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Title: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Monday 04 January 10 15:40 GMT (UK)
hi, trying to help a possible cousin, Frederick Roy Moon married Phyllis Addy (she from battersly) sep 11 1954, Dewsbury,

Fred born 18 november 1914 Hellingly his father was Charles Albert Moon (general dealer of broad oak heathfield) and mother was Annie Elizabeth Morrison of crossway house hellingly, 

they lived around eastbourne and hastings , a Charles and Frederick and Rose (uncles/aunt) are also remembered from Polegate,

can anyone fit this together please, get back another generation?
jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Monday 04 January 10 15:55 GMT (UK)
Frederick doesn't use the middle name "Roy" on his marriage reg-does he use it on birth reg???

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: forester on Monday 04 January 10 16:09 GMT (UK)
Suz,

I think this is the birth on FreeBMD

Births Dec Qu. 1914
Frederick Moon
Mother: Morrison
Hailsham 2b 140

I can't see a Frederick Roy Moon birth searching 1900 on  ???

Phil
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Monday 04 January 10 16:13 GMT (UK)
that's the only one I could find "to fit"

So where does the Roy come from???

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: danuslave on Monday 04 January 10 16:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Jennifer

Do you know if Charles Albert Moon & Annie Elizabeth Morrison were actually married?  I can't find a registration for them.

Linda
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: exportman on Monday 04 January 10 16:50 GMT (UK)
The Roy is a mistake, it does not appear on either the Birth or Marriage Certificate its just simply Frederick Moon.

Interestingly his Father is stated as Charles Edward on the Birth Certificate but Edward Albert on the Marriage Certificate.

No Idea if they were married but on the Birth Certificate the Fathers address is Broad Oak, Hellingly and the Mothers Crossways House Hellingly.
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: exportman on Monday 04 January 10 16:55 GMT (UK)
Sorry another mistake, Charles Edward Moon's address is show as Broad Oak, Heathfield on the Birth Certificate
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Monday 04 January 10 18:14 GMT (UK)
Hello exportman

welcome to RootsChat

Has jennifer posted on your behalf????

I have made a few finds -I may have found Charles and Rose - but first could you give us all the information you have

from the marriage cert could you post the witnesses names, fathers names and occupations , ages of bride and groom

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: exportman on Monday 04 January 10 18:27 GMT (UK)
Yes, Jennifer kindly posted it on my behalf.

The Marriage Certificate was dated 24/9/54 and took place in Dewsbury West Yorkshire.

My Father Frederick was listed as being 39 and his Father was listed as Edward Albert Moon a General Dealer (Deceased). I could email you a copy?

I am afraid that I have very little other information but know that he had an older Brother named Charles who lived the latter part of his life in Polegate and was married to Vi (Violet?) and had one son Arthur. I undertstand that there was at least one other sibing, Rose but have no information on her.

Martyn
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Monday 04 January 10 18:55 GMT (UK)
I'll be back after I have eaten -but info I have may be good.

What were witnesses names on marriage cert?? They might be relatives

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Monday 04 January 10 18:59 GMT (UK)
hi, sorry for the errors, hi exportman! yes we are trying to work together but not doing very well, i have both the birth of frederick and marriage of frederick/phyllis addy but dont know how to attach to rootschat...

Suz- i read 'boy' on birth cert. as Roy, sorry, there is no Roy involved in this

Phil-yes, that is him

Linda, yes i have the cert.

but i dont know how to attach....

jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Monday 04 January 10 19:06 GMT (UK)
the witnesses were harry whimpenny and elsie Hurst-cant read last name...

edward albert moon (deceased)genral dealer was the father of frederick and  percy addy was her father-retired postman

any light you can shed on this Suz would be appreciated, thanks!

jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: danuslave on Monday 04 January 10 19:13 GMT (UK)
Hi Jennifer

If you have the marriage cert for Charles Albert Moon & Annie Elizabeth Morrison could you please list the details for us?  RootsChat does not allow us to post whole certificates (only bits for deciphering)

Thanks
Linda

Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: forester on Monday 04 January 10 19:47 GMT (UK)
Jennifer,

How certain are you about Annie Morrison?

