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Hi, I am currently searching US records for details of six ancestors who all emigrated from Poland to the USA between 1900 and 1910. They settled around New York, New Jersey and the furthest going to Niagara Falls and Yatesboro, PA.
Checking census records I can usually find details of the families on the 1930 census, but inevitably I fail to find any record of them on the 1920 census. Is this an anomally or do other people find this as well?
Richard.
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I too am having trouble finding ancestors in the 1920 Census...I'm not certain if it's an anomally or not, but this is the Census I have the most trouble with.
Would you care to post the details of the people you are looking for? Maybe a fresh pair of eyes can help.
Mer
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Hi Mer,
Thanks for your interest. I haven’t been able to find any 1920 census records for the following ancestors.
Piotr Szalajko, my great grandfather. Born 1863 Bircza, Poland. Arrived in US 1902 (S.S. Breslau into Baltimore) to visit brother-in-law W. Feed (W. Feit) at Yatesboro PA. No other US records. Died in Bircza, Poland 1928, possibly returned to Poland by 1913.
Stefania Szalajko, Piotr’s daughter, my great aunt. Born 1893 Bircza, Poland. Arrived in US 1910 (S.S. President Grant into New York ) to visit brother Michel Szalajko (crossed out - replaced with friend Maria Techow?, 117 Broad St. NY). Stefania married John Kruk in 1912 (approx) and became Stella Kruk. 1920 census for New York shows John, Stella and Anna Kruk (date of arrival in US for Stefania/Stella is shown as 1913 – not the right Kruk family). 1930 census shows John and Stella kruk with children Helen, William and Alexander at 380 Chesnut, Newark, NJ. (This is the address family in Poland wrote to). John died 1937 (approx), I cannot find any trace of Stella after 1943 (she died in the US about 1960). No trace of Michel Szalajko.
Kazimiera Szalajko, Stefania’s sister, born 1895 Bircza, Poland. Arrived in US 1913 (S.S. Kronprinzessin Cecile into New York), to visit her sister Stella Kruk, Hermann Street, 50, New York? No further trace of her. She did not return to Poland according to family, maybe married?
Fan Gawerecki, Piotr’s nephew, my grandmother’s cousin, born 1877 Bogusgowka, nr. Bircza, Poland. Arrived in US 1902 (S.S. Hanover into Baltimore), to visit his uncle Piotr Szalajko at Yatesboro PA. No further record of him.
Julian Winiarski, born 1878, Bircza, Poland, Piotr’s brother-in-law. Arrived in US 1904 (S.S. Breslau into Baltimore) to visit his brother-in-law Piotr Szalajko at Yatesboro PA. He died 1929 at Niagara Falls City (hardware Merchant, Director of local Bank). 1930 census shows his widow Caroline Winiarski and children at 1220 East Falls St. Niagara Falls- the address of the Hardware business. Caroline was born 1878, Poland, married Julian in 1900, in Poland, and arrived in US, as Karolina Winiarska, 1905 (S.S. Main into New York) with son Waclaw - later called Walter. I cannot find any record of Julian and Caroline/Karolina in the 1920 census. I assume that Karolina was Piotr’s sister and to confirm this I need to find her maiden name. My only lead is that her daughter Jennie Winiarski was born Jan 4th 1914, Niagara Falls, Cert #4487. Possibly this might list her mother’s maiden name.
Any help in connecting and tracing these family members would be very much appreciated.
Regards,
Richard.
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just a quick question
the census (1930) shows how many years they had been in the US, i wondered if they channel hopped at anytime or does it show they had been there since their arrival 1900-1910?
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have you found Julian Winiarski, in 1930 ?
i see his World War I Draft Registration Cards, 1917-1918 on the web so he may well have served in the war and not returned ?
his birth date is given as 8 May 1878 and he was listed as living at 1220 East Falls Street, Niagra falls NY he was 40 years old and a white naturlised citizen, and he was a hardware merchant (i expect you have these details already) and i assume his next of kin also atthe same address Caroline is his wife. he was of small build but of medium height and had blue eyes and white hair.
