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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: tisha on Wednesday 20 January 10 16:05 GMT (UK)
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Hello to you all, I have 2 requests both 'Lunnon' my First a James Hugh Lunnon known as 'sonny'B.croydon.surrey England 1910 emigrated to Australia 1930's living in part in Victoria, we know he passed in a motor cycle accident in late 1930's trying to find out if he married out there, this was reported in a newspaper in Learmonth in Victoria. 2nd request a Charles or charlie lunnon emigrated to Australia not sure, but was living in the outback for some time, he went out in 1920's, he married 'someone' and twins were born to them do not know who she was, he was involved in a shooting in the outback(was said he was in police force) when rustlers attacked them and it was written as an unsolved crime was also known as 'sonny', he came back to England in the middle 1960's but know one has hear anything of him since, can anyone help, I realise this is long shot.Sincerely Tisha
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Hello there and a big welcome to roots chat
here is the death
LUNNON Jas Hugh died aged 25 in 1936 at Learmonth Victoria
father and mother unknown reg no 15696
Jenn
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There's no marriage listed for James Hugh LUNNON in Victoria, Tisha,
and his death was registered in 1936. Age given as 25, parents unknown, at Learmouth.
Ref = 15696
Dee :)
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The following marriage may be the one you are after?
Charles Richard LUNNON married Alice Mary PHELAN in 1922 reg no 105550
you would have to obtain the marriage certificate to verify the parents
JEnn
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Jenn and Tisha, there's the death of a Charles Richard aged 77 in Ballarat in 1974. Parents = Charles LUNNON & Alice McELONE.
Ref = 12313
Perhaps Tisha can let us know if these are indeed the parents. :)
If it is, then purchasing the image of the death certificate would reveal any names of offspsring. :)
The image can be purchased and downloaded at
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/home
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA2574F700805DE7/HomePage?ReadForm&1=Home~&2=~&3=~
I see they have moved! ::)
Dee :)
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Yes Dee, good point we do need the parents names,
I did note a number of deaths in Victoria to this couple Charles and Alice McElone
Jenn
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There is a James Hugh LUNNON on the electoral roll in Victoia but not in Learmonth - Camperdown is about 120k distant.. (You can see them on Googlemap)
1930 James Hugh LUNNON, Derinallum, station hand (District Corangamite; subdistrict Camperdown)
1936 James Hugh LUNNON, Mawolok, Beaufort, station hand (District Corangamite; subdistrict Beaufort)
There are no others of same name listed with him.
There appear to be two Charles LUNNON entries on the electoral rolls, both in Victoria
Charles Richard LUNNON in Ballarat up to 1954 (extent of my access) and Charles William LUNNON in Gippsland - only till the 1930s. Charles Richard in Ballarat is listed as butcher, and in 1924 is at the same address as a number of other LUNNONs so it looks somewhat unlikely that he would be an immgrant on his own.
There is an account of the death of James (called Jack in the paper) on the National Library's digitised newspapers, The Argus, 30 April 1936.
http://newspapers.nla.gov.au/ndp/del/home
Cheers, Judith
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Hi all and welcome to RC tisha.
There was an inquest into James' death
LUNNON James H. 1936. Reference: 780. Cause of Death : Motor Cycle Accident. Date of Inquest : 18.6.1936
Regards
Alison
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At the Ballarat Cemetery there are interments for the two CHARLES LUNNON's
CHARLES RICHARD LUNNON d .1974 aged 77 Buthcher
with
ALICE MAY LUNNON d. 1971. aged 75. Wife
CHARLES LUNNON d. 1928 aged 78. Bacon Curer
with
ALICE d. 1925 aged 53 Wife.
An infant, ARTHUR HENRY is also there.
So it would appear that there are 2 generations here and this can probably rule out the BALLARAT group.
Sue
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Hi Alison, yes thats him, thankyou for verifying that.Regards Tisha.
Hi all and welcome to RC tisha.
