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Title: 1879 newspaper advice - COMPLETED
Post by: Penholder on Sunday 10 January 10 10:10 GMT (UK)
From information in the Marloes burial register there is a drowning which I would like to investigate further.   I'm hoping it might have been reported in a local newspaper and wonder if anyone can suggest a title.

Thanks in advance for any suggestions or advice,

Diana
Title: Re: 1879 newspaper advice
Post by: charlotteCH on Sunday 10 January 10 10:20 GMT (UK)
Diana, I am not well versed in Welsh genealogy and how to hunt things down in Wales.  However maybe if you goo**led Pemrokeshire newspapers  and the time fram you are interested you might get some leads on the names of the local papers.

charlotte
Title: Re: 1879 newspaper advice
Post by: Penholder on Sunday 10 January 10 10:37 GMT (UK)
Hi Charlotte

I have tried looking on the internet but I have no idea if such an event would have been reported and if so which would be the likeliest paper to carry such a local story.

Regards,

Diana
Title: Re: 1879 newspaper advice
Post by: charlotteCH on Sunday 10 January 10 10:40 GMT (UK)
Local papers tend to carry local stories which a drowning would be.

Maybe , if you've had no luck looking for papers, you could email the library closest to where the drowning occured and ask them the name of the local aper back then.

charlotte
Title: Re: 1879 newspaper advice
Post by: Penholder on Sunday 10 January 10 10:42 GMT (UK)
Thanks Charlotte, good advice!

Diana
Title: Re: 1879 newspaper advice
Post by: charlotteCH on Sunday 10 January 10 10:44 GMT (UK)
Let us know how this works out :)

charlotte
Title: Re: 1879 newspaper advice
Post by: Orielbenfro on Sunday 10 January 10 11:59 GMT (UK)
I do vasts amount of newspaper research in relation to my Pembrokeshire Military Database and my talks around Pembrokeshire on headstones.
Pre Boer War, it is very hit and miss, I have some absolutely fasinating stories from the 1860's which form part of my talk and received much column inches, the gentleman concerned was not even from Pembrokeshire, but there are others just as interesting that do not get a mention.
Next problem is that newspapers at this time are editions to set area's many of which editions do not survive, people would not understand today just how much is in one district paper and gets no mention else where in the same newspaper in a different part of the county, but other stories of very limited interest appear in all edtitions.
Lastly most papers at this time contain mainly adverts, but you can find a list of visitors to a town how long they stay and where. Obits are rare and B/M/D are even rarer.
As you are are up the Smoke, then you have one up on me, since you have Collingdales, which believe it or not has more newpapers of Pembrokeshire than we have here.
Rgds
Orielbenfro
ORIEL a welsh window on a surname
Title: Re: 1879 newspaper advice
Post by: Penholder on Sunday 10 January 10 12:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Orielbenfro

Many thanks for your reply.   It's because I am thinking of going to Colindale that I was asking for advice.   Looking at their website they only seem to have the Western Mail and The Welshman that go back far enough.   I rather suspect they won't be local enough, but you never know until you try!

Regards,

Diana
Title: Re: 1879 newspaper advice
Post by: jonm on Monday 11 January 10 18:58 GMT (UK)
Hello Diana

No, there are several local Pembrokeshire newspapers for this period at Colindale.

Click on http://catalogue.bl.uk/F/?func=file&file_name=login-bl-list for their full catalogue;

Then click on "Search The Newspaper Catalogue Subset"

Then type in the major town closest to Marloes - Haverfordwest or Milford Haven as examples. The results will show you the available newspapers covering which periods of time eg Pembrokeshire Herald, Havefordwest and Milford Haven Telegraph etc.

Click on the name of the relevant newspaper and then scroll towards the bottom of the page looking for the field called "Shelfmark". This will show you what years are available and what years may be unfit for use. Most of the Pembrokeshire papers have been microfilmed.

Once you have worked out what is available, I'd recommend that you give the Newspaper Library a call to confirm what ID you'll need to take with you to get a ticket AND also to check how to order items in advance of your visit. This is especially useful as they can take up to 50 mins or so to deliver your order on the day. If you order in advance, it may be sitting there waiting for you.

Another good site for checking what's available, not just at Colindale but at other libraries as well, is the following:

http://www.newsplancymru.info/s002.php

Jon
Title: Re: 1879 newspaper advice
Post by: Penholder on Monday 11 January 10 19:16 GMT (UK)
Hi Jon

Thank you so much for that detailed reply.   I will have a look in a moment.   I will also do as you suggest and ring first as if I can order in advance that will be great help.

All best wishes,

Diana

Title: Re: 1879 newspaper advice
Post by: Penholder on Tuesday 12 January 10 21:11 GMT (UK)
I have now identified three local papers that are held at Colindale and which cover the time  I'm interested in.   I'm hoping to make the visit next week.

Diana
Title: Re: 1879 newspaper advice - COMPLETED
Post by: Penholder on Thursday 21 January 10 11:10 GMT (UK)
I went to the Newspaper Library at Colindale earlier in the week and I was successful in finding the articles I hoped would be in the papers.

Diana
Title: Re: 1879 newspaper advice - COMPLETED
Post by: Christy on Thursday 18 March 10 09:34 GMT (UK)
Hi Diana,
I am in New Zealand.  Not sure if we have been in contact before but my Great Great Grandfather was William Edward OLIVER
Title: Re: 1879 newspaper advice - COMPLETED
Post by: Penholder on Thursday 18 March 10 21:02 GMT (UK)
Hi Christy

I sent you a couple of messages last year and never got a reply  >:(

Are you in Rotorua?   If so we have been in touch through GenesReunited.

Diana