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Research in Other Countries => Australia => Topic started by: kristy_mac8 on Saturday 09 January 10 05:59 GMT (UK)
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Hi, if anyone has access to Bourke Cemetery records, or could point me in the right direction, I would appreciate look-up for the following:
James Edward STEWART b.c.1832-d.1889 Wife Hannah STEWART nee DOODY, death date unk. but could be buried with him.
His parents were John STEWART and Harriet STEWART nee WALKER. I don't know if they came out to Australia too, but I did find a death of a Harriet STEWART in Bourke in 1876.
Any info/look-ups would be greatly appreciated.
Cheers,
Kristy
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There is only one Hannah Stewart death listed on NSW BDM, from 1800-1900
7670/1874 Hannah STEWART aged 38 years died Gladesville, Sydney.
They married in 1857, in Goulburn, south of Sydney. They had a son John in 1865 in Moulamein South West of Goulburn. Possibly also an Edward 1858 and a Charles 1863 in the general area, but with mother listed as Annie.
I've just done some maths: The above Hannah was born in 1836. James and Hannah married in 1857, so the above Hannah would have been 21 at time of marriage. So, it could be her.
Do you have the death certificate for the James, you say is buried at Bourke?
Jamjar
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Hi Jamjar, thank you for your response.
Yes, the marriage you mentioned is mine. They had nine biological children, one adopted, and several were born in Victoria. Then some returned to NSW, some went to QLD, James went to Bourke, and I have no idea what happened to Hannah. But I do know that she was known as Annie, and that her name was actually Hanora, a good Irish name for a girl from Co.Limerick. There are several possibilities for her (since she was born c.1831, if you include deaths after 1900 there are a few more), I'm looking in QLD too as I thought that perhaps James died first, and she went to live with one of the kids. I was just hoping that maybe she was buried with James and that would make it easier for me. And no, I don't have his certificate. I have bought so many certificates for this part of the family I don't think I can justify buying another at this stage. But at some point I will have to.
I did think the Harriet who died in 1876 was mine, but not anymore, as I found a death for a sibling of hers, and his last name was also Stewart, since she was a Walker, this is another family. Possibly still a relative of some kind though. So, scratch the request for the Harriet look-up everyone :-)
Thanks again.
Cheers,
Kristy
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Hi Kristy,
I recently contacted the Bourke Shire Council about cemetery records. The woman I contacted was extremely helpful, she even went out to the cemetery to take a picture of the grave.
At the bottom of the below website, there are contact details:
http://www.bourke.local-e.nsw.gov.au/environment/1066/1087.html
Cheers,
Elfie :D
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Thank you for that, Elfie, I'll contact them :)
Cheers,
Kristy
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Have you tried this website austcemindex.com. A fantastic resource, the owners of the site have gone to alot of Australian cemeteries, new and old and gather information on who is buried there. Some of the time there is a photograph of the headstone.
Fiona
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Hello,
I have just started family investigations in NSW, Goulburn and Bourke, I have found the following,,,
starts with my GG Grand dad,,
John Stewart married Harriet Walker, no dates yet.
James Edward Stewart 1831-1889, married Hannah Doody 14th Sept 1857.
Edward Simon Stewart 1858-1935 married Adelaide Picket 1883 Greenock Renfrewshire Scotland.
William Charles Stewart 1884-1914 married Anne Jane McGowan 2nd Jan 1906.
William Charles Stewart (my dad) 1911-1975 married (my mum) Catherine Heron McLean, born 1914 died from an accident at home 1979, :) married 28th July 1932.
Then there is me,,,
Douglas Stewart 1946 Greenock Renfrewshire Scotland.
These records start first with John Stewart my GG Grand dad.
If our records are connected I would love to exchange whatever I have with you.
I have now lived in California for 20 years.
regards
Douglas
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hello Douglas,
Welcome to rootschat :)
Do you need any help with your research or are you just wanting to contact relatives. If you do need help then it is probably better to have a separate thread. I could ask a moderator to split this off.
If you see any probate files for your NSW ancestors http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/ or other files at NSW State Archives http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/ then I can photograph these for you.
regards,
Ros
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I do not know if this is relevant or not, but maybe of interest.
