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Wales (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Wales => Topic started by: andipandi on Wednesday 20 January 10 15:13 GMT (UK)
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Well it seems as thoght I have been on a wild goose chase but thanks to a marriage cert i could now be on the right road but I am stuck again. I'll expalin:My great grandfather Charles Abraham Bureau was born in 1859 and married in 1883 to Margaret Griffiths. I now know that his father is not another Charles A Bureau because of his marriage cert but he was called Jeremiah Bureau ( a mariner ). Charles (a lightship man of 12 crichton st cardiff)married Margaret in 1883 but on the marriage cert their address was the same as each other which leads me to believe they were living at the same address.
Can anyone shed any light on what a light ship man was and where I can go to find details on Jeremiah
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I cant see a birth reg for Charles Abraham around 1859
Hve you got a birth cert? If not Where did this date come from?
Aha - 1891 (RG12 4447 3 1) gives Charles' pob as Sheerness Kent.
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Possible for him in 1881
RG11 1369 23 39 living Monkon Hadley Middx, occ Baker so that is a bit different.
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Hi
yes thats it he is on the 1881 census born abt1859 in gravesend kent - a lodger
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Here is his birth - a bit earlier than thought
Birth
Charles Abraham Burean
Oct/Nov/Dec 1852
Sheppey Kent
2a 549
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that agrees with his YoB & Birthplace of Sheerness stated in later Welsh census.
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Can anyone shed any light on what a light ship man was and where I can go to find details on Jeremiah
I have just googled Lightship man and found this useful website amongst others ;D
http://www.old-merseytimes.co.uk/lightships.html
Carol
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Thanks for all your help so far so good
Andrea
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No joy in finding him (or a Jeremiah) on earlier censuses.
A copy of his birth cert might be a good idea to find who his mother was, and if father was Jeremiah or if that was made up for the marriage!
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The 1881 Census has the Stroud family living at 12 Crichton St. The head of family, George Stroud, is described as "Mate Breaksea Light Ship". Might your Charles have been on this partricular lightship?
The Breaksea came into service off Cardiff/Barry 1866.
On a separate thread you have posted a question about 12 Crichton St.
In 1881 it was occupied by one family + boarder.
In 1891 and 1901 it was occupied by 2 separate families.
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I noticed "andipandi" is looking for their great grandfather Charles Abraham Bureau. Charles is also my great grandfather, I am the daughter of Raymond Bureau, Raymond is the son of Tommy Bureau, the last born son of Charles and Margaret Bureau. I have details of all Charles and Margaret's children, Charles born 1889, Beatrice born 1889, Frances born 1892, William born 1894, Benjamin born 1896, Margaret born 1898 and Tommy born 1900. According to my grandfather, some of his siblings moved overseas, possibly America. Before their marriage, it seems Margaret worked as a servant/nanny for the Williams family at 22 Whitcombe St., Aberdare which was a type of sports club. I cannot find anything more re Charles' parents or why he moved from Kent to Wales. I have no details regarding him being a type of sailor. The census details his occupation as general labourer, then later as a below ground colliery worker. Charles died in 1904 and Margaret married again in about 1910 but I don't know to whom. I am keen to find out more regarding Charles' parents.
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Has anyone got that birth cert as in reply #4?
There will not be any progress, I think, till that is seen
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Thanks lidb
My great grandfather is definitely the one born Sheerness as shown on the 1891 and 1901 census. The 1901 includes all his children, including my grandfather, Tommy. I may have traced my GG grandfather and my GGG grandfather, thanks to enormous help from this website.
I now would like to trace the female side of the family so I will be begging for help again soon!
Bureau
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Hi this is a long shot due to time of the last post but I am also looking into the Bureau family tree. My great grandfather was also Charles bureau and after receiving his marriage certificate i now know his father was Jeremiah bureau. I can't seem to go any further in the family tree and I am well and truly stuck. Any help would be great
Thank you
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Hi this is a long shot due to time of the last post but I am also looking into the Bureau family tree. My great grandfather was also Charles bureau and after receiving his marriage certificate i now know his father was Jeremiah bureau. I can't seem to go any further in the family tree and I am well and truly stuck. Any help would be great
Thank you
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Hello there Alig and welcome to Rootschat.
Bureau hasn't been online since Dec 2012 ,but as long as she hasn't changed her email address,will be notified of replies to this thread and hopefully will come back on and reply.
Andipandi hasn't been online since April 2011 either.
If you want to start your own thread to see if any of us can help you please do so.
Find either the beginners page or the one relevant to the area that they came from and post it there.
Carol
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Hi this is a long shot due to time of the last post but I am also looking into the Bureau family tree. My great grandfather was also Charles bureau and after receiving his marriage certificate i now know his father was Jeremiah bureau. I can't seem to go any further in the family tree and I am well and truly stuck. Any help would be great
Thank you
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Hi, I am still registered and haven't changed my email address.
I would be happy to help any way I can, however I have drawn a blank with my great-grandfather's parents. Perhaps you could communicate with me directly and I can send you what I have so far. The main problem is that there are so many Bureau's with the same name. My email is sprog@gmail.co.za and I look forward to hearing from you and who are your parents, grandparents etc.
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Hi to everyone who’s been on the trail of Charles Bureau father of Charles Abraham Bureau.
Just putting a note here as progress has been made! Clare & I were lucky enough to have met several clever & kind people who were able to point us in the right direction.
Here’s a link to the thread, it’s a long one with plenty of twists & turns along the way, so do read to the end.
https://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=862683.msg7321034#msg7321034
We would now like to know more about Charles’ wife Janes’s ancestry, if anyone has made any headway on this we’d love to hear from you.