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Title: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: rob67 on Tuesday 19 January 10 10:09 GMT (UK)
Hi I have done really well doing my family tree, untill i get to my ggg grandfather Robert Mullen born Ireland but settled in Lanarkshire Scotland, he was born 1833 Ireland married 1851 in Aidrie to Ellen Colligan 1835 also born Ireland,,
Roberts Father also Called Robert married to Mary McQueen both of Ireland,were and how would i go about finding out, exactly were they were from in Ireland, any help would be really appreciated many thanks in advance  :P
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: imeldageordie on Tuesday 19 January 10 12:51 GMT (UK)
Hi

My husband has the same family in his tree and we haven't got any further either, so I would also be grateful for the advice!

Just out of interest, Rob, do you mind me asking who is your link? We share Robert, and it's his daughter, Catherine, who married Alexander Hutchison, who is my husband's ggg grandmother. 

Julie
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: rob67 on Tuesday 19 January 10 15:50 GMT (UK)
Hi Julie. Robert is my great great great grandfather, im from his eldest son Robert who married a Ann Fisher,, i have most certificates and details if you need any? ;D
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: BrendanM on Tuesday 19 January 10 17:50 GMT (UK)
In Irish Origins I located the following -
Dublin City census 1851
Just 1 Robert Mullen listed, - 21 Blackhall Street, Barrister.
 
Griffiths Valuation (1847 - 1864)  Robert Mullen
1 in Dublin, as above.
3 in Antrim      4 in Armagh      4 in Donegal    1 in Fermanagh
1 in Galway     3 in Londonderry     1 in Meath
 
William Smith O'Brien Petition (Signed in 1848-49)
This contains the same Robert Mullen in Dublin City and
1 in Westmeath and 1 in Mayo.

My paternal ancestors were also Mullen/Mullins, but so far, all in Dublin. Other spellings are Mullan, and MacMullen which is numerous in Antrim and Down - the form of the Scottish 'MacMillan' used in Ireland.
Do you know if he was a Catholic or Protestant?  'Robert' was most likely a Prot. name, and more likely to come from the northern Counties.

Brendan
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: rob67 on Tuesday 19 January 10 22:00 GMT (UK)
Hi Brendan thanks for your reply, according to records i have of Robert he is a catholic,
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: imeldageordie on Wednesday 20 January 10 12:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Rob

That wpuld be brilliant. I'll have a look and see what I'm missing and come back to you if that's okay.

Julie :D
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: rob67 on Wednesday 20 January 10 15:22 GMT (UK)
Hi Julie, yeah just send me message, with email etc will gladly pass them on for you, Rob ;)
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: Oaks and Acorns on Wednesday 20 January 10 22:09 GMT (UK)
Seems to be a lot of interest in the Mullen / Mullin family atm.

Have you seen the topics on the Dublin board?

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,412018.0.html

And

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,431216.0.html

Dara.
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: rob67 on Wednesday 20 January 10 22:31 GMT (UK)
Thanks  for them links going to have a look tonight, problem i have is not knowing which part of Ireland they are from, I do know they were catholic, dont know if this effects which part they lived in, again thanks for links and reply,
 Rob
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: rob67 on Sunday 24 January 10 08:24 GMT (UK)
I have tried every site i can find , no luck, think i had better leave this 1, :'(
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 24 January 10 08:53 GMT (UK)
your best bet is to search for anything you can locate in Scottish records (census returns, bmd certs, wills, old letters etc), to see if there is any mention of a more specific location ..



Shane
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: Jytefas on Sunday 24 January 10 10:57 GMT (UK)
Rob,

The following link shows the number of Mullen households in each county in the Primary Valuation property survey of 1847-64.

Mullen Households 1847-64

My Great Grand Uncle Thomas Kavanagh married an Ellen Mullen of Dublin. Their second son born in 1878 was christen Christopher, so following the ‘Irish Naming Convention’ which I find very reliable, would suggest Ellen’s fathers name was Christopher. So that’s where I am at this moment!

Irish Naming Convention
The 1st son was usually named after the father's father
The 2nd son was usually named after the mother's father
The 3rd son was usually named after the father
The 4th son was usually named after the father's eldest brother
The 5th son was usually named after the mother's eldest brother
The 1st daughter was usually named after the mother's mother
The 2nd daughter was usually named after the father's mother
The 3rd daughter was usually named after the mother
The 4th daughter was usually named after the mother's eldest sister
The 5th daughter was usually named after the father's eldest sister

Regards
John G.
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: Jytefas on Sunday 24 January 10 10:59 GMT (UK)

Apologies messed up posting the link in previous post,

http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/index.cfm?fuseaction=Go.&UserID=


rgds John
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: rob67 on Monday 25 January 10 08:10 GMT (UK)
Hi John thanks for the info and link, hope this gives me a little more on family, Irish on my mothers side was  easier as had details, Doolittles Wicklow, but i did not realise how common Mullen was,i thought having Mullen -McQueen marriage would narrow it down a bit, Ive gone over all my certs in Scotland, again no luck in telling me were, just says born Ireland on most, and Parents were etc, so again thanks for any links and info, fingers crossed on this 1 lol ;)
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: Jytefas on Friday 29 January 10 18:14 GMT (UK)
Hi Rob,

Not sure it helps you any, just received marriage cert for Thomas Kavanagh and Ellen Mullen. Ellen’s father as I suspected is indeed Christopher and his occupation is carpenter. They were living in Jamestown in 1871.

Sorry I could not be of anymore help and good luck in your quest.

Regards
John
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Saturday 20 February 10 17:43 GMT (UK)
Hi Rob,

I would be interested in your Doolittle/Mullen family from Wicklow. I have a John Mullen who married Harriet Ffoulkes. 5 known children: Is this your family?

1 Joseph Christopher Mullen, baptised in St Patrick’s Church Wicklow Town, 22nd December 1856
2 Mary Jane Mullen, baptised in St Patrick’s Church, Wicklow Town, 23rd December 18613 Michael born 24 Feb 1865
4 Peter J. born circa 1869 [died 25 Jan 1947, The Mall, Wicklow age 78 yrs]
5 Bill, no dates but he emigrated to NY.

Mary Jane Mullen married 2 Aug 1882 St. Patrick's R.C. Church, Wicklow to
George Wall, son of John Wall & Catherine Doolittle, [George was the 2nd of 11 children]
Catherine’s parents were George Doolittle & Catherine Connor of Wicklow
Census 1911 for Mary Jane: b1 South Quay 65/35 age 48 'Widow'

Julia
Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: aghadowey on Saturday 20 February 10 17:48 GMT (UK)
Christopher J. Mullen, born Ireland, son of John Mullen and Harriet Foulks, married 13 Oct.1894 Manhattan, New York, to Ellen Hogan (IGI at www.familysearch.org).

Title: Re: Mullen/scotland/born Ireland
Post by: J.M. Flannery on Tuesday 23 February 10 16:28 GMT (UK)
Hi Aghadowey,

Many thanks for yor reply, found him.

Julia