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Title: FLORENCE FLATLEY - COMPLETED
Post by: springtime 60 on Saturday 16 January 10 16:16 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any further info on florence she was born 1895 in willenhall, i can't see her on any later census ,no death, no marriage for her .she was christened at ST GILES in willenhall
is this church used by boat people does anyone know
                      ann
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: Cathymjp on Monday 18 January 10 19:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Ann,

Do you have any names of the parents from the christening record in St. Giles Willenhall?

She is very elusive.

Cathy ;D ;D
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: springtime 60 on Monday 18 January 10 20:07 GMT (UK)
hi cathy
yes the parents are william and ellen, boat people i believe this church was used by boaters
                     ann
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: maryblue on Monday 18 January 10 20:36 GMT (UK)
Hi
Could this be them with no Florence, possibly Nellie is Florence.

1901
6 Chadwick St?, Kidderminster
William Flatley 39 - Boatman on canal
Ellen Flatley 39
Samuel Flatley 15 - Foundry waker? / Manf
William Flatley 11 - born Moxley Shropshire
Nellie Flatley 9 - born Moxley Shropshire
Elsie Flatley 1 - born Moxley Shropshire
Mary Mayall 68 - Boarder - Wid - Sewing woman
others born Kidder
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: springtime 60 on Monday 18 January 10 20:42 GMT (UK)
yes the same family but no florence who i am trying to search for, nellie born1892, florence 1895, elsie may 1899 looks like there is a child between nellie and elsie rather a big gap
nellie is another name for ellen
                 ann
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: madabout on Tuesday 19 January 10 09:17 GMT (UK)
I can find Elsie May Flatley living with her brother Samuel in Kidderminster, not found the rest of the family yet.
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: madabout on Tuesday 19 January 10 09:24 GMT (UK)
William (now widower) senior & son are living on a vessel in Wales
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: madabout on Tuesday 19 January 10 09:36 GMT (UK)
Did Florence marry?
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: springtime 60 on Tuesday 19 January 10 17:06 GMT (UK)
thankyou for your research,i'm interested in the bit about william senior and william junior together
william wasa widower in 1907
i have nothing on Florence other than christening details its a puzzle where she is
elsie may is with her brother on 1911census which i know thanks
                ann
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: madabout on Wednesday 20 January 10 08:39 GMT (UK)
Sadly the number of children born to a marriage is listed next to the wife's name not the fathers.

Is Florence the only christening record you have for the family.

Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: madabout on Wednesday 20 January 10 08:50 GMT (UK)
I can't see a birth for Florence.
All you have is a christening for her. No entries on census returns, no marriage or death.

Either poor Florence was a sickly child who they had christened, she died & the vicar buried her ?? Not sure if he was allowed to but ..

or ??



Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: Willow 4873 on Wednesday 20 January 10 12:52 GMT (UK)
Very strangely there is a death of a Florence Flatley May 1985 in Cheshire dob 2.11.1901 and on the baptism record it gives her date of birth as 22.11.1895 though as it gives her baptism date as 20.11.1895 so thats a bit impossible

Willow x
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: springtime 60 on Wednesday 20 January 10 14:55 GMT (UK)
all i have on florence is 20 11 1895 christening
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: Willow 4873 on Wednesday 20 January 10 21:23 GMT (UK)
On Ancestry it gives her date of birth as 22.11.1895 which is a bit impossible with a baptism on 20.11.1895 which is why I think it might be 2.11.1895 and someone mistranscribed it. The Florence who died May 1985 year of birth is out by 6 years but that depends on the person who registered the death knowing her correct year of birth and they may have been out

You could e-mail Wolverhampton Archives and ask them if they would look at the record for you to confirm the actual DOB they are usually very helpful archives@wolverhampton.gov.uk

Willow x
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: springtime 60 on Wednesday 20 January 10 22:20 GMT (UK)
thankyou .yes it is obviously a mistake in transcribing .
the death of florence in london is a 5 year old child in oct qtr in 1884.
notsure if it is same florence
ann
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: madabout on Thursday 21 January 10 11:37 GMT (UK)
There is a Florrie Flatley age 6months died 19 4 1896
father John
I've had this off http://www.wolverhamptonhistory.org.uk/resources/familyhistory
it does list a child with the surname Flatley whose father is a boatman.
Look in Merridale cemetery, 1850-1937
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: madabout on Thursday 21 January 10 11:44 GMT (UK)
Sorry, Florrie's father is James. I can't find a birth or death registered for Florrie in th civil index.
John Flatley is the boatman next entry.
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: springtime 60 on Thursday 21 January 10 14:03 GMT (UK)
thankyou william had elsie may,( nellie or ellen ), william, Florence, in wolverhampton area  williams father is john he died in kidderminster
   i am hoping soon to go to wolverhampton to search their canal records and parish records

                  ann
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: madabout on Sunday 24 January 10 13:15 GMT (UK)
Looks like the best thing to do.
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: springtime 60 on Sunday 24 January 10 15:26 GMT (UK)
yes off there this week
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: springtime 60 on Monday 31 December 12 10:52 GMT (UK)
hello cinderdrinker,florrie has wrong father as you pointed out.
im interested in the john flatley boatmen,if you have further info about his death
thankyou
             ann
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY completed
Post by: springtime 60 on Friday 04 January 13 18:59 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any further info on florence she was born 1895 in willenhall, i can't see her on any later census ,no death, no marriage for her .she was christened at ST GILES in willenhall
is this church used by boat people does anyone know
                      ann
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY completed
Post by: springtime 60 on Friday 04 January 13 19:02 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any further info on florence she was born 1895 in willenhall, i can't see her on any later census ,no death, no marriage for her .she was christened at ST GILES in willenhall
is this church used by boat people does anyone know
                      ann
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY completed
Post by: springtime 60 on Friday 04 January 13 19:03 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any further info on florence she was born 1895 in willenhall, i can't see her on any later census ,no death, no marriage for her .she was christened at ST GILES in willenhall
is this church used by boat people does anyone know
                      ann
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY completed
Post by: springtime 60 on Friday 04 January 13 19:04 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any further info on florence she was born 1895 in willenhall, i can't see her on any later census ,no death, no marriage for her .she was christened at ST GILES in willenhall
is this church used by boat people does anyone know
                      ann
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY completed
Post by: springtime 60 on Friday 04 January 13 19:08 GMT (UK)
hello cinderdrinker,florrie has wrong father as you pointed out.
im interested in the john flatley boatmen,if you have further info about his death
thankyou
             ann
Title: Re: FLORENCE FLATLEY
Post by: Pels. on Friday 04 January 13 19:23 GMT (UK)



Hi Ann,

Hi there
Have you seen the burial at Merridale cemetary for a Florrie Flatley age 6 months 19.4.1896 from Wolverhampton All Saints d of James lab Workhouse Union.?
Ciderdrinker

Ciderdrinker replied on this thread of yours :

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The best idea to attract their attention would be to respond to them via the above link, they will then hopefully receive a notification.

Good luck,

Pels.