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Title: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: Rodger on Monday 11 January 10 22:30 GMT (UK)
I am looking for any information on an Alexander Smith of Daviot in Inverness-shire who married a Catherine Rose about 1796. They would have lived in the period from 1770 to 1850. They had 5 sons and 2 daughters. Their oldest son, Andrew (1797-1874) married Catherine Fraser in 1826, daughter of John Fraser & Marjory Rose. John and Marjory had 8 sons and 2 daughters. They lived also from about 1770-1850 and also at Daviot. The parish records at Daviot may have been destroyed by fire but I'm hoping someone knows something of these 2 families.
Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: ghostwhisperer on Tuesday 12 January 10 09:57 GMT (UK)
Dunlichity Cemetery

Erected by Andrew Smith, America, CW in memory of his father Alexander Smith, late Blacksmith, Achlaschoile who died 8th Oct 1854 aged 67 years. And of his mother Catherine Rose. Also his brother Hugh.
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp8/Ghostwhisperer_01/58.jpg

Also

In memory of John Fraser, late Tacksman, Achavaneran who died 1st Aug 1840 aged 68 years. And of his beloved wife Marjory Rose who died 2nd Nov 1854 aged 73 years. Also of their sons Charles who died in April 1833 aged 6 years and Simon who died 28th Feb 1857 aged 34 years.
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp8/Ghostwhisperer_01/89-3.jpg

and alongside this one

Erected by John Fraser in memory of William Fraser his son who died 25th April 1831 aged 24.
http://i392.photobucket.com/albums/pp8/Ghostwhisperer_01/88-1.jpg
Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: Rodger on Tuesday 12 January 10 15:43 GMT (UK)
Thanks ghostwhisperer this was a big help. I believe that 'Achavaneran' is a farm or place but do you know if 'Achlaschoile' is also a farm or place?
Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: ghostwhisperer on Tuesday 12 January 10 19:12 GMT (UK)
I would imagine it was a Farm or Estate.
Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: Rodger on Tuesday 12 January 10 20:32 GMT (UK)
thanks again for your help :)
Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: Piglet01 on Tuesday 12 January 10 23:10 GMT (UK)
Excellent work ghostwhisperer.   :)

Rodger,  both your adresses can be found by going to www.old-mpas.co.uk - you'll get the postcodes from there.  Achaschoile is at IV2 6XG

If you use the National Library of Scotland maps site using their 6" to 1 mile maps at

http://geo.nls.uk/os6inch/google.html

Zoom down to just south of Inverness where the road junction of the B861 and B851 meetat Tombreck.  Change to 'historic 'view   and go about 1 screen to the north - slightly east.  You'll come across Achaschoile.

If you're having problems please get back to me.

Regards,   Steve
Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: Rodger on Wednesday 13 January 10 01:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks for youre help Steve. I've gone on that site and found Tombreck. I've changed to 'historic' and moved north and slightly east but am unable to find Achaschoile. It's probably right in front of me but I can't see it, but I'm sure I will find it.
Regards Rodger
Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: Piglet01 on Wednesday 13 January 10 07:07 GMT (UK)
No problems Rodger.  Blame my explanation... 

You've got Tombreck.  Just to the west there is a palce called Balnafoich.  Follow thre road up from there - under 'historic' - you come to a Mill dam.  A relatively short distance to the north and west of there - still to the west of the River  Nairn is Achlaschoile .  (on the map spelt with 2 x ll's).  Good luck.

Regards,   Steve   :O)
Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: Rodger on Wednesday 13 January 10 16:15 GMT (UK)
Thanks Steve! I found Achlaschoille on the map by sooming in further. You and ghostwhisperer have been a great help.
Thanks again
Rodger :D
Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: clarimer on Wednesday 08 December 10 18:59 GMT (UK)
Hi Roger,

I am descendant of Andrew Smith and Catherine Fraser, who came from the Dunlichity area. I live in the US, but I have been to that area several times. Are you also a descendant?

