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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Australia Lookups completed => Topic started by: ashe on Wednesday 20 January 10 22:30 GMT (UK)
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Hi All
Require help in breaking down my brick wall....
My request is to search for the unusual surname CORINGO, with any Christian name through out Australian BDM records.
The surname CORINGO cannot be found on SA records. I have tried Qld, NSW, Vic online indexes to no avail, but maybe I have missed the name??? Also have tried the surname with a K.
Know this is a tall order, but many eyes are better than one.
Would appreciate anyone's help.
Ashe
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You might like to try Western Australia and see if you have any success, Ashe.....
http://www.bdm.dotag.wa.gov.au/_apps/pioneersindex/default.aspx
Dee :)
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There are no Coringo names on the early Electoral Rolls in NSW, Queensland, Victoria or Western Australia.
There are just three Coringleys and two Corringtons.
Dee :)
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Coringo here -
http://redpathpittfamily.net/getperson.php?personID=I20880&tree=RED1
Do a search for coringo and australia
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Dee
Thanks for the info, checked WA with no luck. Clutching at straws but will check out the three Coringleys.....looking for the christian name of Mary Jane who resided in SA???
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Unfortunately, no early South Oz electoral rolls on line. :-\
Around about what time frame are you looking at?
Dee :)
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Have her born c1860's....but not sure if she was born here.
Ashe
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OK....what do you think of this one? ???
Robert RAMMAGE aged 23 and single married Mary Jane CORNIGO aged 23 and single on 30th March 1886 at St Bartholomew Church, Norwood.
Fathers = Adam RAMMAGE & Simon CORNIGO
Ref = Nor V 146/1161
Dee :D
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And this birth?
Mary Jane CORNEGIO born 15th December 1862 at Worlds End to Simon CORNEGIO & Margaret MCLEAN
Ref = Bur V 28/22
Dee :)
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Mary Jane had these siblings.....and look at all the spellings! :o ::)
Frances Rose Harriette CORNIGO born 2nd July 1859 at Murray Scrub to Simon CORNIGO & Margaret MCGLIN
Ref = Bur 17/245
Isabella CORNEGO born 9th March 1861 at Logans Gap to Simon CORNEGO & Margaret MACGLYN
Ref = Bur V 22/82
CORNEGO Louisa Maria born 25th July 1864 at Worlds End to Simon CORNEGO & Margaret MCGLINN
Ref = Bur 32/164
Henry White CORNEGO born 2nd February 1866 at Worlds End to Simon CORNEGO & Margaret MCGLYNN
Ref = Bur 40 /400
Clara CORNIGO born 25th July 1868 at Kooringa to Simon CORNIGO & Margaret MCGLINN
Ref = Bur 66/36
William Charles CORNEGO born 9th August 1870 at Princess Royal to Simon CORNEGO & Caroline Margaret MCGLYNN
Ref = Bur 87/219
The Princess Royal birthplace was a large station by that name. I'vevisited there. ;)
Dee :)
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Here's the BISA info....
Simon CORNIGO
Born 1827 Chile
Died 8th February 1897
Buried at Bruce SA
Arrived about 1858
0ccupation Spanish Muleteer, Shepherd, Overseer, Miner
Resided at Burra, Worlds End, Bruce
Married Mgt who was born 3rd September 1831 IRL
Children =
Fanny HALL (1859-)
Isabel BAYNES (1861-1939)
Mary Jane RAMAGE (1862-
Maria
Wm Chas (1870-)
Clara MASTERMAN
Dee :)
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Marriages of the other girls....and yet another spelling of the Cornigo/Coringo name........
Frances Rose Harriet CORINGE married William James HALL on 29th March 1880 at St Mary Church, Kooringa
Fathers = Simon CORINGE & William Berryman HALL
Ref = Bur 122/1263
Isabel CORNIGO aged 20 and single married William BAYNES aged 27 and single on 6th April 1881 at St Mary Church Manse, Burra.