Sept 12 1918
also as h was at the Niagra falls he could have nipped over the border into Canada
maybe it might be best to look for Caroline to try to combat the spelling mistranscriptions
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Toni, there is a previous thread on the Winiarski family here: http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php/topic,426401.msg2913611.html#msg2913611 Julian died in 1929, and the rest of the family is on the 1930 Census.
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thnaks Shelley :)
i have to sign off for today so hopefulyl i will pick this up tomorrow if it hasnt been completed by then ;)
we Fan i did see there was a birth of a Joseph F Gawerecki in the 1920's in Nebraska i wonder if he is related in which case it would suggest that Fan was over that way in the 1920's however i have not done any research on this at all and have to rush off. (could just be a red herring)
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Hi Toni,
Thanks for the input. As far as I am aware, all the relatives made just one trip to the USA, and with the exception of Piotr Szalajko, who returned to Poland (around about 1913, they all stayed in the USA.
With regard to Julian Winiarski, the thread that Shellyesq has linked gave me all the details about Julian Winiarski but still very little about Caroline/Karolina especially her early years in the USA.
I am interested in any details from early census returns as I get the impression that many of these immigrants, from Poland, would travel to family members who had arrived before them and possibly live with them in the early years.
I will take a look at the Joseph F. Gawerecki you discovered.
Regards,
Richard.
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Hi Toni,
With regard to your mention of Joseph F. Gawerecki, born in Nebraska in the 1920s, I have found an obituary for Joseph F. Gawerecki in the Omaha Herald, Nebraska, Mar 7 2009. This gives his date of birth about 1923. His parents were Henry and Mary Gawerecki. Henry could just about be Fan Gawerecki's son but it would be pushing it.
Looking again at the name Fan Gawerecki, I wonder if Fan is short for Fank or Frank, both names that appear for other Polish immigrants.
Richard.
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at least the obit gave his parents names thats good.
:)
but doesnt help you, i shall have another furrage
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re Kazimiera Szalajko,
i have found 3 possible matches on the 1920 US census each would need to be followed up to rule them out / in
this is if she married betwixt 1913 & 1920
1920 - Abington, Plymouth, Massachusetts
Kazimiera Gardulewicz
Spouse: John
Birth: abt 1895 - Russia;Poland
Arrival: 1913
they have a son Anthony b. Massachusetts
Kazimiera parents were born Russia / Poland like her
she is literate
John also came from Russia / Poland in 1913
John is working in a shoe factory and Kazimiera a weaver
1920 - Schenectady Ward 5, Schenectady, New York
Kazimiera Kwapinski
Spouse: Stanly
Birth: abt 1895 - Poland
Arrival: 1912
2 children (both boys) Stephen 7 and Kazimiera 5 b. NY
she Cannot read or write
Stanley also came to the US in 1912
1920 - Worcester Ward 5, Worcester, Massachusetts
Kazimiera Galgowski
Spouse: William
Birth: abt 1896 - Poland
Arrival: 1912
William is a wine drawer in a wine mill
she cannot read or wirte
William came to the US in 1913 but Kazimiera in 1912
i would suggest the top one looks more favourable
but like i say need to find marriages etc. or Anthonys birth cert.
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Hi Richard
Have you tried outgoing passenger lists for Piotr? I think the US started keeping passenger lists leaving the US after 1908. If he did return to Poland after 1908 you may be in with a chance of finding his passenger list.
Whats the name of the son or daughter of Piotr that you are descended from?
As you hinted at it is common for immigrants to arrive after other relatives had immigrated earlier.
My 3xgreat grandfather lost his wife in 1885. He emigrated to America in September 1886 with his youngest daughter. He had a brother in America and his eldest daughter was living there. His brother emigrated in about 1874 and his daughter in about 1881. He is on the 1900 US census living with his eldest daughter in Pennsylvania. he was 72 by then and he says he had been in the US for 13 years. His youngest wed in 1889 to Thomas Prosser and on the 1900 US census she said she had been in the US for 13 years. His son George born 1856 remained in England alongside another daughter and son. So when he emigrated he had 2 children in the US and 3 in England. One I have not yet found.
Ben
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Hi Toni,
Thanks for those suggestions for Kazimiera. I'll take a close look at them and let you know how I get on.