Playing around with FreeBMD and the 1911 census index I have come up with a possible family in Hastings 1911:

Charles Edward Moon born 1889 Hastings
Wife is Bertha nee Cleverly (born Wrexham 1890?) and they married Dec Qu. 1908 in Hastings
One child in 1911; Charles Aaron, born 1910 (can't find the registration though unless it's Charles William A Moon, Dec Qu. 1909, Hastings)

Rose C Moon born Dec Qu. 1912, Hastings, mothers name Cleverly.

Phil
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Monday 04 January 10 20:13 GMT (UK)
Phil,
if Martyn is sure that we have his father's right certificate, then the parents are charles edward moon and annie elizabeth morrison

but i have these moon's you are mentioning in my tree, but it is not my direct line, we would have to order the charles edward moon/bertha cleverly marriage but what would that give us... we need a frederick born to this couple , right? and that would be Martyn's father but we would need to find that too,

i dont know how these names that Martyn is looking for thst you have found connects to his family though...
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: forester on Monday 04 January 10 20:23 GMT (UK)
Or maybe not........... I found what is probably another four children born between 1917 and 1926 under Cleverley .

Edward, Bessie A, Ernest G and Eileen B, all born Hastings.

Jennifer,

You posted while I was typing.
The problem I'm having is finding the Moon/Morrison marriage and Annie's birth.

Phil
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Monday 04 January 10 20:36 GMT (UK)
hey Phil, you are right, we need to find that charles/annie marriage cert. and her birth or i guess his birth?charles....or  am i getting confused...i may be away for the rest of the night, fyi, everyone, will check in the morning,
j
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Monday 04 January 10 23:19 GMT (UK)
hi, trying to help a possible cousin, Frederick Roy Moon married Phyllis Addy (she from battersly) sep 11 1954, Dewsbury,

Fred born 18 november 1914 Hellingly his father was Charles Albert Moon (general dealer of broad oak heathfield) and mother was Annie Elizabeth Morrison of crossway house hellingly, 

they lived around eastbourne and hastings , a Charles and Frederick and Rose (uncles/aunt) are also remembered from Polegate,

can anyone fit this together please, get back another generation?
jennifer


As you are possibly aware we are not allowed to post 1911 census information -copyright issues-but the index can be searched free



there is a Ruby moon age 12
Rose moon age 7 -b Polegate
Charles Moon age 3

they are in an institution -not a household

then in 1901 there is
Eastbourne
Charles moon Head m 50 general dealer b Cheddingley Sussex
Annie E wife 31 Bayswater London
Ruth E daughter 2
(I wondered if Ruth E should have been Ruby???)
RG13 883 93 26

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Monday 04 January 10 23:30 GMT (UK)
1891
3 Eaton Terr Eastbourne
William Knight head M 53 Carman Leaford Sussex
Barbara wife 53 Laundress Newhaven
Florence L neivce 18 Laundrymaid Eastbourne
ANNIE E MORRISON Boarder U 20 Ironer Bayswater london

doesn't this Annie E seem to be the same person Annie E Moon from 1901???

RG12 775 4 10

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Monday 04 January 10 23:41 GMT (UK)
and this  looks like her -father named frederick

1871
16 Fleet Road Hampstead St John
Frederick Morrison Head M 36 Shopman Evesham Worcester
Elizabeth wife 30 Bayswater mddsx
ANNE E daughter 2 Bayswater Mddsx

RG10 189 35 25

so was your Frederick named after his grandfather???

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Monday 04 January 10 23:55 GMT (UK)
Yes, Jennifer kindly posted it on my behalf.



I am afraid that I have very little other information but know that he had an older Brother named Charles who lived the latter part of his life in Polegate and was married to Vi (Violet?) and had one son Arthur. I undertstand that there was at least one other sibing, Rose but have no information on her.

