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Scotland (Counties as in 1851-1901) => Scotland => Lanarkshire => Topic started by: doch on Tuesday 19 January 10 20:47 GMT (UK)
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hi all.
i have recently discovered two of my g/g/grandparents died in barnhill poorhouse.does anyone have any info on this place,also how would a person end up in one of these poorhouses.
regards.doch.
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Hi
See this link
http://www.scan.org.uk/knowledgebase/topics/poorhouses_topic.htm
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hi carole.
thanks for that.
doch.
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Doch, Barnhill's use was changed to a hospital and the name changed to Foresthall, it was demolished years ago and is now a housing estate, I would think that the deaths there would be allotted space at Sighthill Cemetery which is a short distance away. Try the Mitchell Library's site virtualmitchell.....Skoosh.
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hi i don't have any info on that particular poorhouse but u can get a lot of info by doing a search of the workhouses in the area on line the Mitchel library in glasgow hold all the archive records people normally ended up in these places by either unable to support themselves in work or being to sick/elderly to work and having no family to support them good luck on searching
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hi skoosh and scardoo.
i seen a few old photos of barnhill on the mitchell site(scary place)are the records for barnhill on line?or do you have to go to the mitchell to look them up?
cheers.doch.
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The records are held in the Special Archives room on Level 2 of the Mitchell. As ever it's best to go prepared with some basic information
Name, Date of Birth & Date of Death
Remember if in doubt ask the staff, they are very helpful :)
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Don't forget that the Barnhill also had a hospital attached to it as part of the "services" it provided for the community.
On some occasions I have found people who were beyond the care that their family could provide admitted to the hospital sections of these places and while probably not an overly pleasant place it would have been preferable to dying on the streets - although from reading the difference would have been marginal.
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hi yokerbrian,falkyrn.
thanks for your helpful info.by the sounds of things the poorhouse must have been a horendous place to end your days,probably after a hard life.
the next time i'm home in glasgow i'll take wee trip up to the mitchell and see if i can find any info on my rellies.
regards.doch.
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doch, check the opening times at the Mitchell, I think the Archives are now closed on Saturdays, which is often the only time folk have available for searches...Skoosh.
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Hi,
GOOD NEWS MITCHELL NOW HAS JUST OPENED ON SATERDAYS
AGAIN BUT IF YOU NEED POOR RECORD BOOKS YOU MUST CALL
AHEAD AS THEY HAVE NO ONE TO BRING THEM UP ON SATS.
BACK TO LONGER HOURS AGAIN ALSO...CROOKEDTAIL
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hi skoosh,crookedtail.
thanks for the info.i'll keep that in mind.
regards.doch.
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I just realized that one of my ancestors in 1901 was at the Barnhill Poorhouse. Did you ever find any info on that place, how they get there etc? Is it a hospital?
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I just realized that one of my ancestors in 1901 was at the Barnhill Poorhouse. Did you ever find any info on that place, how they get there etc? Is it a hospital?
Barnhill was both a poorhouse (workhouse) and a hospital - more information can be found at
http://www.workhouses.org.uk/Barony/
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To anyone thinking of chasing up Barnhill or any of the other Poorhouse records - it can be truly so worth the effort. Even if you don't know for sure that they were there (e.g. - you know they really hit hard times, - or somewhere any of them are listed as being "paupers"). If you are lucky, the records can open a wealth of information not only about the individual, but about their family. Found some of my direct ancestors this way- would never have found them otherwise - cos they came over from Ireland - and then half of them died between "censuses".
Good luck !
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If folk claimed the parish at all they were classed as a "Pauper" the Glasgow Poor-Law records are a great source of info'
Skoosh.
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To anyone thinking of chasing up Barnhill or any of the other Poorhouse records - it can be truly so worth the effort. Even if you don't know for sure that they were there (e.g. - you know they really hit hard times, - or somewhere any of them are listed as being "paupers"). If you are lucky, the records can open a wealth of information not only about the individual, but about their family. Found some of my direct ancestors this way- would never have found them otherwise - cos they came over from Ireland - and then half of them died between "censuses".
Good luck !
Thanks for the info,where would you be able to search the records? I had an ancestor who died in barnhill after a fall and i’d Love to find out which part of Ireland she was from so I can go back a bit further with her side of the family.
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Sorry folks,just re read the thread ::). The Mitchell would be the place to see the records. I don’t live in the uk now so I won’t be able to access the records,if anybody is going to the Mitchell,and would be able to have a look for me i’d Be really grateful.
Thanks,John.
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Hi John,
I too an expatriate Scot live too far away - Australia to be precise. However the Glasgow City Archives people - will do searches for Poor Law records for you. I have had a look and they have changed their website etc.... but if you check out the following link - it will tell you all about the records in general - and at the right hand side of the page, it gives an email address for the Glasgow City Archives - give as much info as you can in your email - and they will hopefully find some worthwhile stuff for you - It has been a fair while since I last did a search (have done various on different sides of family - amazing just how many of our ancestors were "on the Parish"). From what I remember they charge a fee, - but very reasonable, and they are very helpful. The link for the page is https://www.glasgowfamilyhistory.org.uk/ExploreRecords/Pages/Poor-Law.aspx
Good luck!
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Thanks magbil,I’ll certainly look into it.
Regards.