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Please could someone look up a death of a William Sutton Died Between 1945-55, in Boston MA
Thanks Maria
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Hi Maria:
I'm not sure that I can find any records, but would you know his approximate date of birth and place of birth, please?
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Could anyone please help I would love to find out about Mggrandfather
William Sutton born in Liverpool Uk anywhere between 1869-1889, whent to live in Boston MA about 1911. He died between 1945-50 in Boston. Probate researchers where looking for relatives of this WH sutton around 1950 so I am assuming he had no family. Would love to find out about
Immigration
Marriage
Death.
?will
Are there 100's of probate researchers In Boston? The Lawyers must have known he had family in Liverpool to come looking. At the time my GF had no proof he was an heir as he wasn't sure of his real name.
Awaiting in anticipation for a miracle
Maria
p.s would love to correspond with someone in MA to help me on my Quest.
Topics on same person merged ~ moderator
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Dear Lisa,
I believe he was born in Liverpool Uk, he fathered my GF in 1909 so I am assuming he was born between 1870 -1889 I suppose they could father some one right up to aged 70 hahaha, he went to live in MA about 1911 and died between 1945-55.
Sorry I haven't much to go on
Best wishes Maria
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Hi Maria:
I don't see a passenger list for a Wiliam Sutton, born Liverpool, arriving between 1909 and 1914.
I am assuming you were told he left England when your father was about 2 years old? Do you know if he eventually settled in Massachusetts, or if he left England with the intention of living in Massachusetts? Final question: is there any chance you might know his occupation, please?
Any clues might help find him on census returns or passenger lists (which would help determine his date of birth).
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Hi Lisa,
Hope you are well, firstly thanks for this, I found on the Library Ancestry, that a William sutton went to Boston 16th April 1911 I'm assuming its him,
Some Background
My Grandad B 1909 (Known as Joe Russell)
My Dad 1935 (Joe Russell)
Right Lisa this is where I confuse you!!!!
When my dad was about 15 therefore 1950, they went to our Local Newspaper as a Legal Notice appeared looking for Relatives of a William Sutton, who had been in Liverpool between 1909-1911 he had been a hay dealer and carter??Died Boston MA, as this was an estate matter. Therefore i assume he died between 1945-50
It asked for anyone to go to a local Lawyer to resolve matter. The Lawyer need proof, as my GD didn't have proof that was the end of matter. My GD was orphaned aged 9 and went to an orphanage but his half brothers looked after him who were called Russell so he went through life with this name. His Aunt had told him his father was sutton and had gone to US. As he didn't know his real name he never had a birth certificate. Over the years I have researched for it and have now miraculously found it.
His Name is William Joseph Sutton, father William Sutton fathers occupation, a hay dealer and carter, therefore I believe this man in US is his father there are too many similarities. I am assuming the man in US had no next of kin to come looking for people in LIverpool. I would also love to know if he left a will.
As i'm in UK i'm finding it hard to locate any info.
Sorry for all that,
best wishes
Maria
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Could it be 6th April 1911 on the SS Cymric ?
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Thats the one I thought, its the only one around the presumed dates.
Do the actual records give anymore details than the name of individual.
regards Maria
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Hi Maria:
Thank you for the added information.
Regarding the passenger list:
Age 28, male, single, occupation: Builder is lined out and above is ? (cannot read it); last permanent address was England, Meaboro or Me?boro, Mother Mrs. Sutton, 138 Clayfield Ave, ?, Me?boro. William going to Duluth, Minnesota. (The person above William, George Wilkinson, was also going to Duluth.) William was born in Sheffield, England. 5'6", light complexion, blue eyes. (Actually, blue is written in the hair column, but there is nothing in the eye column, so they probably meant blue eyes.)
Also, George Wilkinson is going to his sister(?), ? Roberts or Robertson, address looks like Virginia No. Minn. William Sutton's destination was the same, but she is listed as friend.
Hopefully, someone else can read the entry better than I can!
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Lisa, I didn't get much more out of the passenger list than you did. The sister/friend was transcribed as F.G. Roberton, which seems possible to me.
Here's a possible match -
WWI Draft Registration Card
William Sutton
120 4th St., So. Virginia, St. Louis Co., Minn.
Age 35, born 4 Nov. 1882
White, naturalized US citizen
Present occupation - 12D. (maybe that's some kind of union?)
Employer - McKinney Steel Co., Virginia, Minn.
Nearest relative - mother Eliza Ann Sutton, Sheffield, England
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Dear Lisa,
hope you are well
I saw this entry but have mixed feelings about it, Where is Duluth?? and how far is MI to MA, As He died in Massachusetts I assumed thats where he went, I also assumed he was born Liverpool but I suppose he could have been Sheffield. Was your info off Ancestry, i'll go library today and do a bit more digging. There is another passenger details I wonder if anyone could look into this for me
From findmypast.com
Name WM Sutton
Dep 8th August
Dep port Liverpool
Dest Boston
It says he is single, Male ,mechanic
Ship Franconia
I might try and look into this.
I suppose I really need this death, at present really struggling to find Newspaper archive in Liverpool.
You guys keep me going.
Maria
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Dear Shelly
thanks, what are Laws about joining up, If he went 1911, could he sign on for US military??, does the above suggest he is a US citizen, How long does it take to be naturalised,
Are any of these records available to you or Lisa.
When he became a US citizen
Census record 1910.20.30
Business directories between 1910-1950
Death records.
Wills and probate records
Have searched Pilot.family search, don't have Ancestry.
Best wishes Maria
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Minnesota is half-way across the country from Massachusetts, but it's not beyond the realm of possibility that he moved later.
All men of a certain age were required to register for the WWI draft - it doesn't mean that this William Sutton ever served in the military. It does say he was a naturalized citizen - I don't know the exact laws from then, but it seems possible that he could have been naturalized within 6/7 years. Based on where he was living and the fact that his mother was living where he was born per the passenger list, I would say it is reasonably likely that he is the man from 1911 passenger list.
I really did not see any likely matches for him on census records.
On the UK end, I would recommend looking to see if you can find anything about this William's mother in BMD or census records or a birth record for him with the birth date from the draft registration card.