Martyn

This is possibly the marriage reg of frederick's brother Charles

Marriage reg freeBMD
Dec qtr 1928
Eastbourne
Charles E Moon
Violet H Norman

and this is possibly his death reg

Charles Edward moon
born 19 Apr 1907
Death reg Dec qtr 1970
Eastbourne
5b 767

this fits with Charles moon age 3 in 1911

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Tuesday 05 January 10 04:10 GMT (UK)
i believe Suz has located the family so we cant find charles/annie marriage or charles birth so would it help if Martin ordered charles marriage to violet norman to see if there is more info. on there? and also charles 1907 birth?

so 1901 charles/annie are together and i think that is the same annie as 1891, then 1911 the kids are in an institution-where is charles/annie? and our original frederick moon is born 1914 which we have the certificate for so what happened from 1902 to 1911 to 1914...

do i have this right?

we are back 1 more generation side (probably once certificates are ordered) for the morrison side but not on the moon side

thanks so much for all of that work Suz, much appreciated

jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: exportman on Tuesday 05 January 10 06:38 GMT (UK)
Thanks to everyone. this is great information.

I am away for a couple of days but will order the certificates when I return.

Martyn
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 05 January 10 08:46 GMT (UK)
I have the Charles from 1901 in earlier census with parents -age differs a little -but that is not unusual


Maybe Charles and Annie Elizabeth never married


Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 05 January 10 08:50 GMT (UK)
this looks like Charles birth reg (Frederick's brother)

Charles Edward Moon
Jun qtr 1907
Eastbourne
2b 74

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 05 January 10 09:43 GMT (UK)
there is this

1861
Tower Stt Eastbourne
William Moon Head M 40 Bricklayers lab Heathfield Sussex
Mary wife 36 Little Horsted Sussex
CHARLES son 7 Chiddingley Sussex
Richard son 4 Chiddingly
Philadelphia C daughter 6mths
RG9 567 28 19

there is a birth reg FreeBMD
Charles Edward Moon
Sept qtr 1853
Hailsham
2b 59

1871 Charles not at home

Eastbourne
William Moon Head M 46 Costermonger Heathfield Sussex
Mary wife 38 Little Horsted
Richard son 13 Chiddingly
Anne daughter 3 Eastbourne
Eliza daughter 3 Eastbourne
Albert son 5 mth Eastbourne
RG10 1040 80 30

Looks like Philadelphia died

Death reg
Philadelphia Catherine Moon
Dec qtr 1863
Eastbourne
2b 38

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: forester on Tuesday 05 January 10 20:26 GMT (UK)
Well done Suz.

I have just done another 1911 index search, using Charles Moon and looking for other members in Eastbourne and get the following, all in institutions:

Charles b. 1847
Elizabeth b. 1873
Ruby b. 1899
Rose b. 1904
Winifred b. 1907

Unfortunately, it's not possible to confirm who is family.

Going back to your earlier post Suz, the only Ruth I can find of about the right age, is a Ruth Emily, born Sept Qu. 1898, East Grinstead. Ruby is drawing a blank.

Phil

Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 05 January 10 22:43 GMT (UK)
Yes, I found birth reg for Ruth Emily and it seems she is the one with Charles and Annie Elizabeth in 1901

I suppose Ruby could be her in 1911 - maybe she was known as RuthE and the institution heard it as Ruby??

I suppose Rose could also be a middle name

It's also worth bearing in Mmind that often Moon is transcribed Noon (and vica versa)- at least that is what I have found with some of my Derbyshire Noons

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 05 January 10 22:50 GMT (UK)
I'm quite excited - I think Winifred is the daughter of Charles and Annie Elizabeth!!!

Back shortly

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 05 January 10 22:54 GMT (UK)
Birth reg FreeBMD
Winifred Moon
Dec qtr 1910
Eastbourne
2b 67

1911 she is age 4 mths -not years!!!