Richard.
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Hi Ben, thanks for the suggestion.
Piotr Szalajko had six children:
Jozefa b.1890 - My Grandmother.
Stefania (Stella) b. 1893(5).
Kazimiera b. 1895.
Eleonora.
Tadeuz.
Bronislawa.
According to Stanislawa's arrival manifest there may be a seventh child Michel.
My details are on Ancestry on the Wasiewicz Family Tree if you are subscribed.
Regards,
Richard.
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could their names have been anglicaised?
were they naturalised?
do they appear with the Polish surnames in 1930
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I take it Jozefa stayed in America? I wonder why her father would return to Poland?
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Hi Toni,
Yes the names could have been anglicised. Certainly this happened in the case of Stefania Szalajko who became Stella Kruk after her marriage to John Kruk in 1912. Whether she was ever recorded as Stella Szalajko prior to her marriage I do not know. She is on the 1930 census as Stella Kruk.
The only other one would have been Julian Winiarski, but he died in 1929.
Richard.
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Hi Ben, sorry I didn't make it clear.
Records and family lore indicate that Piotr Szalajko travelled to America in 1902 and then returned to his family in Bircza, Poland.
Of his children, Stefania travelled to America and stayed there as Stella Kruk.
Kazimiera travelled to America in 1913 and no more known about her.
Jozefa, Eleonara and Bronislawa all died in Bircza, Poland. They may have travelled to America, but then certainly returned to Poland.
Tadeuz, no information about him other than he was a sibling. Might have travelled to America or stayed in Poland.
Michel - only record of him is the crossed out mention on Stefania's arrival manifest. No family knowledge of him. Is it possible that Stefania told the authorities that she was visiting her brother Michel, and then suddenly remembered she didn't have a brother Michel.
Jozefa, my grandmother married Roman Wasiewicz. Roman travelled to America with his Cousin Peter in 1907. He returned to Bircza to marry Jozefa.
According to the family, Piotr and other relatives travelled to America to work and bring money back home.
Regards,
Richard.
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re Kazimiera Szalajko,
i have found 3 possible matches on the 1920 US census each would need to be followed up to rule them out / in
this is if she married betwixt 1913 & 1920
1920 - Abington, Plymouth, Massachusetts
Kazimiera Gardulewicz
Spouse: John
Birth: abt 1895 - Russia;Poland
Arrival: 1913
they have a son Anthony b. Massachusetts
Kazimiera parents were born Russia / Poland like her
she is literate
John also came from Russia / Poland in 1913
John is working in a shoe factory and Kazimiera a weaver
1920 - Schenectady Ward 5, Schenectady, New York
Kazimiera Kwapinski
Spouse: Stanly
Birth: abt 1895 - Poland
Arrival: 1912
2 children (both boys) Stephen 7 and Kazimiera 5 b. NY
she Cannot read or write
Stanley also came to the US in 1912
1920 - Worcester Ward 5, Worcester, Massachusetts
Kazimiera Galgowski
Spouse: William
Birth: abt 1896 - Poland
Arrival: 1912
William is a wine drawer in a wine mill
she cannot read or wirte
William came to the US in 1913 but Kazimiera in 1912
i would suggest the top one looks more favourable
but like i say need to find marriages etc. or Anthonys birth cert.
Hi Toni,
I had alook at the three possibles for Kazimiera Szalajko and agree that the first is most likely. According to the arrival manifest, Kazimiera could read and write which would knock out number two and three. Also I have found a record for the arrival of Kazimiera Kwapinski and her husband Stanislaw to the USA in February 1913, so she is out.
Although I don't think it is Kazimiera Galgowski, I found a WW2 draft registration for her husband William showing his wife as Charlotte Galgowski. I suppose Charlotte would be the nearest equivalent to the Polish Kazimiera.
So now I am looking for any records for Charlotte Gardulewicz. The trouble with so many of these records is that they crop up once and there doesn't seem to be any continuity.
Regards,
Richard.