Fathers = Simon CORNIGO & Isaac BAYNES
Ref = Bur 127/19
Clara CORINGO aged 17 and single married William Henry MASTERMAN aged 32 and single at Christ Church , Wilmington.
Fathers = Simon CORINGO & Henry Willman MASTERMAN
Ref = Fro 144/917
Louisa Maria CORNIGO aged 26 and single married William THOMAS aged 31 and single on 28th March 1891 at St Barnabas Church Bordertown
Fathers = Simon CORNIGO & John THOMAS
Ref = Wel 166/1036
Dee :)
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The brother of Mary Jane turns up in Victoria.....here's his death....
Wm Chas CORNIGO aged 71 died at S MELB in 1942
Parents given as Simon CORNIGO & Kleen MCGLYEN
Ref = 5426
Dee :)
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Inquest 1897
17 February, 1897
At Abbott's farm, near Bruce, the 9th instant, on the body of Simon Cornigo, who died the previous day from the effects of self-inflicted wounds in the abdomen. Verdict - 'That the deceased, Simon Cornigo, came to his death by his own hand while in a state of temporary insanity.'
Jamjar
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Hi everyone
My lengthy reply did not post for some reason. Have to go and work with the bees NOW. Will get back to you all this afternoon.
Ashe
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William Charles CORNIGO and Jane Forbes CORNIGO are on the Victorian Electoral Rolls from 1914 onwards.
1914
130 Nott St, Port Melbourne
1919
243 Graham St, Port Melbourne
1924, 1931, 1936, & 1937
226 Graham St, Port Melbourne
William Charles’ occupation was given as labourer.
1943 sees Jane Forbes Cornigo at the same address and with her is a Joyce CORNIGO, machinist.
Jane Forbes CORNIGO aged 80 died at PT MELB in 1949
Father = John REID & Mother = Mary Ellen FORBES
Ref = 5765
Dee :)
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Another death.....
Frances HALL aged 81 died at CFIELD in 1940
Father = Simon CORNIGO & Mother = Margt LATIMER
Ref = 8178
Dee :)
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And another spelling has popped up.....Carnigo.....
From http://www.familyhistorysa.info/births-marriages-deaths/cemeteries/burials.html
Simon CARNIGO / CORNIGO aged 70 died on 8th February 1897.
He was buried and/or memorialised at the Wilmington General Cemetery.
Deaths index……
Simon CORNIGO aged 70 of Bruce died on 8th February 1897 at Bruce.
Ref = Fro S 241/334
Margaret CORNIGO aged 75 of Kent Town, and widow of Symon CORNIGO, died on 13th April 1907 at Kent Town .
Ref = Nor 324413
Dee :)
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Death Notice in the digitised newspapers (Adelaide Advertiser) for Margaret CORNIGO, died at her daughter's residence, 13 April, 1907. Lots of mentions of a footballer in Vic in 1890s with same surname.
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
Judith
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SA Gov Gazettes index at http://www.saghs.org.au/cgi-bin/sadeaths/db_search.cgi
has the following……
Lucilla May CORNIGO D 1973
Simon CORNIGO ERA 1884
Dee :)
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Lucilla May Cornigo aged 89 from WEST HINDMARSH was buried at Centennial Park Cemetery in the General Section AD, path 6, site 421
No date given.
Dee :)
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Some more Victorian deaths……
Clarice Violet May PAYNE aged 44 died at WOODEND in 1949.
Father = Hy Wm MASTERMAN & Mother = Clara CORNIGO
Ref = 19634
Minnie Etheline JONES aged 78 died at CAUL in 1961.
Father = William J HALL & Mother = Frances Rose CORNIGO
Ref = 5951
Myrtle Etheline CLIFF aged 78 died at NYAH in 1966
Father = Will MASTERMAN & Mother = Clara CORNIGO
Ref = 19132
Dee :)
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There are over twenty births to the various Cornigo/Cornego girls in South Australia.
