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Title: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: genseacher on Thursday 07 January 10 22:34 GMT (UK)
Hi
My grand dad Edward Rooney born 1905/06 born in Inner City Dublin. Need to find the names of his parents . He was born about 20 april 1905/06 died 17/12/1987 buried in Palmerstown graveyard. Was originally was North King Street, Dublin City, moved to Drimnagh. Married Maggie Gorman (maiden name) , marriage name Maggie Rooney. Edward Rooney was a labourer in Hammond Lane Foundary. Think he was baptised in St Michan's. I have all details of his sons and daughters. His sisters and brothers are as follow Dinah, Teresa, Joe, Charlie, Paddy, Freddie (Frederick), Christy.
Hopefully somebody can help
Erooney
Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: shanew147 on Thursday 07 January 10 22:38 GMT (UK)
the place to start is the 1911 census at http://census.nationalarchives.ie/

After that you could try searching the Familysearch Irish Civil Index (http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#c=1408347;p=2;t=searchable)  If you find promising matches you can order certs from the GRO (http://www.groireland.ie/apply_for_a_cert.htm) to check details of parents.



Shane
Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: genseacher on Thursday 07 January 10 22:53 GMT (UK)
I have check census but I need his parents names to go any further with any kind of search
Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 08 January 10 00:11 GMT (UK)
then your first step is to try and find his marriage details - a cert for that will show his, and his brides,  father's names & occupations.

You can search the Civil index for possible marriages matches, and then check for corresponding index matches for Maggie. If the year/quarter, registration district, volume & page are the same then youhave a possible match.

Do you have any idea when he married ?


Shane
Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: shanew147 on Friday 08 January 10 00:19 GMT (UK)
there only seems to be one Edward Rooney in Dublin City of about the right age - might be worth investigating : Rooney family - Chancery St. (http://census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1911/Dublin/Inns_Quay/Chancery_St_/34030/)   He is age 5 and living with his Widowed mother Esther, sister and two brothers. Some of the names match up with the siblings you know of ... but not all.

had a look for the marriage on the civil index - and there's a promising match in the July quarter of 1932 :

 Name: Edward Rooney
 Registration district: Dublin North
 Record type: Marriage
 quarter and year: Jul - Sep 1932
 Volume: 2 /  Page: 312

 Name: Margaret Gorman
 [same index details]



Shane
Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: genseacher on Tuesday 12 January 10 18:26 GMT (UK)
Thanks Shane for your help
Not too sure whether the 1st reply went on here.

I think the marriage record for Margaret Rooney nee Gorman and Edward Rooney could be right one.
They were married in the 1930's. It was Margaret's 2nd marriage as her first husband died. Her first husband's name was O'Connor and they had a son Michael O'Connor .

As for the record in Chancery Street I have already had a look at this and I do not think it is the right one as there are a lot of siblings missing and she is a widow. 
Regards
Erooney
Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: genseacher on Saturday 23 January 10 21:22 GMT (UK)
Hi
I have found possible matches for Edward and Margarets marriage found them on
the family search pilot as most of ye have suggested

1. Edward Rooney 1932 Jul-Sept Vol 2 Page 312
2. Margaret Gorman 1932 Jul-Sept Vol 2 Page 312
3. Margaret O'Connor 1932 Jul-Sept Vol 2 Page 312

To order marriage cert must I have year,quarter, Vol No. and Page No.
Do I need Film Digital and Image numbers?
And will marriage cert have Edwards parents on it?
Where is the best place to order this cert from in Ireland.
Regards
erooney
Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 23 January 10 21:26 GMT (UK)
..To order marriage cert must I have year,quarter, Vol No. and Page No.Do I need Film Digital and Image numbers?

not required by the GRO - these are LDS references
the registration district is also required

..And will marriage cert have Edwards parents on it?

marriage cert will have father's names and occupations for both bride and groom

..Where is the best place to order this cert from in Ireland ?...

the only place to order certs is from the GRO (see link given earlier)


Shane


Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: shanew147 on Saturday 23 January 10 21:36 GMT (UK)
I have found possible matches for Edward and Margarets marriage found them on the family search pilot as most of ye have suggested

1. Edward Rooney 1932 Jul-Sept Vol 2 Page 312
2. Margaret Gorman 1932 Jul-Sept Vol 2 Page 312
3. Margaret O'Connor 1932 Jul-Sept Vol 2 Page 312...

just noticed that you found a second Margaret marrying on the same register page... I wonder do both those index records refer to the same marriage and are based on Margarets maiden and first marriage surname ?

When you order the cert it's probably best to order using just Edwards name, seeing this is the one you are certain of.


Shane
Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: genseacher on Friday 29 January 10 21:36 GMT (UK)
thanks shane
will order from gro.
 have a few other geni queries need sorting out.
will do them al together will let u know about edward
thanks
Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: genseacher on Wednesday 25 April 12 22:02 BST (UK)
Hi

I have found the parents of Edward Rooney as follows:


John Rooney and Esther May

John Rooney and Esther Rooney nee May
Dwelling place of father on birth cert was 18 Mary's Lane Dublin


John Rooney married Esther May on 25/10/1884
more to follow

Regards
Genseacher

Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: jervis42 on Wednesday 20 November 13 21:56 GMT (UK)
Hi GenSearcher

Is this your GG grandparents family (John Rooney & Esther May) here?
http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/pages/1901/Dublin/Inns_Quay/Chancery_Street/1278852/

Jervis
Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: genseacher on Friday 22 November 13 20:51 GMT (UK)
Hi jervis
Yes they are my gg parents John Rooney and Esther Rooney nee May, at this moment I am putting together what I have.
Genseacher
Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: madpat on Saturday 23 November 13 13:20 GMT (UK)
There is a birth of John Joseph Rooney 3 May 1887 to John Rooney and Esther May, baptized 11 May at Saint Michan's. The family address is 8 Pill Lane.

14 April 1867 Esther May was baptized at Saint Michan's; she was the daughter of Christopher May and Catherine Clifford and the address was 76 PILL LANE! :D

Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: madpat on Saturday 23 November 13 13:23 GMT (UK)
29 April 1866 marriage of Christopher May of 40 Meath Street, son of Owen May and Martha to Catherine Clifford of 76 Pill Lane daughter of Charles Clifford and Rosanna. Marriage at Saint Michan's

Catherine Clifford was baptized at saint Michan's 3 February 1847 and mother's name given as Rose Hoy with sponsor Catherine Hoy

All these can be found on Irish Genealogy
Title: Re: Edward Rooney - Born 1905/6 Dublin City
Post by: madpat on Saturday 23 November 13 13:38 GMT (UK)
Catherine Clifford's siblings

Laurence born 1845, John 1852, Christopher 1859, Margaret 1862 and Charles 1864.

All born to Charles Clifford and Rose or Roseanna Hoey. The couple must have married in about 1845 perhaps a year earlier.