There was an inquest into James' death
LUNNON James H. 1936. Reference: 780. Cause of Death : Motor Cycle Accident. Date of Inquest : 18.6.1936
Regards
Alison
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Hi Jenn, thank you very much for info.Regards Tisha
Hello there and a big welcome to roots chat
here is the death
LUNNON Jas Hugh died aged 25 in 1936 at Learmonth Victoria
father and mother unknown reg no 15696
Jenn
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Hi Dee,. thankyou for checking, we did not think he had married, but its worth checking.Regards Tisha
There's no marriage listed for James Hugh LUNNON in Victoria, Tisha, and his death was registered in 1936. Age given as 25, parents unknown, at Learmouth.
Ref = 15696
Dee :)
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Hi Alison, thankyou for the info.Regards Tisha
Hi all and welcome to RC tisha.
There was an inquest into James' death
LUNNON James H. 1936. Reference: 780. Cause of Death : Motor Cycle Accident. Date of Inquest : 18.6.1936
Regards
Alison
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Hi Dee & Jenn, our charlie as he was known was born 1902 kent/surrey england, his parents were a William Julius Lunnon and mother Amy(Harriet) Burton, does this help, also I have found that the word 'Dubbo' is connected with him, also they were twin girls born to his wife.Regards Tisha
Jenn and Tisha, there's the death of a Charles Richard aged 77 in Ballarat in 1974. Parents = Charles LUNNON & Alice McELONE.
Ref = 12313
Perhaps Tisha can let us know if these are indeed the parents. :)
If it is, then purchasing the image of the death certificate would reveal any names of offspsring. :)
The image can be purchased and downloaded at
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/bdm/home
https://online.justice.vic.gov.au/CA2574F700805DE7/HomePage?ReadForm&1=Home~&2=~&3=~
I see they have moved! ::)
Dee :)
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Is he the one born Apr,May,Jun qr 1902 registered Croydon, UK?
His full name, then, is Charles William P LUNNON. As I said before there is a Charles William LUNNON on the electoral rolls, and now we have his full name this person seems more possible:
1931
District of Gippsland, Subdivision of Lindenow,
Charles William LUNNON, Stockdale, stockman
There seems to be only this one entry for this name, but I do not have access to Sth Australia rolls, or to NSW until later - he may well have moved on.
No likely entries for marriage or death on NSW BMDs but births are only up to 1909 so can't find any children in NSW for him.
Cheers, Judith
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Hi judith, thankyou for that, I did not have his full name as we have not yet gained a birth cert, thank you for this info. will try to follow on from this. Thanks again.Regards Tisha
Is he the one born Apr,May,Jun qr 1902 registered Croydon, UK?
His full name, then, is Charles William P LUNNON. As I said before there is a Charles William LUNNON on the electoral rolls, and now we have his full name this person seems more possible:
1931
District of Gippsland, Subdivision of Lindenow,
Charles William LUNNON, Stockdale, stockman
There seems to be only this one entry for this name, but I do not have access to Sth Australia rolls, or to NSW until later - he may well have moved on.
No likely entries for marriage or death on NSW BMDs but births are only up to 1909 so can't find any children in NSW for him.
Cheers, Judith
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Thanks for the additional information about parents, Tisha......it's helped.
He married in South Australia, but we'll find no records of the children in BMD indexes, as the marriage was too recent.
Here's the marriage details.....you get nearly as much as is on the certificate in the South Australian Index. :D
Charles William Percy LUNNON aged 27 and single married Florence Marion MCFARLANE aged 33 and single on 30th April 1929 at St Edwards Church, Kensington Gardens.