Here's Mary Jane's children.....
Percival Lathmer NEWMAN born 30th October 1880 at Kooringa.
Father = Charles NEWMAN & Mother = Mary Jane CORNIGO
Ref = Bur 250/385
Florence Jane RAMAGE born 26th November 1887 at North Adelaide.
Father = Robert RAMAGE & Mother = Mary Jane CORNIGO
Ref = Ade S 408/138
Adam RAMAGE born 12th September 1886 at North Adelaide.
Father = Robert RAMAGE & Mother = Jane CORNIGO
Ref = Ade 381/480
Harold Robert RAMAGE born 29th November 1892 at Adelaide.
Father Ref = Ade 512/113
Myrtle RAMAGE born 8th July 1889 at Adelaide
Father = Robert RAMAGE & Mother = Jane CORNIGO
Ref = Ade 441/425
Dee :)
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Clara Cornigo's children.....
Lucilla May CORNIGO born 25th March 1883 at Kooringa
Father = Frederick WILLIAMS & Mother = Clara CORNIGO
Ref = Bur X 302/123
Cross Reference = See also WILLIAMS Lucilla May Cornigo
Then to Clara CORNIGO & William Henry MASTERMAN……
Myrtle Etheleen MASTERMAN born 8th September 1887 at Gregory.
Ref = Fro 404/62
Marion Francis MASTERMAN born 7th January 1893 at Wilmington.
Ref = Fro 517/234
Fred Baynes MASTERMAN born 6th April 1894 at Wilmington.
Ref = Fro 541/337
Frances Emily MASTERMAN born 14th October 1899 at Nr Wilmington.
Ref = Fro 649/49
Pearl MASTERMAN born 17th November 1900 at Nr Wilmington.
Ref = Fro 668/311
To William Henry MASTERMAN & Clara Cornego......
George Fredrick MASTERMAN born 16th August 1886 at Wilmington.
Ref = Fro V 380/82
Florence Margaret Caroline MASTERMAN born 24th December 1888 at Wilmington.
Ref = Fro 432/221
Ivy MASTERMAN born 4th July 1895 at Wilmington
Ref = Fro 565/496
Dee :)
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Isabel Cornigo's children.....
To Isabel CORNEGO & William BAYNES
Fred BAYNES born 13th April 1883 at Booborowie nr Burra.
Ref = Bur 302/118
Florence Isabella BAYNES born 7th November 1902 at Baldina.
Ref = Bur 704/44
Dee :)
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Hi Dee, Wivenhoe, Jamjar and Judith
Wow the brick wall has come tumbling down very quickly ;D ;D ;D
Quickly perusing the info have no doubt that this is the correct family with all the different spellings of the name, and will need time to digest everything.
Wivenhoe, that familytree site bears out with Dee's research - documented is Clara's marriage to Masterman, and father's name Simon Coringo.
Jamjar, the inquest info is most interesting. Will follow up.
Judith, the death notice for Margaret Cornigo - feel it is important and connected with Dee's research and family history, as below.
Dee, so much info :o - most grateful. At this stage the info that stands out is
Frances HALL aged 81 died at CFIELD in 1940
Father = Simon CORNIGO & Mother = Margt LATIMER
Ref = 8178
and
Percival Lathmer NEWMAN born 30th October 1880 at Kooringa.
Father = Charles NEWMAN & Mother = Mary Jane CORNIGO
Ref = Bur 250/385
Percival Howard Latimer was my grandfather. On his marriage cert Broken Hill 1907, it is documented that he was born in Melrose SA, father=John Henry Latimer, mother=Mary Jane Coringo. Researched the JH Latimer side back to England and with dates etc. came to the conclusion that Percival was the result of a liaision ???
The Newman name is puzzling but could be correct as JH Latimer did not arrive in Australia till June 1880. On Percival's death cert (Vic 1946) the informant is not a family member and any details are not known.