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Tuesday 05 January 10 22:59 GMT (UK)
Winifred is in an institution in Eastbourne with Charles Moon age 64 and elizabeth age  38

they are born in places which correspond with 1901 census

Can't post any more details or I will be in trouble

it would be worth viewing the 1911 census for the extra information it would give


Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Thursday 07 January 10 23:01 GMT (UK)
gee, i dont know why i didnt get these recent posts...will try to help Martyn, but Suz, while i am trying to digest this info., other than trying to get the 1911 c. info. for Martyn (in process of doing), which certificates would you order first please?
jennifer moon in canada
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Thursday 07 January 10 23:40 GMT (UK)
I will PM you

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Friday 08 January 10 00:11 GMT (UK)
ok, thanks!
jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: exportman on Saturday 09 January 10 18:07 GMT (UK)
I know have a copy of my Father's Birth Cert.

Frederick Moon b 18/11/1914 Crossways House, Hellingly. Father Charles Edward, General Dealer, Broad Oak, Heathfield. Mother Annie Elizabeth Morrison Crossways House, Hellingly.

Any information on Crossways House would be much appreciated.

Martyn
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: exportman on Sunday 10 January 10 13:58 GMT (UK)
Can anyone advise on how to get hold of Military records?

I have very little information other than my Father was a POW in the Far East during the Second World War.

Can anyone point me in the right direction?

Martyn
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: forester on Sunday 10 January 10 14:29 GMT (UK)
Hello Martyn,

This topic will explain how to apply for post-1921 service records:

http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,154824.0.html  (http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,154824.0.html)

Apparently there is a long wait at the moment.

By the way, I Googled "Crossways House, Hellingly" and although there isn't a lot of info about, I had the feeling that it may have been some sort of institution around the time that your father was born, unless his mother was on the staff.

Phil
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Sunday 10 January 10 14:44 GMT (UK)
Hi Martyn,

All I have managed to find out about Crossways House so far is from someone else's research where a 19 yr old girl from Ireland travelled there to have her baby - and put a father's name on cert -as if she was married -and she wasn't!!!

I'll keep looking.

Re Military records - Phil has given you a good link - many of the surviving WW1 records are on An*****y but not WW2 -yet.

The Armed forces boards on here have some very knowledgable RootsChatters willing to help

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Sunday 10 January 10 22:50 GMT (UK)
does anyone know why the infirmity column on the 1911 c. returns that we are looking at here have been whited out/blocked out? please, i cant see them on the copies i have downloaded from the site, thanks,
jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Sunday 10 January 10 23:07 GMT (UK)
i googled "crossways house 1911 census uk and the second hit (scroll down), it states that a 'Cossticks' family member had her baby there 1914, i dont know if this is any help...
jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: forester on Sunday 10 January 10 23:13 GMT (UK)
Hello Jennifer,

According to the National Archives, this data remains closed until 2012.

Phil
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Sunday 10 January 10 23:30 GMT (UK)
thanks Phil for continuing to help us, yes, i recall now that some info. will not be released til later, thanks for that,
j
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Saturday 23 January 10 23:01 GMT (UK)
hi, i received this from Martyn, he is on the road and i am going to retype what he has sent me, assuming he has received some certificates...i will try my best to answer questions, he may access on the road, not sure

Charles Edward moon - Martyn's grandfather b. 20/7/1853 chiddingly Sussex, his father William moon and his mother Mary moon (formerly Taegu?)

