: 
John born Conheath Cottage, Caerlaverock, Dumfriesshire,  Ireland 1843
Helen born Edinburgh, Scotland (1850-1876)
they marry in St Patrick's Chael, Cowgate, Edinburgh, Scotland 1869
2 children,  Mary Ann (1872-1959) and William (1974-). 
Helen passes in 1876
John remarries to Annie Jane Davies (1875-1942) in 1903 in Liverpool, England. I'm guessing I have this wrong?

Daughter Mary Ann arrived in the US between 1879-1885 suggesting she is betweeb 5-13.
Son William - I only have his birth and have lost him

Mary Ann marries John Kemp (1898) in Episcopal Diocese of NYC. 
5 kids, John Henry (1901-1988), Marjorie (1903-1987), twins Marion (1905-1990)/Helen (1905-1906) and Dorothy (1907-1994)

Marion is my grandmother  ;D