Need time-out as the mind is in overdrive and get the info prioritised.....any clarification of what I've said will be most grateful.
Hugs to you all
Ashe
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Ashe, I'm sure this is the info you needed to break down your brick wall and that the name has just been spelt of transcribed in different ways. And yes, death certificates are not necessarily totally accurate, but with what you have from that and what we have here, I'm really happy for you.
Here's a bit more......Frances Rose's children......
To Frances Rose Harriet CORNIGO & William James HALL……
Minnie Ethelene HALL born 9th February 1883 at Kent Town
Ref = Nor 298/68
Marion Frances HALL born 9th December 1880 at Norwood.
Ref = Ade 251/227
George Arthur HALL born 25th April 1884 at Kent Town
Ref = Nor 325/118
Albert Edward HALL born 10th November 1885 at Norwood.
Ref = Nor 362/58
Another lot to come after I've had my tea...... ;)
Dee :)
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Louisa's children....
To Louisa CORNIGO & William THOMAS……
Ronald George Albert THOMAS born 27th November 1896 at Bordertown.
Ref = Wel 595/18
Mona Florence Clara THOMAS born 14th January 1899 at Bordertown.
Ref = Wel 634/238
Dee :)
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Hi Dee
I certainly agree that the info was needed and am jumping over the moon.
From Percival's age stated on his marriage cert it put him born abt 1881-82 not 1880 (it happens), but one wonders why he would state that John Henry Latimer was his father - will probably never know.
Also his name on your finding his birth details Percival Lathmer (mispelt for Latimer?)Newman poses more questions; where is Howard his second name, and why is Latimer there? Am not sure that SA birth records will give me any further details of Percival than you have already given me?
Is it possible for some more lookups please, as follows:
A possible marriage of Mary Jane to Newman before her marriage to Ramage.
The death of Margaret McLean/McGlynn.
A second marriage of Simon to Margaret Latimer
And does it mean that the family name is not Latimer but Newman instead ::)
Oh for DNA testing ;D
Many thanks
Ashe
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Here's Margaret Cornigo's death.....
Margaret CORNIGO aged 75 of Kent Town, and widow of Symon CORNIGO, died 13th April 1907 at Kent Town.
Ref = Nor 324/ 413
The notice that Judith found in the newspaper said that she died at her daughter's home in Kent Town. That would have been Frances Rose Harriet Hall, so I think there was just the one Margaret, not two.
Dee ....off looking for more..... ;)
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Before I forget....South Australian Birth certificate probably won't give you much more than you have...... :-\
Dee :)
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No births in South Australia to a Margaret LATIMER.
I can see 4 births to a John Henry LATIMER but with an Ida Ord TURNER in the 1880s…all up north at Gladstone or Booyoolie.
Between 1846 and 1899 there are 27 births to a Charles NEWMAN (with no second given name) out of 309 NEWMAN births. There are 7 mothers of these children.
There was a Benjamin NEWMAN having children at Kooringa at that time…..wonder if he and Charles were brothers…..
Now here’s a thought…..could Percival Latimer have been fostered or adopted by John Henry LATIMER if he was an illegitimate child born to a very young Mary Jane? Maybe her Ramage husband wouldn't have him?
Dee
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Not sure if there was only one Margaret, as the list posted of Mary Jane, Frances etc. the mother was Margaret McLean/McGlynn. On Simon's BISA - Married Mgt who was born 3rd September 1831 IRL. Sounds correct, but with Frances Hall death notice the mother was Margaret Latimer - where did the Latimer come from?
Researched JH Latimer family with Ida Turner at Gladstone. It took me back to Newcastle-on-Tyne England where both originated from. They were married there Jun quarter 1879. Good thought Dee re Percival being fostered/adopted.....had obtained JHL's will in the hope of finding some mention of Percival but there was nothing.