Winifred moon b. 28/11/1910 123 church st., eastbound, her father Charles Edward moon general dealer and mother Annie Elizabeth moon (formerly Morrison)

Charles Edward moon b. 19/4/1907 21 Dennis rd. eastbound, his father Charles Edward moon and mother Annie Elizabeth moon (formerly Morrison)

Frederick moon (Martyn's father) b. 18/11/1914 crossways house, hellingly, father Charles Edward moon, broad oak, heathfield and mother Annie Elizabeth moon (formerly Morrison) crossways house, hellingly

Martyn says it is starting to fit in to the little he knows suspecting that his father Frederick was looked after by relatives or foster parents in paignton, Devon

we know about Frederick's birth info. before, along with his marriage but the death certificate around 1978 could be ordered,

Frederick's grandfather William moon marriage to Mary Taegu can be ordered once registration is found c. 1830 along with his death, and look for census info. along with Mary's birth and death ( i did not have that William and Mary on my moon tree) so we are back 1 more generation

we have tried to find Frederick's father Charles Edward moon to Annie Elizabeth marriage to no avail yet, need to find their deaths also

and it is hard to find when women like Winnifred )Frederick's sister) marriage due to being female, it looks like these moon's moved within eastbound during those 3 years when Charles and Winnifred were born, so maybe the marriage of Fred's brother Charles to violet h norman will be worth ordering now, along with his death and the birth of Ruth and rose

i need to have supper then do 1 thing and i will be back to try to find some census and registration info.

Jennifer moon
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Sunday 24 January 10 04:06 GMT (UK)
i looked for a marriage for William moon/Mary teague ( i have the spelling wrong twice as i look on the post before this 1)  from 1850 to 1854 with no luck

i found an 1861 c. entry that may be them with a charles and another child william born in heathfield and mary in little horsted in eastbourne, will post more info. in the morning

i did not look for a marriage for Winnifred yet, looked for census info. on Charles and vi norman but could not locate

will try again tomorrow

Jennifer

Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: omega 1 on Sunday 24 January 10 07:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Jennifer :)

Found the marriage for you.

William Moon

Mary Teague

Mar Q 1846 , 7 459 Hailsham.

Kind Regards

Omega
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Sunday 24 January 10 15:54 GMT (UK)
thanks Omega, i will get Martyn to order the certificate to get back another generation (and i haven't forgotten about you), i have been trying to help Martyn for a few years, Suz finally got us on the right track for his family, he is pretty excited and is more than willing to order what certificates are necessary to unravel his moon puzzle,

do you think this is William/Mary in this 1861c. please?
RG09 piece 567 folio28 page 19 23 Tower Street Eastbourne, William head married age 40 b. 1821 bricklayers labourer b. heathfield Sussex with

wife Mary wife married female age 36 b. 1825 1825 b. little horested Sussex

with son Charles age 7 b. 1854 scholar b. chiddingly, Sussex ( this fits with our Charles) then

Richard son age 4 b. 1857 scholar b. chiddingly, Sussex and

Philadelphia c their daughter age 6 month b. 1861 chiddingly

Jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: omega 1 on Sunday 24 January 10 16:23 GMT (UK)
Hi Jennifer  :)

I`ve had a nose around.

Found Mary on the 1841 with Mum,Dad & siblings,living Rectory Cottage,Little Horsted

HO107  1118 2/8  11.

I think the 1861 could be right ,will look at the 1851 & get back to you.

There sure are loads of William Moon`s no wonder you get confused.

Talk Soon

Omega.

PS,Is Martyn part of our Moon Family Tree?

 


Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: omega 1 on Sunday 24 January 10 16:36 GMT (UK)
Hi Again

On the 1851 living Clocksmiths Cottage,Chiddingly

William born Heathfield,Mary Little Horsted & Children Mary Jane & William born Chiddingley.

I notice on the 1861 the daughter is named Philadelphia.This was Mary`s Mums Name !!!!!!!!!!!! If i`ve got it right.

Omega

Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Monday 25 January 10 03:09 GMT (UK)
yes, we are thinking Martyn is part of our Moon's, he is ordering the moon/teague marriage certificate so we will be back another generation,

thanks for finding it, do you have that William moon and Mary teagues on your tree, i don't have it, i don't know what line of moon's this is yet,

i am going to try to look at the censuses more also, i agree with you that the censuses that you have above is Martyn's family

Jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: omega 1 on Monday 25 January 10 09:31 GMT (UK)
Hi Jennifer

Apart from your line i hav`nt researched any  other branches yet.