Immigrant ship Aloe arrived in NSW about 3rd August 1857.
http://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/12998823
Listed as a passenger, Ann DOODY.
Listed as the depositor for Ann DOODY is Honorah DOODY.
Honorah DOODY and James E STEWART married in the first fortnight of September 1857, so she was still DOODY at the time of the ship's arrival.
Someone may be able to find more details o Ann DOOLY.
Sue
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sparrett,
thank you, this info was very useful in confirming other entries I have, are you related to the Stewart family through this trace?
many regards
Douglas
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Ros,
Thank you so much for your prompt reply, I am only just organizing the info I have from Australia, I am searching my genealogy and interested in any relatives who may be alive maybe a separate thread might be more convenient for me as I am new to this chat forum, I would be grateful for any suggestions to make it easier for me.
I have tentative plans for next year to visit Bourke, Goulburn and Wagga Wagga also some other towns associated with my family.
I believe maybe Kristy may be related as she mentioned some info was hers.
many thanks
Douglas
hello Douglas,
Welcome to rootschat :)
Do you need any help with your research or are you just wanting to contact relatives. If you do need help then it is probably better to have a separate thread. I could ask a moderator to split this off.
If you see any probate files for your NSW ancestors http://investigator.records.nsw.gov.au/ or other files at NSW State Archives http://www.records.nsw.gov.au/ then I can photograph these for you.
regards,
Ros
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John HYAMS, possibly listed as HIJAMS, Buried 1872.
Not sure if the cited age on Findagrave as 42 is accurate.
A John HYMAS I am looking for would have been 82. A post exists regarding his transportation in 1838
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John HYAMS, possibly listed as HIJAMS, Buried 1872.
Not sure if the cited age on Findagrave as 42 is accurate.
A John HYMAS I am looking for would have been 82. A post exists regarding his transportation in 1838
There are death notices for the John HYAMS who died 1872 and buried at Bourke Cemetery in the newspapers on TROVE. You can also trace his family in Victoria.
https://trove.nla.gov.au/search/category/newspapers?keyword=%22john%20hyams%22&l-decade=187&l-year=1872&l-state=New%20South%20Wales&l-month=2
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Thank you Merlin, so the John Hyams who died In Bourke 1872 was allegedly a Mason, possibly from Victoria. I haven't found any specific recods from Victoria yet
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https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/223087886
ECCLESIASTICAL JURISDICTION.
In the goods of John Hyams, late of Fort Bourke, in the Colony of New South Wales, storekeeper, deceased, intestate.
NOTICE is hereby given, that on the expiration of fourteen days from the publication hereof, Anna Hyams, the widow of the above named deceased, intends to apply to the Honorable the Supreme Court of New South Wales, in its Ecclesiastical Jurisdiction, that administration of all and singular the goods, chattels, credits, and effects of the said John Hyams, deceased, intestate, may be granted to her.—Dated at Bathurst, this day of March, a.d. 1872.
M'INTOSH, PINNOCK, & PRICE,
Proctors for the said Anna Hyams.
https://search.records.nsw.gov.au/permalink/f/1ebnd1l/ADLIB_RNSW112576230
NRS-13660-1-[14/3470]-Series 1_9384
Title: John Hyams Date of death 10 February 1872, Granted on 11 April 1872
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NSW death: 10/2/1872 Reg: 3381/1872 John HYAMS; Nathan; Rosetta; Bourke
Vic marriage: 4546 / 1858 John Barrow HYAMSand Ann LEVY
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Hyams-193
Births: 6426/1861 Harriet HYAMS; John; Ann LEVY; C’WOOD
3686/1863 Sarah HYAMS; John Barrow; Ann LEVY; COLL
20154/1865 Esther Julia; John Barrow; Ann LEVY; BALL
Articles about the sisters:
Passing of Harriet https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/242772061
Rosa: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/133242422
Sarah: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/2132301
Vic death: 1484 / 1888 Ann HYAMS; age 59; John LEVY; Harriett LAZARUS; Fitzroy
https://www.wikitree.com/wiki/Levy-2657
PROV wills and Probate https://www.rootschat.com/links/01squ/
Death notice: https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/197164515
Death and Funeral: (lasy column) https://trove.nla.gov.au/newspaper/article/7910298
https://www.findagrave.com/memorial/200156407/ann-hyams