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i know that feeling
:)
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Hi,
I have recently decided to try and research my father's family who come from Poland, now Ukraine. One of my ancestors, Ludwik Sumislawski, emigrated to New York in 1911. He was going to his cousin, Maria Moskal, who was living at 117 Broad Str. NY. As a long shot, I googled 117 Broad Str. and to my surprise I got your post in this forum. Since then I have found 117 Broad Str in the 1910 census. The people living there were a minister, five teachers, a watchman and three domestics, all working for the church. All the teachers were called Mary, but none of them were Moskal or Techow. I wonder if this was some sort of association that helped immigrants gain entry into the US?
Since reading your post, I have had a little browse and decided to join the group. This is my first post.
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Welcome to Rootschat I am in US but don't have access to later censuses LizR
I have had alot of help and learned many techniques reading the posts
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Hi Jadziabut,
Welcome to the forum.
My own researches into 117 Broad Street came up with an article in the New York Times, July 18, 1909.
This shows that 117 Broad Street, was called St Joseph's House and appeared to be a 'boarding house' for immigrants to America. Run by the church, I suppose it was used as a stepping stone until the immigrant could contact family members or friends in the USA.
http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?_r=1&res=9501E6D6163DE132A2575BC1A9619C946897D6CF
The article starts with a headline 'Crabs led to thief capture' and then you should look at the next heading 'Man and Wife lost here', which mentions St Joseph's Home.
Regards,
Richard.
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Hi Richard,
Thank you for the information and the link. In my browsings I have come across a St Joseph's House, I think. I've now got to wrack my brain to remember where. :)
Jadzia
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I would not be surprised he if stayed in a boarding house for a short while once he landed in America.
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Access may vary based on the country where you're located, but a search of Google books shows a number of references to St. Joseph's Home for Polish Immigrants, which was apparently at that Broad St. location beginning in 1904.
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Hi Shelley,
Just had alook at the numerous references for St Joseph's Home on Google Books. Amazing what you can find if somebody points you in the right direction.
Reading some of the excerpts, its obvious that residence at the home was transitory, therefore of limited use when trawling for somebody across the census records.
Thanks
Richard.
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Kazimiera Szalajko, Stefania’s sister, born 1895 Bircza, Poland. Arrived in US 1913 (S.S. Kronprinzessin Cecile into New York), to visit her sister Stella Kruk, Hermann Street, 50, New York? No further trace of her. She did not return to Poland according to family, maybe married?
Hi Richard: Your thread caught my eye because a number of folks from my ancestral village emigrated to Yatesboro, Pennsylvania. Unfortunately, the ancestral village is in Italy, so I can't offer any relatives. But I know that part of Pennsylvania as well as the New Jersey/New York area.
I hunted up Kazimiera Szalajko's passenger manifest on the Ellis Island website. There is no Hermann St. in New York City. When I did a map search for it, I got Hermann St. in Carteret, New Jersey, which is only five or so miles south of Newark, New Jersey. I think that Stella Kruk was living in Carteret before she moved to Newark.
In Kazimiera's entry on the second page of the manifest, the destination seems to have been altered. I think Newark is written in large letters over New York, and in the state abbreviation to the left of New York, a large "J" seems to have been written over the "Y"--making it NJ instead of NY.
I've seen manifests where an immigration inspector crossed out a name and wrote something like "friend Maria Techow." That usually indicates that the inspectors knew the address and the person, in this case, Maria Techow, worked for the agency or company located there, i.e., St. Joseph's Home.
If you want to find any vital records on Stella Kruk or Kazimiera Szalajko, New Jersey is a tough place to do your hunting in. You can go to the New Jersey page of the USGenWeb project at http://www.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~njgenweb/research.html for more information.
Regards,
John :o :o :o
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Dear John,
Thank you for your comments and suggestions.
I hadn't spotted the word, which does look like Newark, above New York for final destination for Kazimiera.
I take your point about the entry for Stefania which says 'friend Maria Techow'.
It still seems very odd to have 'brother Michal Szalajko' crossed out. There has not been any mention of him within the family, but I don't think that's significant as I have come across several possible siblings etc. in the family who were never mentioned.
As you can see from the previous replies in this thread, I'm concenrating on Kazimiera Gardulewicz as the best possibility for Kazimiera Szalajko if she married. The next step would appear to be to trace any record for a possible marriage of Kazimiera to John Gardulewicz and a birth cert for their son Anthony born in Massachusetts.
