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Title: Help please,Dublin cop
Post by: onamission on Friday 15 January 10 23:57 GMT (UK)
I'm looking for a John Pearce, constable from Dublin ,his daughters born approx 1850 came to NZ in 1866, so he would have been a constable around this time. there are 3 Pearce's  listed in a search i saw but no names or dates.Can any body help please?
Title: Re: Help please,Dublin cop
Post by: eadaoin on Saturday 16 January 10 12:11 GMT (UK)
I'd ask the mods to move this to Dublin - you'd probably get some help there!

There are records in both Kew and Dublin of RIC people - probably DMP too.

eadaoin
Title: Re: Help please,Dublin cop
Post by: mcmahongg on Saturday 16 January 10 22:38 GMT (UK)
Hi

I've checked the standard reference works:

(1)
Jim Herlihy, The Dublin Metropolitan Police: A complete Alphabetical List of Officers and Men , 1836-1925.
Noting found for John Pearce or similar

(2)
Jim Herlihy, The Royal Irish Constabulary: A complete Alphabetical List of Officers and Men , 1816-1922.
Entries found:
John Pearce, Service No. 75456
William John Pearse, Service No. 69886

The service no. for John Pearce corresponds to an entry date to the force of Oct-Dec 1920 - much too late for the man of interest. The Pearse entry corresponds to Feb-Apr 1920.

Not promising, unfortunately. Perhaps he was a constable in England ?

regards

Gerry

Title: Re: Help please,Dublin cop
Post by: deevla on Sunday 17 January 10 14:17 GMT (UK)

Hi gerry

Could you help me please, would you be able to  tell me the entry date to the force of John Phelan, DMP 8648, born 1856, Raheen, Queen's County, died 1911

Regards
Deevla
Title: Re: Help please,Dublin cop
Post by: mcmahongg on Sunday 17 January 10 14:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Deevla

Unfortunately the Herlihy index reference give no more information than you have already - it doesn't give the date of entry to the force - you need to look up the actual records to get that.

However, Appendix 1 of the book gives a correlation between Service Numbers and Date of Appointment which ties down the period in which a man joined:

Service No. 8564; 1 Jan 1880
Service No. 8674; 1 Jan 1881

So, it would seem that John Phelan joined the force in late 1880.

best regards

Gerry
Title: Re: Help please,Dublin cop
Post by: shanew147 on Sunday 17 January 10 15:03 GMT (UK)

Hi gerry

Could you help me please, would you be able to  tell me the entry date to the force of John Phelan, DMP 8648, born 1856, Raheen, Queen's County, died 1911

Regards
Deevla


there's a John Phelan listed as a station sergeant at C-Division, Store Street station in Dublin (DMP) in 1889. There's no service number mentioned - but he could be the same one..

The other sergeants at the station are at that time are Thomas Lawler and John Cooke

Title: Re: Help please,Dublin cop
Post by: csso on Friday 24 February 23 17:23 GMT (UK)
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Hi gerry

Could you help me please, would you be able to  tell me the entry date to the force of John Phelan, DMP 8648, born 1856, Raheen, Queen's County, died 1911

Regards
Deevla

I see that this post is from quite some time ago but I am looking to trace relatives of the late John Phelan, Dublin Metropolitan Police Office referred to by Deevla above.  I was wondering if Deevla could possibly contact me as I am aware of another direct descendant of John Phelan and I am hoping to get some more information on his descendants.
Thank you,
Mairead
Title: Re: Help please,Dublin cop
Post by: dublin1850 on Sunday 26 February 23 23:44 GMT (UK)
Just for completeness, John Phelan DMP 8648 was assigned to Division F on 12 November 1880.
DMP General Register is here: https://digital.ucd.ie/view/ucdlib:53467 (https://digital.ucd.ie/view/ucdlib:53467)
It's not searchable, but once you get the man's service number you can browse the images to find him.