I looked on SFHG database for William,born Heathfield but his not there.
There are SSSOOOOOOOOO many  everywhere,i think we need to wait for the marriage cert to get Dads name.

In the mean time i will keep looking.

Omega
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Tuesday 26 January 10 03:34 GMT (UK)
i was trying to find william (married to mary ann teagues) in 1841 c., and the only 1 which may fit is  William who is 20 born 1821 helping on the fraizeland farm, guestling, hastings HO107 1106 10/10 13, he may be a son or a relative

and if this james on this census is his brother then i think the father william on this census is the william who married sarah fox , but we have to wait til the certificate comes in..

jennifer

Omega, do you have sarah fox in your tree? please
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: omega 1 on Tuesday 26 January 10 12:21 GMT (UK)
Hi Jennifer.

I looked at the 1841 Census.

If the William had married a Sarah Fox,looking on the SMI  extra info,
they married in Brighton

24th Sept 1793.
William bach 21+ Yeo from Rotherfield
Sarah 20+ WCOF from Buxted.

We really need info from marriage cert to be sure.

Sarah is`nt in my tree.I hav`nt as yet found any Moons from Rotherfield only Mayfield.

Sorry i hav`nt been any help

Omega



Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Wednesday 27 January 10 00:54 GMT (UK)
Omega, you are helping me, just reading what i write you can look at it and look in different areas such as the smi, the sarah fox marriage is 1 generation out, ha! was gettiny sleepy, thanks so much! martyn has ordered the certificate, we will have to wait,
jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Wednesday 27 January 10 03:09 GMT (UK)
i cant find Charles 1854 in the 1881 c. or 1891c., i found Annie e, his wife in 1891 c. but not in 1881 c. (or her parents) , can anyone out there find them please,

and their children are Ruth born 1899 died?, married?, rose born polegate 1904 but cant locate BMD, Charles born 1907 m. 1928 and died 1970 so we have his info,,  Winifred b 1910 but like Ruth we don't have her marriage or death and Fred which we all have his BMD, 1914 1954 and 1979, can anyone find any of this info. please?

Jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: omega 1 on Saturday 30 January 10 19:07 GMT (UK)
Hi Jennifer

Charles is make my head spin.

Have i got the right Charles & Annie on the 1901 living in Eastbourne with 2 year old Ruth born East Grinstead ?

It give Charles 50 from Chiddingly & Annie 31 Bayswater.

Omega



Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Saturday 30 January 10 21:16 GMT (UK)
Hi omega - having looked at this topic before -I can say yes you have correct Charles and Annie
daughter Ruth's middle namewas Emily

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Saturday 30 January 10 23:06 GMT (UK)
thank you Suz, yes, Omega, that is correct, i still haven't found the above i have been looking at on my last post, it was hard for me to too, to keep the Charles straight also,
Jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: omega 1 on Sunday 31 January 10 13:41 GMT (UK)
Hi Jennifer & Suz

This Charles is really elusive.
I cant find him on the 1871 or 1891 but possibly on the 1881.

Now this is only an idea.
Given the age differance between Charles & Annie & the fact a marriage cant be found,its possible he was already married.
On the 1881

Charles Moon,aged 25,CONVICT,married,Carpenter from Eastbourne.
Address,Wormwood Scrubs Prison,Hammersmith :o

Omega
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: suzard on Sunday 31 January 10 18:16 GMT (UK)
I came across that and thought it was the strongest contender

Suz
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Sunday 31 January 10 20:24 GMT (UK)
I was thinking the same thing, Suz, did you receive my pm please,
Jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: omega 1 on Sunday 31 January 10 20:41 GMT (UK)
Are we all unanimous regarding Charles on the 1881 :)

Omega
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Monday 01 February 10 00:59 GMT (UK)
i would say yes but i cant talk for Omega and it will take Martyn awhile to get up to speed...

i haven't heard from him yet this weekend, he still may be on the road, he was to email me the details of the William/Teague marriage but i haven't got them yet,

not that this would help us with your question, but i would say yes, why? please
Jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: exportman on Wednesday 03 February 10 17:49 GMT (UK)
Sorry all I have been doing a lot of travelling these past few weeks and it shows no sign of letting up.