Fathers = William Julius LUNNON & Robert Muir MCFARLANE
Ref = Nor 319/419
Dee :D
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Good find Dee
this appears to be her death
at Centennial Park Adelaide
http://www.centennialpark.org/burial_memorial_search/
Interment Details
Florence Marion Lunnon from HOVE
Date of Death: 18/02/1968
Age: 71 Years
Perhaps a lookup from the papers of the time will reveal any family details
Jenn
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Here is her birth for your records
MCFARLANE Florence Marion born 14/7/1895 at Elliston South Australia
father Robert Muir McFarlane mother Louisa Florence Sinclair
Book 569 page 142
Jenn
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There's a submitted entry on the IGI for Charles William Percy LUNNON giving his death as 12 December 1981. No mention of where.
He doesn't turn up at Centennial Park where his wife was buried.
The Advertiser 1981 has an entry in Deaths, Funerals etc. for a Charles LUNNON.
Dee :)
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Another submitted entry has the birth of a daughter Enid Claire LUNNON on 13th March 1930 and her death on 15th June 1940.
Dee :)
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And here's the details from the Deaths Index......
Enid Claire LUNNON aged 10 years of Port Lincoln died 15th June 1940 at Port Lincoln.
Father = Charles William Percival LUNNON.
Ref = Fli H 625/2568
Also the death details with reference for Florence Marion LUNNON
Aged 71 of Brighton, wife of Charles William Percival LUNNON, died on 17th February 1968 at Brighton.
Ref = Ade H 44A/1256
Dee :)
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Hi Dee, thank you so much for this, any idea how i would find the children of this marriage or the family.Regards Tisha
Thanks for the additional information about parents, Tisha......it's helped.
He married in South Australia, but we'll find no records of the children in BMD indexes, as the marriage was too recent.
Here's the marriage details.....you get nearly as much as is on the certificate in the South Australian Index. :D
Charles William Percy LUNNON aged 27 and single married Florence Marion MCFARLANE aged 33 and single on 30th April 1929 at St Edwards Church, Kensington Gardens.
Fathers = William Julius LUNNON & Robert Muir MCFARLANE
Ref = Nor 319/419
Dee :D
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Hi Dee you girls are so good, thankyou for this will let you know how I get on.Regards Tisha
Good find Dee
this appears to be her death
at Centennial Park Adelaide
http://www.centennialpark.org/burial_memorial_search/
Interment Details
Florence Marion Lunnon from HOVE
Date of Death: 18/02/1968
Age: 71 Years
Perhaps a lookup from the papers of the time will reveal any family details
Jenn
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Hi Jenn, thank you this is all adding up now and adding to his branch of tree.Regards Tisha
Here is her birth for your records
MCFARLANE Florence Marion born 14/7/1895 at Elliston South Australia
father Robert Muir McFarlane mother Louisa Florence Sinclair
Book 569 page 142
Jenn
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Thanks dee.Regards Tisha
There's a submitted entry on the IGI for Charles William Percy LUNNON giving his death as 12 December 1981. No mention of where.
He doesn't turn up at Centennial Park where his wife was buried.
The Advertiser 1981 has an entry in Deaths, Funerals etc. for a Charles LUNNON.
Dee :)
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Thank you dee for all the extra information,Regards Tisha
And here's the details from the Deaths Index......
Enid Claire LUNNON aged 10 years of Port Lincoln died 15th June 1940 at Port Lincoln.
Father = Charles William Percival LUNNON.
Ref = Fli H 625/2568
Also the death details with reference for Florence Marion LUNNON
Aged 71 of Brighton, wife of Charles William Percival LUNNON, died on 17th February 1968 at Brighton.
Ref = Ade H 44A/1256
Dee :)
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Tisha, the marriage of Charles and Florence wasn't until 1929, and births are not available after 1928 I'm afraid, so can't help you with any more children.
Dee :)
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Hi Dee, thank you so much for this, any idea how i would find the children of this marriage or the family.
as I have suggested perhaps a copy of Florence's death or funeral notice may reveal family members.
Perhaps JudB as she is a visitor to the National Library could look this up when she gets time
Jenn
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Happy to do that ;D but won't be there now till late next week.