Regards,
Richard.
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Hi Richard: I looked at the Massachusetts marriage records on the FamilySearch Pilot website, but found no record for Kazimiera Szalajko marrying there. The available records extend only to 1915, making finding anything a long shot anyway.
I don't know if you've seen the website Birzca Online (http://bircza.reproots.org/). A list there (pre-1941 "phone directory") has P. Szalajko and J. Szalajko working as shoemakers.
Since you know a fair amount about Stella Kruk, it might be fruitful to concentrate on searching on information and her children after 1930. The Newark (New Jersey) Public Library's reference section has city directories and telephone books from 1835 to 1964. Here's an e-mail address for the department: njreference@npl.org.
Added: The Social Security Death Index has CECYLIA SZALAJKO, born 1921, died 1994 in Somerville, New Jersey. Somerville is thirty-five miles west of Newark. Her Social Security number was issued in New Jersey, meaning she may have been born there.
Regards,
John :o :o :o
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Hi John,
Thanks for checking those marriage records. Looking at the age of Anthony Gardulewicz on the 1920 census, I assume the marriage of John and Kazimiera took place about 1916 or 17.
I have seen the Bircza Online site and in fact visited Bircza last summer. The old grave yard there, has the graves of Piotr and Marianna Szalajko, Kazimiera's parents and also Roman and Jozefa Wasiewicz, my grandparents. Jozefa was Kazimiera's sister.
Beyond this there appears to be little more information. There was some sort of 'dark secret' within the family, as a result of which there was never any discussion within the family about relatives who might have preceded the above mentioned.
I am hoping to make another visit this year to look at Parish Records as over the last year I have found a number of 'possible relatives' and I now have many more names to look for.
In the 1850's Bircza village was one third Polish, one third Ukranian and one third Jewish.
Our assumption is that there was a 'mixed marriage' which resulted in them being ostracised. Subsequent reading indicates that this would have been extremely rare, but as such if it occurred it certainly would have led to disgrace.
I agree that at the moment the best way forward would be to trace any living relatives of Kazimiera’s sister Stella Kruk to see if they know what happened to their aunt Kazimiera.
The 1930 census for Newark shows Stella and her husband John Kruk and three children Helen, William and Alexander. John was a butcher and I have found him on an online Trade Directory for Newark 1936. He apparently died the following year and I have found the business, in directories up to 1943, as a Retail Meat Shop owned by Stella. Stella kept in touch by letter with relatives in Poland up to about 1960, then another family disagreement led to a cessation of contact. The only other record I have is an entry in a 1959 Portsmouth Massachusetts directory for Mary D. Kruk, widow of Alexander Kruk .
I have no idea who Cecylia Szalajko could be or whether she was related. One more name to add to the list.
Regards,
Richard.
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Hi Richard: The Mary Kruk who died in Portsmouth, died in Portsmouth, New Hampshire, as there is no Portsmouth, Massachusetts. The Social Security Death Index has this Mary Kruk born Apr. 23 1884, died Aug 1975. Wouldn't her birth date make this Mary too old to be the wife of Alexander Kruk, who was a child in the 1930s, when Mary was in her 40s? This Mary Kruk's Social Security number was issued in New Hampshire.
The Social Security Death Index has Walter Winiarski born Jun 24 1909, died 1964, last residence unspecified. His Social Security number was issued in New York.
Regards,
John :o :o :o
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Hi John,
I had another look at the record:
http://search.ancestry.co.uk/Browse/view.aspx?dbid=8779&path=Portsmouth.1959.K.7
which came from Ancestry.com Massachusetts City Directories list. Although it's on that list, I see the addresses refer to Potrsmouth, New Hampshire. So that looks like a dead end.
I have found another record for Helen B. Kruk. SSN 047-03-3456 Birth date 10 April 1912 and death date 18 August 1991. On the 1930 census Stella Kruk's daughter Helen is given as 1914. Later Newark directories list her as Helen B. Kruk, so presumably the right person.
Could you advise me how to find the place of issue of a SSN.
If this is the right person then she remained unmarried and probably a dead end as far as finding living relatives.
