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Title: James Edward Bruton - Photographer Completed thankyou.
Post by: kerbab on Saturday 09 January 10 20:45 GMT (UK)
Good morning. Would anyone have any info on this man please. I have read he had a studio in Finch Street, ?Douglas and is buried on the Isle of Man. Many thanks.
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: Frances_mnb on Saturday 09 January 10 23:26 GMT (UK)
is http://www.manxnotebook.com/tourism/pgrphrs/pgrhrs.htm any use ?
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: kerbab on Sunday 10 January 10 02:02 GMT (UK)
Thankyou.
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: Voirrey M on Sunday 10 January 10 13:08 GMT (UK)
Go    to     www.iomfhs.im                                                 Look   for    RESEARCH    top  right   hand   of  home page

Burials    Does   not   seem  to   be   buried   here.
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: kerbab on Sunday 24 January 10 06:17 GMT (UK)
Well this is a mystery as I have him buried in the Isle of Man, death Aug 1918. Oh dear, now to find the correct information.
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: kooky on Sunday 24 January 10 09:26 GMT (UK)
Frances, thank you for that site. I have a photo taken at Tholt y will.
I now might be able to better identify people, because of the dates.
Kooky
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: kooky on Sunday 24 January 10 14:04 GMT (UK)
Looking at the photo again, there is a number on the print.
It is 2150. Does this number have any significance?
Are there still records which could pinpoint a date?
Kooky

Sorry! The photographer was Arthur Hadley of Ramsey.
The no. seems to be a negative number.
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: kerbab on Sunday 24 January 10 18:03 GMT (UK)
Sorry kooky who are you talking to me or frances?? I had no photos to view.
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: kooky on Sunday 24 January 10 18:11 GMT (UK)
I was replying to Frances, who gave me a useful website earlier in this post!
Kooky
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: Frances_mnb on Sunday 24 January 10 21:40 GMT (UK)
suggest 1921 as he seems to apply the same numbering technique to those I do have reasonably secure dates for - this period probably a charabanc - if you get to Manx Museum they have list of licence plate issue dates (try library@mnh.gov.im) but I suspect they will suggest employing an on Island researcher.

There is no other dating mechanism that I know of
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: kooky on Monday 25 January 10 10:35 GMT (UK)
Thank you Frances. 1921 seems to be about the right time.
Kooky
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: kerbab on Tuesday 02 February 10 23:43 GMT (UK)
have just been re reading the history for James and I have got written down he died on the 11 Aug 1918 aged 80. BURIED in Douglas, Isle of Man. I have no idea who gave this to me or a date. As I have gotten on in this lineage I have learnt to write dates and the resource received from.
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: Voirrey M on Wednesday 03 February 10 00:30 GMT (UK)
No   Brutons   buried  in   IOM   at  all    in    the   available  index.   You   could   check   for   a  death   cert.  for   11th

Aug.   1918 :  it  was   possible  for  a   coffin  to  be   transported  on    the    ferry  to   UK   for  burial  there.  No

cremations   in   IOM   at   that   time.
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: kerbab on Wednesday 03 February 10 00:55 GMT (UK)
Oh thankyou!! Will check into that. How odd then, wonder were I got that info from.
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: margaret elizabeth on Thursday 04 February 10 21:13 GMT (UK)
well you are correct he is buried in douglas he was aged 80, 1918 and it is volume A  - page number 1818
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: Frances_mnb on Thursday 04 February 10 21:23 GMT (UK)
As far as I know he is buried in Braddan New yard - James Edward Bruton age 80 11 Aug 1918 - should be in the index quoted above - see http://www.manxnotebook.com/gazateer/gyards/cems.htm
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: Voirrey M on Thursday 04 February 10 23:09 GMT (UK)
Is    this   not    a   Death   Cert.    ref.   as    I    have   already   explained   ????
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: Frances_mnb on Thursday 04 February 10 23:26 GMT (UK)
now I'm confused (very easily done) - to quote Voirrey "No   Brutons   buried  in   IOM   at  all    in    the   available  index.  " - must admit I didn't check this at time - I agree this is not a death cert (this should be ordered from Gen Registry and should give cause of death, informant etc assuming death was also on Island) - the entry is quoted from my own copy of Brian Lawson's burial index (I havn't noted that this is a correction which I have to quite a number of index entries so I assume as initially published)
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: margaret elizabeth on Friday 05 February 10 00:11 GMT (UK)
I dont know how far you have got with him but here is a link that may be of interest