Ashe
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Ashe,
To answer your PM request for more information, and so that other Rootschatters can continue to follow the thread, here’s what I found……
Simon CORNEJO aged 31 married Margaret MACGLINN aged 26 on 25th September 1858 at St Mary Church, Kooringa.
Fathers = Jose CORNEJO & John MACGLINN
Ref = Bur 35/5
So yet another spelling of the name.
Here’s the death of their baby son Henry that I missed…..
Henry White CORNEGO aged 3 days of Worlds End died on 5th February 1866 at Worlds End.
Father = Simon CORNEGO
Ref = Bur 22/351
The death of Mary Jane CORNIGO who married Robert RAMAGE……
She died aged 84 as a resident of Parkside on 7th May 1946 at Parkside.
Husband Robert listed as deceased.
Ref = Ade 700/2149
Robert died 15 years earlier.
He was aged 68 and resident of Dulwich when he died on 24th July 1931 at Dulwich.
Ref = Nor 530/285
Hope that helps. :)
Dee
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Hi Dee
Sure does.....it has filled in the gaps and given me another generation to research....later. ;D
Now to find if Percival stayed with his mum Mary-Jane or was reared elsewhere......and where does the Latimer name fit in. A trip to SA definately on the agenda.
You said that you had been to the Princess Royal station, was that a sheep station and in what area?
Many thanks
Ashe
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Ashe, the Pricess Royal Station was sheep I think, and is out from Burra.
Have a look at
http://www.burracreekwines.com.au/about.php?id=286
As for the Latimer mentioned on the HALLdeath certificate, remember that information on death certificates is not necessarily accurate. In fact, it can often be totally wrong, as the informant may not really know the correct information.
An example.....death certificate of my gg-grandfather BUTTON had him being born in Birminham, England. In fact, he was born in Wisbech, Cambridgeshire.
Dee :)
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Ashe, I've just found something rather interesting, though it doesn't directly connect to your Cornego family.
The National Archives of Australia website has no mention of Cornego/Cornigo.
BUT....there are 21 entries for people with the name Cornejo, and most of them are from South American countries.
I thought this was worth mentioning, as BISA has Simon coming from Chile, and his marriage record giving his name as CORNEJO.
Dee :)
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Dee
Definately worth mentioning and chasing up. You've just given me a reason to take tomorrow afternoon off from doing any work and follow this lead through. ;D
Ashe
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Hi Dee, Wivenhoe, Jamjar and Judith
Before I complete this thread here is a quick update as follows:
Have been in contact with descendents from two of Mary Jane’s sisters, Frances and Louisa, and awaiting a reply from descendents of Isabel.
Dee...the lead from the NAA; all those Cornejo’s arriving here were in the 20th century. Have requested a search for the 19th century.
Contacted the NLA to see what information they had on the SA Spanish Muleteers in the 1850’s. They sent me a couple of newspapers articles, plus the titles of a couple of publications re the copper mines in the Burra area. (have learnt so much of SA history)
Have found one of the ships that transported 200 mules and 14 Chillian natives, the “Malacca” in 1855, plus a photo of the Portuguese Galleon. There was another ship in 1856 with 22 Chillian natives.
Re Margaret McGlinn, a family story is that she landed in SA after the ship was wrecked off the SA coast.
I will complete this thread now and if I decide to research the Ramage’s and Newman’s will make new threads.
Many thanks for all your contributions, especially you Dee..... in helping find my family.
Ashe
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Many thanks for the update, Ashe. It's lovely to hear what has happened as a result of help given on RC , and also to know more of the story. The story of the Chilean muleteers is a new one to me, and as you say....we learn more all the time through family history.
Great that you've now made family contacts!
Good luck with your continuing research.
Dee :)
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The grave site of Simon Carnigo. https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/201619557
Because you needed another spelling for his name. :)
From the family relationships on the headstone there is no doubt that it is him. The headstone is clearly not contemporaneous with his death. It looks as if someone was compiling family information in the second half of the 20th century... or later if it's you yourself.