How does one find SSN's for her two brothers, William and Alexander?
As regards Walter Winiarski, I have a ships manifest for SS Main Dec 17 1905 showing the arrival of Karolina Winiarska and son Waclaw who I presume changed his name to Walter, Born 1903 in Poland.
The next reference I have for him is in the Niagara Falls Gazette March 4th 1929 which has an obituary for his father Julian Winiarski and mentions that Walter comes from Miami, Arizona.
So this does not fit the Walter that you found.
Regards
Richard.
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The Social Security Death Index is available for free on www.rootsweb.com. You can see the listing for Helen there, which states that her Social Security number was issued in Connecticut. The Social Security Death Index has, for the most part, deaths from 1964 to the present and is the main place where you're going to find Social Security numbers. (I've seen the numbers listed sometimes on death certificates, but that would vary by state.)
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Added: Shelly types quicker than I do! ;)
Hi Richard: Hope this answers your question. I use the SSDI on Rootsweb, which is at http://ssdi.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/ssdi.cgi
There is also a version on FamilySearch.org (at the bottom of the main menu), but it does not seem to have middle initials.
On Rootsweb, you can search by place of issue by clicking Advanced Search on the search page, then enter a name and use the scroll down Issue menu, just above the Submit button, to limit the search to a particular state.
The place of issue of a person's Social Security number is given in the last column of the entry on the Social Security Death Index. So in Helen B. Kruk's case, it would be Connecticut
HELEN B KRUK 10 Apr 1912 18 Aug 1991 (not specified) (none specified) 047-03-3456 Connecticut
One thing to bear in mind about the SSDI: It mainly covers deaths that occurred after 1962. If someone died before 1962, he or she is likely (but not definitely) not to be in the SSDI.
From the Rootsweb SSDI. Three entries for Alexander Kruk:
The V in the first entry means that the death was verified by a family member. Bold face items explain the entries.
ALEXANDER KRUK 24 Oct 1915 26 Aug 2000 (V) Place of death: 11003 (Elmont, Nassau, NY) Place of last benefit: (none specified) 088-05-4258 Issued in New York
ALEXANDER KRUK 17 Dec 1889 Jul 1965 Place of death: (New York State?) Place of last benefit: (none specified) 108-07-7768 Issued in New York
ALEXANDER H KRUK 21 Nov 1918 25 Jan 1996 Place of death: 18508 (Scranton, Lackawanna, PA) Place of last benefit: (none specified) 170-09-0697 Issued in Pennsylvania
There were five entries for William Kruk.
WILLIAM P KRUK 17 Dec 1919 11 Feb 2005 (V) Place of death: 11040 (New Hyde Park, Nassau, NY) b]Place of last benefit: (none specified) 065-16-1139 New York
Elmont and New Hyde Park, NY are suburbs of New York City on Long Island. They are a few miles apart (which is why I added William Kruk. Nassau County borders the New York borough of Queens.
I would be very careful in assuming that any of these are your folks. A search for Kruk in the SSDI returns 155 entries where the Social Security number was issued in New York State. There were 58 Kruks in a New Jersey search.
Regards,
John :o :o :o
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I'm afraid that Helen on the SSDI is not yours, as the Connecticut Death index has Helen B. Kruk with the same birth & death dates who was a widow and her maiden name was Jurzcak.
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Hi Shelley,
Thanks for your prompt replies. I thought I had found the correct Helen Kruk having found her middle name started with B.
Obviously not. Still I was working on the principle that she was unmarried and therefore an unlikely source for further ancestors.
Regards,
Richard.
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Hi John,
I'll take a look at all the info from the SSDI and see if I can connect it up to our William and Alexander Kruk.
I shall have to try looking for any obituries as this might throw some light on possible offspring.
The 1938 Newark Directory shows Stella Kruk, Widow, Joseph Kruk who was her late husband's brother, William S. Kruk, and Helen B. Kruk. I assumed Helen was Stella's daughter but from what Shelley has posted, she could be Joseph's wife, (except the Portsmouth Directory says widow of Alexander - very confusing). I assume that Alexander had left home by then, possibly got married while William was still at home unmarried.