http://www.nealbruton.com/Bruton%20Start%20Page.htm
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: kerbab on Friday 05 February 10 03:51 GMT (UK)
Hi there yes thankyou that is were I have obtained alot of info and this is were it says he is buried in the Isle Of Man. But it is not to be... sadly.
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: kerbab on Friday 05 February 10 03:57 GMT (UK)
Oh gosh i didnt see those other posts (so annoying not getting any emails saying you have a post. I know I am not the only person either I have to scroll thru all the posts I did to see who has replied.
well you are correct he is buried in douglas he was aged 80, 1918 and it is volume A  - page number 1818
As far as I know he is buried in Braddan New yard - James Edward Bruton age 80 11 Aug 1918 - should be in the index quoted above - see http://www.manxnotebook.com/gazateer/gyards/cems.htm
frnaces mmb now Im totaly confused........ so is he or isnt he?? I dont want to get to excited, silly I know but true :)
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: andycand on Friday 05 February 10 04:45 GMT (UK)
Hi Kerbab

He is definately buried in the IOM. The link below has a list of burials. The transcriber has grouped them and BRUTON has been included after BURTON & BURTONWOOD The code beside his name is BRA which I'm guessing stands for KIRK BRADDAN New Cemetery. 

http://www.iomfhs.im/lawsons/burials/bu_01.html

http://www.isle-of-man.com/manxnotebook/parishes/bn/nbnyard.htm

Andy
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: Voirrey M on Friday 05 February 10 07:22 GMT (UK)
Apologies  .  I    did    just    check   in   alphabetical  order   &   then   no   Brutons .  The   late    Brian   Lawson   did

researchers   a  great   service   &   was  working   against  time.   !   will  look   today   for   a   headstone   &
 
monumental   inscription  for   you.   Voirrey
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: Voirrey M on Friday 05 February 10 18:18 GMT (UK)
From    IOMFHS   index  of    BRADDAN    NEW   churchyard   burials   ------residence   Douglas.   and    MI's
in   Manx   Museum   Library.

Grave  2598     Section   2

In   Loving   Memory   of   / MARY/   wife  of   J. E.   BRUTON /   who   passed   away   July  28th   1893 /  aged  57

years  /  also   the  above   named /   JAMES   EDWARD   BRUTON   /  born   8th   April  1838 ,  died   9th   August 

1918  /  also    GILBERT   HORACE   eldest   son  of   the   above  /  died  16th  May  1920  aged   52  years/

...........................[ inscription   was   unreadable ]

Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: kerbab on Friday 05 February 10 19:36 GMT (UK)
Andy and Voirrey thankyou so much!!! It gives me warm fuzzies when peeps can find family across the seas (Im in NZ)....it must be a women thing but I just have to know where this wonderful man was buried. I have had a lovely letter from the Arts Musuem in South Africa about James and all the history he captured. I love photography myself so maybe it in my 'genes'.
I appreciate this information. Many thanks ♥
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer
Post by: kerbab on Friday 05 February 10 20:02 GMT (UK)
Oh I have just reread and seen the late Brian Lawson. He was a man I was in contact with right at the beginning of my searchng some 8 years ago. May he RIP.
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer Completed thankyou.
Post by: Voirrey M on Friday 05 February 10 20:19 GMT (UK)
Kerbab   It   may   be  possible   to  get   you   a  photo  of  the   headstone.  A   keen  photographer  who   lives  close

by   regularly  visits  Braddan.  Mind  you   it's  winter  here  at   present !   Voirrey
Title: Re: James Edward Bruton - Photographer Completed thankyou.
Post by: kerbab on Saturday 06 February 10 00:18 GMT (UK)
That would be fantabulous!! If there is anything I could do for you here in NZ, let me now!!