Achvaneran is a farm located close to the Dunlichity Burial Ground, where Andrew and Catherine's parents are both buried, along with many of their siblings. Ray Collier, who is the nature writer for the Manchester Guardian, lives at the farm now.

I've shown some of the family tree information below. Andrew and Catherine (and you probably know this already) are buried in Dixon Union Cemetery in Ontario, Canada.

Thanks,
Charlie Fraser Larimer
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  1  Andrew Smith  1797 - 1874 
    +Catherine Fraser  1809 - 1887 
       2  Alexander Smith  1827 - 1894 
         +Euphemia Graham  1832 - 1928 
            3  Kate Smith   
              +George Beatty   
            3  Annie Smith  -1921 
              +Roderick McKenzie   
            3  Marjory Smith  1863 - 1909 
            3  Andrew Smith  1864 - 
              +Jenny Robinson   
            3  Mary Smith   
              +W. Graham   
       2  Marjory Smith  1828 - 1916 
         +John McGillivray   
            3  Donald McGillivray   
            3  Andrew McGillivray  -1872 
            3  Mary McGillivray   
            3  Kate McGillivray   
            3  Finlay McGillivray   
       2  John Smith  1831 - 1909 
         +Janet McKechnie  1833 - 1870 
            3  Catherine (Kate) Fraser Smith  1858 - 1938 
            3  Martha (Mattie) Smith  1860 - 1944 
            3  Isabelle (Belle) Smith  1862 - 
              +Roderick John McGregor  1862 - 1945 
            3  Annie Victoria Smith  -1880 
              *2nd Wife of John Smith:   
              +Hannah Hagyard  1843 - 1930 
       2  William Smith  1833 - 1919 
         +Margaret McFarlane   
         *2nd Wife of William Smith:   
         +Mary McFarlane   
       2  Andrew Smith  1835 - 1867 
       2  Catherine Smith  1837 - 1898 
         +Duncan Sinclair   
            3  Annie   
            3  Jennie  -1901 
            3  Roxie   
              +Andrew Elliot   
       2  Finlay Affick Smith  1840 - 1910 
         +Mary Jane Fuller   
            3  Andrew Fraser Smith   
              +Mary "Minnie" Elizabeth Eddy Hill    aka: Minnie Hill
       2  Donald Smith  1842 - 1915 
         +Margaret McGregor  1846 - 1920 
            3  Mabel M. Smith  1876 - 1967 
            3  Andrew Gregor Smith  1879 - 1947 
              +Myrtle Brooks   
            3  Donald Alpine Smith  1880 - 
              +Blanche (Poppet) Robertshaw  1902 - 1967 
            3  William Fraser Smith  1883 - 1969 
              +Helen Flora Brown  1896 - 1952 
            3  Roderick J. Smith  1885 - 1910 
       2  Isabella Smith  1844 - 1913 
         +David Little   
            3  William John Little   
              +Jean McClusky   
              *2nd Wife of William John Little:   
              +Isabelle Mary Smith   
            3  Andrew Little   
            3  Mary Little   
              +James Whitefield   
            3  Katie Little  -1879 
            3  Joseph A. Little   
            3  Belle Little  -1918 
            3  Hugh S. Little  -1909 
       2  James Smith  1846 - 1848 
       2  Hugh Smith  1848 - 1917 
         +Beatrice Hagyard  1852 - 1929 
            3  Andrew Fraser Smith  1835 - 
            3  Edward Thomas Smith  1878 - 1852 
              +Theresa (Essie) May Copeland  1877 - 1959 
            3  Atta Smith  -1911 
              +H. Matson   
            3  Hugh Smith   
              +Etta Gertrude (Gertie) Snyder   
       2  Mary A Smith  1851 - 1852 
       2  James Smith  1853 - 1855 