There is also a Thomas Kruk (wife Sophie) at this address - no idea who these people could be.
Richard.
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I have found the correct record in SSDI for Walter Winiarski.
The SSDI gives the following information.
Walter Winiarski b. 19 sep 1903. Died Oct 1981. Last residence Kellogg, Shoshone, Idaho.
SSN 526-05-7377 issued Arizona.
Checking cemetary records for Shoshone County I found the following record:
http://www.interment.net/data/us/id/shoshone/greenwood/greenwood_uz.htm
which lists the burials of Walter Winiarski in 1881 and his wife Alice D. in 1997.
They are survived by their son (*).
Now it's a case of trying to figure out how to trace (*).
Richard
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I have found the correct record in SSDI for Walter Winiarski.
The SSDI gives the following information.
Walter Winiarski b. 19 sep 1903. Died Oct 1981. Last residence Kellogg, Shoshone, Idaho.
SSN 526-05-7377 issued Arizona.
Checking cemetary records for Shoshone County I found the following record:
http://www.interment.net/data/us/id/shoshone/greenwood/greenwood_uz.htm
which lists the burials of Walter Winiarski in 1881 and his wife Alice D. in 1997.
They are survived by their son (*).
Now it's a case of trying to figure out how to trace (*).
Richard
Hi Richard: I completely missed the correct Walter Winarski in the SSDI. I thought Miami, Arizona was an error and discounted it. Then I read your post today and went found out that there actually is a Miami, Arizona. So after five minutes of banging the keyboard and visiting a couple of websites, I can tell you that ...
... I think I know who (*) is. I'll send you a personal message.
Regards,
John :o :o
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Hi John,
Thanks for all your work. I'll check out the names you have given me for Walter's offspring.
Between your information and the details from the associated thread:
http://www.rootschat.com/forum/index.php?topic=426401.new;topicseen
I have found just about everything I need.
I applied for a birth cert for one of Julian Winiarski's daughters to see if I could get Caroline's maiden name to prove our family connection. I am still waiting for this.
Thanks,
Richard.
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Red Clover,I stumbled onto this by looking for something on my ancestry:my name is Michael Gawerecki. My Dad was Joseph Gawerecki.He told me that his Uncle lived in the Rochester NY area.He visited there once.His dad Henry was a cement finisher.On the internet,Googleing in 'Polish" i found that a Janus Gawerecki fought and died in the 'Partition wars' in Poland around 1772-you may email me if you like (*)
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Hi, thanks for the information. I will send you a personnal message.
Richard.
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Hi,
http://www.fultonhistory.com/Fulton.html
Try that site. There are over 15 million old newspaper pages available. I just searched Winiarski and got 2432 hits. Most of them for the Niagara Falls Gazette. There might be some useful information.
Regards,
Fred
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Hi Fred,
Just realised I forgot to thank you for the link to 'fulton history'.
I'd seen the site before but had forgotten about it. I've had another look and picked up some interesting background material on the younger members of the family but nothing new on Julian Winiarski or his wife Caroline (Karolina).
Thanks.
Richard.
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Hi My husband's Grandma's name is Mary Moskal... She came to the U.S.A From Poland... Her Father is Stanislaw Moskal and her Mother is Apolonia Gorczyka... Mary was married to Jozef (Joseph) Kubit...Let me know if you think this might be the Mary Moskal that you are searching for... =) :)
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Hi.
It's a while since I looked at this thread and the names you mentioned don't ring a bell. Are you sure you have posted on the right thread.
Richard.
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I think the reference is to the person who posted reply #20 and had a Moskal going to the same address mentioned in this thread.
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I see. Thanks for sorting that out.
Richard.
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Hi... So you are a grand daughter of Mary Moskal? I am married to Allan M. Kubit who is a grandson to Mary Moskal... His Grandfather Jozef married Mary Moskal... I'd love if you have a Kubit / Moskal Tree if you could share the family history with me... I would be happy to share any information I have with you also.. esp. recent history family members...Let me know Thanks so much
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You may want to try sending a personal message to jadziabut, who was the person who mentioned that his/her ancestor had a cousin named Maria Moskal. Unfortunately, s/he hasn't been active on this site since 2010.