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Title: COMPLETED Date Ideas?
Post by: vazzycat on Monday 25 January 10 14:32 GMT (UK)
I would welcome any suggestions as to a possible date for this (as yet) unidentified ancestor. The photo was taken by Harris, Son & Co at 88 High Street, Merthyr. Investigation suggests that they were trading from that address up until 1895/1898 as in an 1899 directory they have moved to 13 High Street. I'm uncertain when they began trading out of 88 High Street but they are listed there in a directory for 1875.

Her attire does seem quite stylised. And her hairstyle seems quite modest.

And any guesses at her age? I'm thinking perhaps abt 20 yrs old?

Any suggestions gratefully received!
Title: Re: Date Ideas?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 25 January 10 14:40 GMT (UK)
Hi  :)

Hairstyle and top of dress looks early 1880s - say 1882-ish. However, it would have been nice to have seen the bottom of the dress to confirm.

I'd say and age of late teens-early twenties. The severity of the hairstyle makes her look older than she is, I think.


Regards


Gadget
Title: Re: Date Ideas?
Post by: jim1 on Monday 25 January 10 15:20 GMT (UK)
Agree with Gadget,the neckline suggests an early 80's date.Age 18-early 20's.
jim
Title: Re: Date Ideas?
Post by: chinakay on Monday 25 January 10 16:14 GMT (UK)
Yes, agree.

Any printing on the back of the card? The design on the back can help with a date too.

This may be a red herring, but the arch shape at the top of the card is something I've seen mentioned as being a design of a memorial photo. I have one myself which is an obvious reprint--the format of the photo doesn't match the clothing worn by the sitter by decades. I've included it below.

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Date Ideas?
Post by: vazzycat on Monday 25 January 10 16:56 GMT (UK)
Gadget, Jim & China  - Thanks so much for the input - the dating will really narrow things down - and if it does prove to be a memorial photo that will of course narrow things down even further.

China - Here is the back of the photo which may help.

Many Thanks once again!
Title: Re: Date Ideas?
Post by: Gadget on Monday 25 January 10 17:00 GMT (UK)
That hand writing has given me such a shock - it's very like my Mother's was   :'(

I suppose the writer might be the same generation as her (1909-1999) and we were from North Wales  :-\


Gadget
Title: Re: Date Ideas?
Post by: vazzycat on Monday 25 January 10 17:09 GMT (UK)
Hey Gadget - The dates couldn't be closer - the writers dates are 1909 - 1996! Funny though - I'm sure that my handwriting is nothing like I was taught in the 60's 70's.
Title: Re: Date Ideas?
Post by: chinakay on Monday 25 January 10 17:28 GMT (UK)
Apparently Cleopas Harris set up his first photo shop in 1866. He had 3 sons, who had artistic talent and their first job was hand-colouring photos. They were so good that Cleopas sent two of them to Paris where they trained at the same studio as Claude Monet.

The design suggests late 1880s. It could be a memorial photo.

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Date Ideas?
Post by: jim1 on Monday 25 January 10 17:31 GMT (UK)
Has to be a reprint,.China could be right although I would say this is an 1890's back.

jim
Title: Re: Date Ideas?
Post by: chinakay on Monday 25 January 10 18:02 GMT (UK)
The scrolly thing at upper left is more or less identified as an 1888 design, but the card certainly has elements of early 1890s particularly the bamboo plants which were a favourite then :)

Cheers,
China
Title: Re: Date Ideas?
Post by: vazzycat on Monday 25 January 10 19:52 GMT (UK)
All

Thanks so much

So - I'm consolidating - woman in her late teens/early 20's and photo prpobably taken early 1880's. However, due to shape and backing this is most likely a reprint which was done in the late 1880's - mid 1890's and quite possibly the sitter had passed away at the time of the reprint.

Once again, thank you all so much for sharing your knowledge.
Vaz

 
Title: COMPLETE Re: Date Ideas?
Post by: vazzycat on Monday 25 January 10 19:54 GMT (UK)
Completed many thanks