Judith
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thanks for judB help.Regards Tisha
Hi Dee, thank you so much for this, any idea how i would find the children of this marriage or the family.
as I have suggested perhaps a copy of Florence's death or funeral notice may reveal family members.
Perhaps JudB as she is a visitor to the National Library could look this up when she gets time
Jenn
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HI Jenn tried to find notice but n siteTisha
Hi Dee, thank you so much for this, any idea how i would find the children of this marriage or the family.
as I have suggested perhaps a copy of Florence's death or funeral notice may reveal family members.
Perhaps JudB as she is a visitor to the National Library could look this up when she gets time
Jenn
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sorry jenn that was meant to say could not find the webb site for advertiser.Tisha
There's a submitted entry on the IGI for Charles William Percy LUNNON giving his death as 12 December 1981. No mention of where.
He doesn't turn up at Centennial Park where his wife was buried.
The Advertiser 1981 has an entry in Deaths, Funerals etc. for a Charles LUNNON.
Dee :)
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Hi JUde thank you that would be appreciated.Regards Tisha
Happy to do that ;D but won't be there now till late next week.
Judith
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Adelaide Advertiser, Tuesday 20 Feb, 1968
No death notice, only this funeral notice which at least shows she is his wife:
LUNNON. The friends of Mr Charles William LUNNON of 374 Brighton Rd, Hove are respectfully advised that the funeral service for his late wife, Florence Marion, was privately cionducted at the Sir John McLeay Chapel, Centennial Park Crematorium on Monday. Trevelion & Son, Brighton
There is also the death notice for Charles - he must have remarried:
Adelaide Advertiser, Wed 16 December
LUNNON Charles - Husband of Mary, passed away at his residence on December 12, aged 79 years.
No Funeral Notice.
Looks as though there were no children (other than Enid who died aged 10)
Cheers, Judith
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Hello Judith, thank you for your time and trouble, maybe I will contact the funeral home, they may have some information.many thnaks again.Tisha
Adelaide Advertiser, Tuesday 20 Feb, 1968
No death notice, only this funeral notice which at least shows she is his wife:
LUNNON. The friends of Mr Charles William LUNNON of 374 Brighton Rd, Hove are respectfully adviseded that the funeral service for his late wife, Florence Marion, was privately cionducted at the Sir John McLeay Chapel, Centennial Park Crematorium on Monday. Trevelion & Son, Brighton
There is also the death notice for Charles - he must have remarried:
Adelaide Advertiser, Wed 16 December
LUNNON Charles - Husband of Mary, passed away at his residence on December 12, aged 79 years.
No Funeral Notice.
Looks as though there were no children (other than Enid who died aged 10)
Cheers, Judith
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Hi, Does anyone have any info on Gordon Lunnon who was a sea captain? There is some connection through his wife Lillian Gue to Michael Powell the Hollywood film director.
Any clever sleuths out there?
Thank you
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Be very helpfull if you could tell us more about GORDON ie his parents names where and when born and died ??
thanks Jenn
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Hi- That was quick- I am impressed!!!
Not much on him except he was a sea captain before the first world war- we have his sea chest with postcards in written from Burma to home.
Lillian Gue from Andover in Hampshire married an A. Lunnon- will check the dates and get back to you.
It is rumoured that somewhere here- either Lillian been married before or on the Lunnon side, there is the brother of Michael Latham Powell the Hollywood film director. He went out with Deborah Kerr at one time.
Sorry this is a bit hazy but I will get the dates for Lillan to you.
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Lillian Gue born 1885 at Owlsbury Hampshire, married L. Lunnon, had George.
Thank you
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Hi caefai,
You are probably aware your posting is on the Australian board..
You have not told us any reason you have for suspecting an Australian connection.