I have received the Marriage Cert for William Moon (22) & Mary Teague (17), 22nd March 1846 in Chiddingly. William's father Edward Moon, Mary's William Teague.

Let me know if there is anything else needed.
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Wednesday 03 February 10 18:54 GMT (UK)
i will post more info. that Martyn has sent me,

same as above with this added, William of chiddingly is a labourer and his dad Edward was also,

Mary of chiddingly, her father was a labourer 

and William/Mary married in the parish church of chiddingly

the witnesses look like George parsons and Sarah teague per Martyn , he says it is hard to read, i have asked him to scan it to me when he has time,

should he order the Charles/violet norman marriage now? or 1 of the births of Charles's children,

but i think we should follow Charles/ violet norman marriage and their children so maybe Martyn may find some living relatives,

i think i have this all right.. Martyn, send us items as you are able to please,  we will try to search for this Edward moon and wife and william teague and wife


Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Friday 05 February 10 14:05 GMT (UK)
Hi Moon Researchers

Today (Friday 5th Feb) the Hastings Observer carries a letter as follows:

Information Appeal for Families History

I wonder if it is possible for you to put something in the local paper for anyone who has any information on the MOON family and the HILDER family, in particular the info I have at the moment is: Margaret B Moon (nee Mackay) born January 7th 1944.
I am trying to trace her parents Violet Mackay (nee Hilder) born about 1900.
As for the Moon family I have Brian George Moon born 6th May 1940, son of George James Thomas Moon born about 1900 , married Elizabeth Gooder/Goodger in 1934 in Hastings.  If anyone can help it would be appreciated - please could anyone reply by e-mail to .....


As the people mentioned could still be alive - if anyone with connections to the above would like to send me a private message, then I will send you the e-mail address of the writer

Chris in 1066
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Friday 05 February 10 19:07 GMT (UK)
hi Chris and everyone,

i don't see any of those names in my tree, sorry and

i don't have an Edward moon and wife (or William teague and wife) in my tree either, so

back to the census i go...

jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Friday 05 February 10 19:58 GMT (UK)
from the 18 41 c. william and philedelphia teague HO107 1118 2/8 11 uckfield isfield little horsted rectory cottage, he as an ag lab born 1799 and her 40 born 1801 with children including our mary all born sussex

and 1841 c. H0107 1106 10/10 13 hastings, ore, guestling, fraizeland farm, there is a william moon with i am assuming wife Rebecca - maybe 2nd wife, with family and our william 1821 all born sussex but i cant find them on the 1851 c.

that is it for now, hope i am getting this all right...apologies to Omega who i thought was Suz when she asked if we were unanimous on charles on the 1881 c. - i say yes,

jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Friday 05 February 10 21:05 GMT (UK)
yes, we knew about that William and Rebecca in 1841 c. who had our William c. 1821 we think, so maybe this is William's uncle because we are looking for an Edward Moon, father of our William Moon, and his wife and on 1841c. there is HO 107 1098 4/8 9 steying union, steyning, high street, don't know if this is William's father... what do you think?
Jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Friday 05 February 10 21:23 GMT (UK)
if anyone is willing, i have more info. from Martyn, he says how can we find more recent people now...

it is harder to find anything on Edward, father of William 1821. due to not being able to order certificates, but any suggestions are welcome,

Martyn says he will order Charles and Violet Norman's marriage now, what else should he order?