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Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: Rodger on Thursday 09 December 10 21:38 GMT (UK)
Hi Charlie
Thanks for this information. I am a descendant of Finlay Smith, Andrew and Catherine's 7th child. He was my great grandfather. Until I got your email I never knew his middle name. Where did Affick come from? I have a picture of Alexander and Catherine Rose's tombstone at Dunlichity, but as you know her birth and death dates are not on it. Do you know if she was buried there?
I live about 1 hour from Dixon Cemetery and have all the pictures of the tombstones. If you would like any of them or have any questions I would be happy to help if I can.
Thanks for the email
Rodger
Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: clarimer on Friday 10 December 10 15:27 GMT (UK)
Hi Rodger,

I am a descendant of Donald Smith, Andrew and Catherine's 8th child. He was my great grandfather.

I have my genealogy information on a different computer and I won't have access to it until next week. I would like to send you all that I have, going back to Andrew and Catherine's parents. You can add to it/make corrections etc.

I have two sisters who live in Toronto, plus a Smith cousin (1st cousin) who lives in Bracebridge, Ontario. About a year ago I corresponded with another descendent of Findlay Smith, Donald Fraser Smith. Do you know him? I believe he also lives close to Dixon Union Cemetery.

I've made contact with two sets of relatives in the Dunlichity area and have met them; one set related to our Andrew Smith and the other set related to our Catherine Fraser. The two sets know each other. Our Smiths lived on a farm named Lagmore, which is directly across the road from Achvaneran (our Fraser farm.) This means that Andrew and Catherine would have known each other since birth.

I corresponded with a distant uncle of ours named Willie MacQueen, who lived in the area. He was in his 80s when we first started writing. Eventually I published a book of his stories called "Tales of Dunlichity - The Stories of Willie MacQueen. I would be very happy to send you a copy. We are related to Willie on our Smith side. His gt gt grandmother was Catherine Smith, the youngest sister of our Andrew Smith.

Donald Fraser Smith visited the Dunlichity area about a year ago, and also met our Scottish cousins.

I'll try to post more next week.

Thanks,
Charlie Fraser Larimer
Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: Rodger on Friday 10 December 10 16:35 GMT (UK)
Good morning Charlie
Thanks for this informaton.
My records show that your mother would be William Fraser Smith's daughter Margaret who married Robert Larimer.
Donald Fraser Smith is my 1st cousin. His father Andrew Hill Smith (Laddie) and my father William Fraser Smith (Bill) were brothers.
Andrew's father Alexander's tombstone says he was a blacksmith at Achlaschoille. Is this part of or near Lagmore?
It would be great to compare your information with mine. I could send you the picture of Donald's Tombstone if you don't already have it but I would have to do it to your email. I don't know how to 'attach' to Roots Chat. If you like send me your information to my email address (*).
And of course I would love to have a copy of your book.
I look forward to hearing from you.
Do you know if Andrew was the only child of Alexander and Catherine's who left Scotland?
Best wishes
William Rodger Smith

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Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: shennachie on Saturday 31 May 14 10:49 BST (UK)
Willie MacQueen mentioned above was my mothers first cousin. His father was Hugh MacQueen, Farmer, Ruthven, Parish of Moy, Inverness-Shire  and his mother Marjory Smith. Hugh and Marjory married in 1877 at Daviot, Inverness-Shire. My mother was Isabella Marjory McQueen (Mc and Mac seem to be used interchangeably)  Happy to hear from anyone interested in further information regarding this branch of the family line.
Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: clarimer on Saturday 31 May 14 19:24 BST (UK)
Shennachie, do you live in the area? I will probably take a family trip back to the Daviot and Dunlichity area in 2015 or 2016.
Title: Re: Smith and Fraser @ Daviot and Dunlichty
Post by: shennachie on Saturday 31 May 14 21:02 BST (UK)
Hi Clarimer -  I live on the Isle of Skye, Scotland - the ancestral home of the MacQueens of Moy. However I have many relatives still living in the Moy/Farr area. Be happy to meet you if you visit. Kind regards.