The Hollywood connection does not seem relevant at this point. ;D
Sue
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Hi You say that Lillian Gue born 1885 Hampshire was married to L.Lunnon, and had son george, we have a Lillian Gue married to a George Edward Lunnon in our tree with a child Albert George Estall LunnonB 1902 Clanville.Hampshire, where did you get the information that she was married tio L.Lunnon, as I have a lot of information as my Grandmother was a 'Lunnon'let me know, will try and find something for you with a little more information.Regards Tisha
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Hi Tisha,
Many thanks for your help. It is much appreciated.
Sue- the Hollywood connection is of interest as I am writing a piece for a prominant magazine in the U.K who is interested in the family.
As you are aware genealogists find relatives all over the World in their research , we have family all over the World.
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Hi, will you let me have more info, as there seem to be a few Lillian Gues around cant find any married to either A or L Lunnon though, one of the relatives a Louise Lunnon, george Edwards sister,married a Mountjoy, then into the Vansittart Bowater family as the lunnon's were paper manufactures and Bowater is the famous paper manufacturer, also my grandmothers daughter is a Van Laun as in a great grand daughter of Henry Theodor Van laun, would be interest in what you are doing.Regards Tisha
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Hi, came up with Lillian Gue born 1884 Hampshire U.K
Married a Lunnon and had George who married Anne Macintosh. George died however leaving no issue.
Lillian's parents were Albert 1854-1922 and Mary born 1847. Mary was born in Somerset.
Albert's father was called Thomas and mother Harriet.
There is a sea captain in this equation called Lunnon and the relationship to Michael Powell is here somewhere!!
Best Wishes,
Patricia
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Hi Patricia, I was trying to work out George was actually Albert George Lunnon, have you looked at 'The Estall family' tree its really interesting, hosted by Mark Baldachinno. how did you get the family'chest' what is your connection with the Lunnons',and being nosey what are you writing about, sounds good and would like to know when you have written it and for what mag, as would like to get a copy.Regards Tisha
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Hi Tisha, you are not nosey- family history is all about fact finding.
I will look at those sites.
My daughter has just got married- carrying on a very old tradion at the church. Two county magazines in Hampshire are interested in running a story so I wanted to add a few colourful characters.
Aunt Lily passed this chest down and it has some postcards send home from Burma in the early 1900's. My husband also has his telescope from his boat.
Will keep in touch over this.
Thank you.
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Hi caefai,
You are probably aware your posting is on the Australian board..
You have not told us any reason you have for suspecting an Australian connection.
The Hollywood connection does not seem relevant at this point. ;D
Sue
Sue asked you a couple of things here but you have only touched back on the "hollywood connection"
Do you think this person came to Australia?
The Australian members of rootschat have a good deal of resources and lots of time and energy to help you but we do need some information to do so
thanks Jenn
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Hi Jenn, Thank you.
Trish's help has been fantastic and I have made the connection with Estall.
No do not think there is an Australian connection at the moment but got to your site by typing into Google Lunnon and it came up with it. So glad I did too as I would never have found this connection.
We have now established the connection with the Lunnon's, and the sea chest belonging to Michael Powell's brother was with George Lunnon's wife Lily in London so there must be a connection as the family tales tell- but what?
Thank you everyone.
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what was Powell's brpthers name
Jenn
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Hi- we know him as Gordon. Thank you.
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Hi Patricia, just remembered(going daft) in our tree we have Jane Powell marrying William Scutt, with family name going through as Powell Scutt, adding a new tree to my list and working on it now.Speak soon.Tisha
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patricia, you say know as gorden but Lunnon not Powell ?Tisha
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Hi Tisha, Hubby says he must be Gordon Powell as he remembers it. The sea chest was at Lily Gues and given to his Dad after she died.
He is going to phone his Dad to see if he knows more although his parents are not very interested in family history!
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Hi, ok lots of gorden Powells, need birth year app and where and anything else you can get.speak soon Tisha
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Hi Tisha, going to get hubby to phone husband- might save us loads of work!
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Hello, not had contact for a while, just found that James Homes Gorden Powell Lily Gue's 2nd husband was an able seaman 1908 ish. on ancestry .
Tisha