he said Charles/ Violet had a son Arthur and he was in the army, he may have been married to a Daphne? with a daughter Diane? but he isn't sure, (hard to get this due to only having 1911 c., have to try to find it on the BMD)

and he wonders why his dad's sisters can not be traced...

so more info. to go through eventually, thanks Martyn, we will keep looking for you if we can, keep the information coming please, it will just take time, but they are out there,

Jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Saturday 06 February 10 19:21 GMT (UK)
Martyn has received his father's death certificate and nothing new to help us,

another thing on Arthur is he was in the Army and afterwards he taught for the army at Catterick Garrison in North Yorkshire until around 1979 (try to find an arthur moon married c. 1948 but it is quarter by quarter year by year also)

when searching you would have to look for Winnifred, Rose and Ruth E.  quarter by quarter year by year for their marriage, 1911 onwards so it would be a long slog to find them

on Charles/Vi marriage it may give us some clues depending on the witnesses and if it were 1 of his sisters with a different name would help with whom they married, it is a long shot,

Jennifer



Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: gary_blake on Friday 19 April 13 16:57 BST (UK)
I have info on Margaret moon (nee Mackey and brian George moon

Hi Moon Researchers

Today (Friday 5th Feb) the Hastings Observer carries a letter as follows:

Information Appeal for Families History

I wonder if it is possible for you to put something in the local paper for anyone who has any information on the MOON family and the HILDER family, in particular the info I have at the moment is: Margaret B Moon (nee Mackay) born January 7th 1944.
I am trying to trace her parents Violet Mackay (nee Hilder) born about 1900.
As for the Moon family I have Brian George Moon born 6th May 1940, son of George James Thomas Moon born about 1900 , married Elizabeth Gooder/Goodger in 1934 in Hastings.  If anyone can help it would be appreciated - please could anyone reply by e-mail to .....


As the people mentioned could still be alive - if anyone with connections to the above would like to send me a private message, then I will send you the e-mail address of the writer

Chris in 1066
Martyn has received his father's death certificate and nothing new to help us,

another thing on Arthur is he was in the Army and afterwards he taught for the army at Catterick Garrison in North Yorkshire until around 1979 (try to find an arthur moon married c. 1948 but it is quarter by quarter year by year also)

when searching you would have to look for Winnifred, Rose and Ruth E.  quarter by quarter year by year for their marriage, 1911 onwards so it would be a long slog to find them

on Charles/Vi marriage it may give us some clues depending on the witnesses and if it were 1 of his sisters with a different name would help with whom they married, it is a long shot,

Jennifer




Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: Chris in 1066Land on Friday 19 April 13 17:01 BST (UK)
hi gary

Welcome to Rootschat and especially the Sussex Boards - one of the best.

Thanks for the messages received earlier today - I did send the info on to "Moon" by private message and I notice that at the moment she is now on line.
so will leave you two to update your research with each other.

Chris in 1066
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: gary_blake on Friday 19 April 13 17:16 BST (UK)
hi I have information on Margaret Mackay and Brian George moon
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Friday 19 April 13 21:56 BST (UK)
i am in the process of chatting with Chris, Gary, Martyn,

does anyone know  the contact info. for the hastings observer feb 5 2010 ad query about the Moon's please? see pg. 7 on this topic, so i can contact them, i dont know how to find back issues on the internet to check for myself, i would like to contact them in regards to Gary,

thanks!

jennifer
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: jmoon on Sunday 05 May 13 14:42 BST (UK)
Hi, Im looking for moons of yorkshire 1901, do you have anything?
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: gary_blake on Sunday 05 May 13 15:53 BST (UK)
if you want to give me names what you need help with I maybe able to help search
Title: Re: Moon family help to find the rest of the family
Post by: moon on Sunday 05 May 13 17:57 BST (UK)
hi Gary, I see you on again, do you have hannah smith and robert moon as a couple on your tree please?, (i dont have any yorkshire moon's, sorry) and i havent received the contact info. yet from hastings observer so that i can contact the people with the info. they are looking for,
jennifer