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Research in Other Countries => New Zealand => New Zealand Completed Requests => Topic started by: Jacq on Sunday 17 January 10 23:21 GMT (UK)
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I'd be grateful for any information on Richard Tear. The only facts I have about him is he married Isabella Bird sometime around 1855/56 and that he died on 7 Sept.1899 (from Papers Past). This is a last resort before sending for his death certificate! :)
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Hi Jacq
Mmmm ... I think that as a marriage certificate of circa 1850's gives only minimal information, then the death record for Richard is a very worthwhile purchase. :) [A "printout" of the record (as opposed to a certificate), will offer additional information].
Have you checked the Nelson Early Settlers (online) database ?
Also I note there are records for the family on the LDS site.
http://www.familysearch.org/
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~ Lu
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Hi Jacq,
There are two small mentions of Richard Tear on the Papers Past site (http://paperspast.natlib.govt.nz). The first is from the Nelson Evening Mail in November 1891:
'Today in Chambers, before the Registrar Of the Supreme Court, on the motion of Mr Harley, letters of administration of the estate of George Tear, deceased, were granted to Richard Tear, next of kin.'
The second one is also from the Nelson Evening Mail in 1898:
'Lloyds Newspaper is inquiring on behalf of friends for "Richard Tear of Dalston, who went to Nelson about 1852; he thought of going to the Dunmore (sic) copper mines. Brother Jacob asks. No news since 1860." A Mr Richard Tear, a well-known resident, lives at present in Stoke.'
THe 1851 census has a Richard Tear living with his brother Jacob, father William and numerous other family members in St Leonard Shoreditch. This Richard was born in Bedford c1824.
Hope this helps.
Ros
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Thanks, Lu. Yes, I did see his family on the LDS site. My ancestor was the unnamed female in 1857...typical! I have also seen the other records you mention, and found them very interesting in regards to my other Nelson family, but not the Tears.
I went through Papers Past, Ros, and totally missed those references to Richard Tear!
Thanks heaps for that. I'll chase those up on Ancestry. Brother Jacob is a good clue.
Thanks very much both of you for your help and time. I appreciate it.
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Besides the two un-named children born 1857 and 1859, there are four named children showing on BMD born 1861 to 1870 with names including Richard and Isabella, so although parents names are not shown, it's most likely them. ??? ???
Richard jnr married Charlotte Matilda Thomas 1886, and looks like she had four children also, before death at age 32 in 1895.
Richard jnr died 1934 and both Richards are buried in Nelson.
John B
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Thank you, John. Yes, they seem to be the only Tear family in Nelson. I do know the names of the two (as then) unnamed children. There is quite a lot of information about them in Papers Past, but it's getting them one step further back to where Richard came from that's my problem. Thanks for your help.
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I've found him! He was the son of William and Judith Tear of Potton, Bedfordshire.
Thank you so much for all your help.
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Glad to hear you made your connection, Jacq,
and thanks for letting us know. :)
John B
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Well done. Interested to know where you found them??
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It was through you, Ros, and the clue about his brother Jacob. They were the ones you found in the 1851 census. It just said Bedford as their birth county, so I looked up Jacob in 1861, then living in Kent. He gave his place of birth as Potton. So I looked up Potton in Hugh Wallis' Batch Numbers and found the whole family. Jacob's middle name was Miller, his grandmother's name I think. William Tear married Elizabeth Miller in 1790 at Potton. In the 1861 census Jacob is shown as Jacob.M. Tear. By that census his father William had died (in 1856). Richard and Jacob's mother was Judith Richards.
Can't confirm that William was the son of William and Elizabeth though as I can't find a baptism for him c.1792.
So thanks again for your help. :)
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Jacq. We are a Tear family living in Stoke. Richard Tear senior (1811 - 1899) was my great great grandfather. We have been researching details of his arrival in NZ. Coincidentally he is buried in St Barnabus Church in Stoke which we live close by to. We would be very interested in sharing on the Tear family.
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Greetings piney, and "Welcome" to Rootschat ;D ;)
I hope you can make contact with jacq and swap notes.
Just be aware that RC policy prohibits the posting of any details re living persons. If you post two more messages, (e.g. just a smiley, or single word) you can then make use of the PM system to send a response directly to jacq or any other poster.
Good Luck with your research.
John B
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Welcome to the NZ Board Piney, ;D
It's great to see people make connections.
Spades
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Thanks for that John B. We have our Tear arm well documented up to Richard senior (immigrant from Potton, Bedfordshire). Have also learnt recently of his parents William and Judith Tear. Will be interested to learn where Jacq fits in.
Piney :)
Greetings piney, and "Welcome" to Rootschat ;D ;)
I hope you can make contact with jacq and swap notes.
Just be aware that RC policy prohibits the posting of any details re living persons. If you post two more messages, (e.g. just a smiley, or single word) you can then make use of the PM system to send a response directly to jacq or any other poster.
Good Luck with your research.
John B
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:)
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Hi Folks
I found this thread by following a lead to Judith Richards. Does anyone know anything about her origins please?
Helen
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Subsequent to Helen posting this message there have been developments on a connected thread at http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=537571.new#new
Richard Tear senior (1811 - 1899) was my great great grandfather.
Piney, how sure are you about the birth in 1811, which was three years before William and Judith married? They baptised a Richard in Potton on 12 Feb 1818, with no indication that it was a late baptism
David
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Yes, thank you, my question has been answered.
Helen
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Hi Jacq, I am a newbie to RootsChat but just came across what must be an old post of yours.
I don't know how much you found out about Richard Tear but I can confirm that his full name was Richard Miller Tear and was the son of William Tear and Judith Richards from Potton, Bedfordshire. His second name came from his grandmother, Elizabeth Miller. He had 8 siblings, Mary Ann, William, Maria Mason, Jacob Miller, Elizabeth, Thomas, Sarah and Charlotte. His sister, Mary Ann Tear, eventually married Thomas Parkin at Biggleswade, Bedfordshire in 1842. That is where I fit into the story, Mary Ann Tear and Thomas Parkin were my great, great grandparents.
I'm sorry if I am repeating what you already know but I hope that this will help you.
Please contact me if you need more info.
Best Regards,