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England (Counties as in 1851-1901) => England => Lancashire => Topic started by: scousetoots on Friday 08 January 10 10:33 GMT (UK)
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Hi everybody and Happy New Year!
I'm currently trying to find the name of the pub my gggrandmother Mary O'Grady/Manley (nee Dunlop) ran around this period of time. A relative on the same hunt sent me this rather fascinating map:
http://www.british-history.ac.uk/mapsheet.aspx?compid=55207&sheetid=10194&ox=2131&oy=2746&zm=1&czm=1&x=376&y=265
Can anybody name the three pubs? They lived at various addresses in Kitchen Street but mostly at number 6.
Thanks in advance!
Jenni
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The pub at top right of the map: 1 o'clock, probably the King's Arms, 28 St James St, cnr of Kitchen St. Stephen McGrath was tenant in 1909 when it was owned by Peter Walker, later by Higsons. There were three licensees between 1/1/1900 and 1909.
At 2 o'clock, Royal Vaults, 1 Bridgewater St, cnr of St James's St. Manager William Pitcairn Sutherland, owners Harding & Parrington, later Walker Cain. There is a photo of this pub in "A Pub on every Corner" Vol. 1, Lpool, City Centre, by Freddy O'Connor.
Central: 37 Bridgewater St, cnr Simpson St [the map has this wrong as Sampson!] - White Cat, T.Lloyd tenant.
All this from the City of Liverpool Licensing Book for 1909, the only copy I have, but there is more information in the Liverpool Record Office.
D
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Thanks Ainslie,
A very informative reply! Looks like the King's Arms is the most likely candidate. Apparently poor Mary's husband was an alcoholoic and drank away the business and they lost the pub and her savings.
Thanks again, I'll plan a visit to the record office next time I visit Liverpool.
Best wishes,
Jenni
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Licensees per 1894 Kelly's
Kings Arms: Mrs Mary Davis
Royal Hotel (1 Bridgewater Street) : James Wallace
White Cat (37 Bridgewater Street): Mrs Elizabeth Murray
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There's also the Dolphin at the corner of Chaloner Street and Kitchen Street. Licensee in 1894 was Mrs Margaret Park.
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1911 Gore's:
Dolphin: Samuel Barlow
Kings Arms; Stephen McGrath
The Royal: William Sutherland
37 Bridgewater Street: Thomas Lloyd
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Mary was born around 1872. I'm wondering if her pub career was bit later than the 1891-1911 period. In 1901 she's at 3 Kitchen Street ( I think) with husband Thomas who is a dock labourer, and their children. Have you found her in the 1911 census?
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1914
Royal - John Barker Johnson
Dolphin - Samuel Barlow
Kings Arms - Stephen McGrath
37 Bridgewater is no longer listed as a pub
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1938
Kings Arms - Geo. Gordon
The Royal - Mrs Catherine Pugh
The Dolphin - John Crossley
also on Chaloner street and 2 doors away at number 17 is the "Queens Dock" - Js Hy. Floyd
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Just checking back on the "Queens Dock"
1914 - Marian Johnston Rawling
1911 - Wm Rawling
1894 - Mrs Bridget Carew
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Thanks for all your hard work Shaun,
You may be right about her pub career starting again later, but family rumour is that she had property and a pub before she met Thomas O'Grady and her ran up debts leaving her pretty destitute. He died in 1912 and is noted on my g grandmother's marriage certificate as a licensed victualler (deceased) Mary married again (to a Tom Manley) and I'm not sure if she resumed her career as a landlady.
Thanks again for all your help, it's much appreciated.
Best wishes,
Jenni
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Jenni
I have looked through the 1737 on-licence entries in the 1909 Licensing Book, for licensees called O'Grady or Dunlop and found only the following:
PATRICK O'Grady, manager, Crown Vaults, 71 Stanley Road.
THOMAS Dunlop, manager, 2 Cable Street.
I did not spot any Manley.
A
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Does anyone have any pictures of The Kings Arms? I have a business on Kitchen Street which was originally 10-12 which later became number 24.
There are rumours the building used to be several stories higher before it was bombed in WW2. I would love to see a picture if it did.